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[#] Sun Jun 19 2022 09:13:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: can I use my own logo and branding?

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can I use my own logo and branding?

You can set the site logo in Citadel and it'll display in the corner and remain there. If you want more than that, go through /usr/local/webcit/static/ and replace whatever you want. Maybe keep a tarball of the files you modified so you can drop them back in whenever you upgrade.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2022 00:24:50 EDT from sciens

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Sun Jun 19 2022 09:11:19 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Awesome! It was SELinux doing its thing. I set it to permissive and
everything works great. Whatever bug I was hitting before with LDAP
is now gone too! Thanks for the awesome alternative to corporate

Ooooh, that's great! I've never seen any use for SELinux other than making stuff not work correctly :)

This might also be good advice for the other person above these messages who had trouble on RHEL. I don't know, maybe it'll work there too.

 

I am very excited to finally not use my customer-facing product (Virtualmin) for email.

Perchance is there a good calendar app or syncer that would  sync up to Citadel? I expected Google Calendar to do this but it wont run with authentication which I find VERY odd.



[#] Mon Jun 20 2022 13:16:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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There is some amount of DAV support in Citadel's calendar. You can definitely do the "sync the entire calendar" type operations, and some software might work with syncing individual objects, but it is not a full CalDAV implementation, as it was designed to work with GroupDAV clients.

WebCit-NG will have full CalDAV and CardDAV support, and if you feel like building it from source and running it on a different port you might have some success with it. In particular I was able to get the Thunderbird calendar working 100% with Citadel using the unfinished WebCit-NG code.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2022 14:42:11 EDT from ajmc

Subject: Trash folders

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I have a working Citadel server, but now that I have a few users set up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them!  Thankfully I've just started using this particular Citadel server and it's only for family members but still, this can't be right surely?  How can I fix this so that everyone has their own private trash folders?



[#] Tue Jun 21 2022 06:11:26 EDT from QuinTeknoLife

Subject: crosscompile for RasPi (2B+) ?

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Since compiling on the actual Pi took forever the previous time, I´d like to crosscompile using my x64 (Ubuntu 22.04LTS) machine. Is this a viable option? I assume simply running the script would just compile and set-up Citadel on my x64 machine instead of compiling targeting the Pi, right?



[#] Tue Jun 21 2022 08:58:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Trash folders

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up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind
of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them! 

That's definitely not the normal behavior. Did someone create a global room called "Trash"? I'd be willing to believe that this could override the normal behavior with some clients (and if we find out this is the case, let us know and we'll code around it).

[#] Tue Jun 21 2022 08:59:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: crosscompile for RasPi (2B+) ?

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like to crosscompile using my x64 (Ubuntu 22.04LTS) machine. Is this
a viable option? I assume simply running the script would just

It ought to work, but I couldn't tell you how to do it.

If you don't want to compile ... consider running the Docker container. It's already built for you.

[#] Tue Jun 21 2022 12:37:29 EDT from ajmc

Subject: Re: Trash folders

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Tue Jun 21 2022 08:58:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Trash folders
up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind
of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them! 

That's definitely not the normal behavior. Did someone create a global room called "Trash"? I'd be willing to believe that this could override the normal behavior with some clients (and if we find out this is the case, let us know and we'll code around it).

Yes, that appears to be what happened (though obviously not deliberately, could it have somehow been created by an IMAP client?)