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Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
Ok, you're working really hard on a solution and your effort is very much appreciated. Thank you for that.
Let's try the text mode client. Go to your host system and enter the following commands:
cd /usr/local/citadel
./citadel
This will start the console mode client. Log in as an administrator. It will probably start showing you messages in the Lobby. You can hit S for "Stop" and you will get the room prompt (Lobby>).
The commands you're interested in now are "<.A>dmin <U>ser <E>dit" and probably "<.A>dmin <U>ser <D>elete". Type the "." (period) and then the first letter of each command (A, U, etc). At any point you can hit the "?" (question mark) to show all of the available subcommands at that level.
This is probably easier than playing around with AGUP and ASUP. The client will send those commands to the server for you.
Hint: if you delete a user, it actually only sets their access level to 0 (Deleted) and the actual deletion will be performed when the auto-purger runs.
So go ahead and try that. If these commands verify that the user really does exist, and you're able to delete that account, but the email address remains unavailable, say so here and we'll figure out whether there's an actual software problem that needs to be coded around.
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
This is hands-down the best email server and networking server for groups and small businesses. i use this daily for my community where we have a support room that support@example.com goes to, all server logs that need looking at go to admin@example.com which is an alias for room_Admin@example.com and doing that is so insanely useful and also very unique. after extensively testing out which servers i would want to use personally, i knew this was the one. so switching just because of an issue isn't a problem.. but conversely, i figure the harder the problem, the more you learn. and i got my buddies who run communities of their own to try it too. i figure if i learn more, i can help out more. so in honesty, thank YOU for being willing to help me.
back to the issue though, running the command gave me the error "no citadel.rc" so i made one and now its saying the server is to old for MSG4. so i imagine i should update and i figure (but want to ask first to make sure its ok because it doesn't really flat out say it on the documentation) but since i installed with the script, i should be able to run it again and have it update everything, right? after updating i'll see if the issue persists then try those commands again
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
If you like it now, wait'll you see the new web interface we're building.
It's way more modern and will blow your feathers off. :)
Yes, please do run the upgrade. Take a full backup first, of course. Then try the command again. I'll check out one of my development systems and see if we can figure out where that MSG4 error is coming from, but I do recall we fixed something like that not too long ago. Can you tell us what version you're running?
Does citadel have a 64-bit ARM image?
Subject: Re: Installing citadel on raspberry pi 4 8GB
Does citadel have a 64-bit ARM image?
Citadel will run just fine on 64-bit ARM but you have to build it yourself using Easy Install.
I assume you're talking about the container version, which we currently build using a cross compiler (and occasionally test on a real Pi). The cross compiler crashes when we try 64-bit ARM and I don't know why. Hopefully this will get worked out in some future version of the development kit and we'll add ARM 64 to the build.
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
When is the new web interface expected to be released? Any previews?
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
So there went my Saturday with nothing to show for it :)
We'll get a preview running at some point.
I noticed that large quantities of spam emails were going though port 587 of my Citadel server. I have the IP address of the spammer. How do I find out which of my users (if any) this IP address corresponds to. I have a log file in the database (under /usr/local/citadel/data), but it is spectacularly unhelpful. In general, how can I determine how many emails each particular user has sent and received? Is there a way to limit the number of emails that each user can send (say, to 500)? Any ideas about how to prevent this from happening again in the future?
I noticed that large quantities of spam emails were going though port 587 of my Citadel server. I have the IP address of the spammer. How do I find out which of my users (if any) this IP address corresponds to. I have a log file in the database (under /usr/local/citadel/data), but it is spectacularly unhelpful. In general, how can I determine how many emails each particular user has sent and received? Is there a way to limit the number of emails that each user can send (say, to 500)? Any ideas about how to prevent this from happening again in the future?
The "log files" in a database refer to database journaling, not system logs, so that's definitely not the place to look.
Unfortunately there is no setting in Citadel which would limit the number of emails that a user can send. They're either allowed or not allowed. You could look at the userlist though, and find a user with a particularly outrageously high message count. That's problably the one. Best practice, however, would dictate that you have all your users change their passwords and make sure they're good passwords.
If you really want to rate-limit incoming SMTP connections from a single IP address, you can do that from the operating system's own firewall. For example, if you are running on Linux you can rate-limit the port using iptables.
Here's an example I found on the internet:
[ https://blog.programster.org/rate-limit-requests-with-iptables ]
Subject: i just wanted to let you know i'm still here
i've still got the issue i had with the user and havent been able to try the fix you told me yet due to updating. i backed it up so i could just revert if things don't go well.. and i've not been able to successfully update yet. it seems to go ok but when it goes to "connecting to citadel server" the green [**----------------] loading bar disappears and it just sits there while the website gives me a 503 error. not quite sure what i should check.
Thank you for the information about rate limiting posts using IP tables.
None of my users has more than a handful of messages shown on the administrator's "Edit user account" page. Also, I have now unchecked the "Permission to send Internet mail" box for all of my users, but apparently emails are still being sent--at least, that is how I am interpreting what I am seeing in my Linux syslog file (repeated every 2 seconds):
Nov 5 05:07:45 superman citserver[527]: citserver[527]: context: session (SMTP-MSA) started from ****removed**** (****removed****) uid=-1
Nov 5 05:07:45 superman citserver[527]: context: session (SMTP-MSA) started from ****removed**** (****removed****) uid=-1
Nov 5 05:07:49 superman citserver[527]: citserver[527]: context: [ 80]SRV[SMTP-MSA] Session ended.
Nov 5 05:07:49 superman citserver[527]: context: [ 80]SRV[SMTP-MSA] Session ended.
Nov 5 05:07:49 superman citserver[527]: citserver[527]: context: [ 81]SRV[SMTP-MSA] Session ended.
Nov 5 05:07:49 superman citserver[527]: context: [ 81]SRV[SMTP-MSA] Session ended.
The lights on the server and router were also flashing rapidly, which indicate a large amount of traffic. Is it possible that I am misinterpreting what I am seeing in the syslog file? Could a user's computer only be making a connection every 2 seconds but not sending anything? I am not seeing any outgoing emails in my Linux mail.log log file, only incoming ones, so I am not sure whether outgoing emails are actually being sent. Enabling journaling under the "Indexing/Journaling" and checking the boxes "Enable full text index" and "Perform journaling of email messages" does not seem to do anything other than adding some entries to the syslog file, but I may just not know where to look for whatever journal files are produced by those settings.
Also, I could not find any useful information about the difference between a "local user" and a "network user". Does it have anything to do with the ability of a user to send or receive email to the WAN, verses limiting it to the LAN?
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
it took a while for me to update but i finally figured out how to rebuild the database and all that. so its updated now but when i go into the console with that command it allows me to login and shows me lobby messages, i get to the lobby prompt but it freezes, not allowing any input. it doesn't seem to be taking up any cpu or anything. looking into that issue now, but its running pretty well with the updates and all. no issues and everything's intact after rebuilding the database. going to dig around for logs and see why it would just hang up without doing or saying anything.
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I have a small question where can I set the maximum size for the attachment of incoming emails.
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix Problem
Thanks for trying :). Can't wait to see what you folks have dreamed up :)
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Mon Oct 31 2022 09:30:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: View Old Names To Fix ProblemFunny you mention that. When you asked for a preview I attempted to set one up here on our production system. It didn't work right, so I said ok, let's finally upgrade my system to 64-bit which I've been putting off for a few years now. That was going to take too much time once I kicked off the migration.
So there went my Saturday with nothing to show for it :)
We'll get a preview running at some point.
Thanks for trying :). Can't wait to see what you folks have dreamed up :)
Oh, and for anyone trying out the nightly builds of WebCit-NG [ https://uncensored.citadel.org:4443 ]
Here are some guidelines:
1. DO NOT REPORT BUGS. It's unfinished. We know it has bugs.
2. Don't worry about breaking it. You can't hurt the site by playing around with the demo. Worst that happens is you break the demo but the production site keeps running, and I don't care about that.
3. Don't bother trying to see if you can subvert the site's security through some half-completed section of the web interface. That can't be done because all access controls still live inside the Citadel Server, which is hardened and mature.
That having been said ... enjoy the preview of what has been built so far.
It is very much "under construction" but you should be able to see where we're going with it. The style is very modern, the underpinnings are totally REST and DAV to allow greater interoperability with third-party software, and the UI approach is to organize the system as a set of applications (mail, forums, calendar, etc.) instead of as an overgrown BBS that can also do other things.
For web design geeks: everything is HTML5+CSS+DOM+XHR, straight to the browser, no third-party frameworks. We tried a couple of different frameworks (Bootstrap and W3CSS) and they made things look nice out-of-the-box, but ended up being restrictive when we tried to do anything fancy. Modern browser features like Grid and Flexbox make this stuff easy.
Share And Enjoy!
Good evening,
Gmail is rejecting my email, with an error that states:
kd8sky@gmail.com: 550 (550-5.7.1 [208.180.142.90] This message is not RFC 5322 compliant, the issue is: )
Ive run through the DNS entries for the spf, dmarc, they‘ve both been validated, but my email will get rejected outright with the above entry or at times a reply to an email from gmail will end up in the spam box on my gmail account.
Any suggestions on the subject would be appreciated
Thanks - great product btw.
Subject: An idiot with a raspberry pi - Connection refusednetst
Hi,
I have tried to install citadel using the info here https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-email-server/
it all appeared to work, I can log in to the web interface and configure stuff.
However when I try and configure an email client it can not connect.
I tried to telnet to port 25 from a terminal on the server and get this
Trying 192.168.1.145...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
netstat -lnp does not list any of the ports as listening
sudo netstat -lnp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 192.168.1.145:5222 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2077/citserver
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5900 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 565/vncserver-x11-c
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2306/cupsd
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:783 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 621/perl
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22224 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 569/sshd: /usr/sbin
tcp6 0 0 :::5900 :::* LISTEN 565/vncserver-x11-c
tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* LISTEN 2306/cupsd
tcp6 0 0 :::443 :::* LISTEN 466/webcit
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 465/webcit
tcp6 0 0 ::1:783 :::* LISTEN 621/perl
tcp6 0 0 :::22224 :::* LISTEN 569/sshd: /usr/sbin
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* 886/dhcpcd
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* 2307/cups-browsed
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5353 0.0.0.0:* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:51466 0.0.0.0:* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp6 0 0 :::33702 :::* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp6 0 0 :::5353 :::* 417/avahi-daemon: r
raw6 0 0 :::58 :::* 7 886/dhcpcd
i cant seem to find any google help on this issue, i'm sure it a simple issue, but have been butting my head against it all night!
Thanks in advance
Toby
Subject: RE: [Citadel Support] An idiot with a raspberry pi - Connection refusednetst
Is your firewall enabled?
I am not sure do you have the ufw command? For the firewall? If you try ufw status what do you get?
From: TobyWiddows <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 4:29 PM
Subject: [Citadel Support] An idiot with a raspberry pi - Connection refusednetst
Hi,
I have tried to install citadel using the info here https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-email-server/
it all appeared to work, I can log in to the web interface and configure stuff.
However when I try and configure an email client it can not connect.
I tried to telnet to port 25 from a terminal on the server and get this
Trying 192.168.1.145...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
I get this for all the ports for smtp/imp/pop3
netstat -lnp does not list any of the ports as listening
sudo netstat -lnp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 192.168.1.145:5222 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2077/citserver
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5900 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 565/vncserver-x11-c
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2306/cupsd
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:783 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 621/perl
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22224 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 569/sshd: /usr/sbin
tcp6 0 0 :::5900 :::* LISTEN 565/vncserver-x11-c
tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* LISTEN 2306/cupsd
tcp6 0 0 :::443 :::* LISTEN 466/webcit
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 465/webcit
tcp6 0 0 ::1:783 :::* LISTEN 621/perl
tcp6 0 0 :::22224 :::* LISTEN 569/sshd: /usr/sbin
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* 886/dhcpcd
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* 2307/cups-browsed
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5353 0.0.0.0:* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:51466 0.0.0.0:* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp6 0 0 :::33702 :::* 417/avahi-daemon: r
udp6 0 0 :::5353 :::* 417/avahi-daemon: r
raw6 0 0 :::58 :::* 7 886/dhcpcd
i cant seem to find any google help on this issue, i'm sure it a simple issue, but have been butting my head against it all night!
Thanks in advance
Toby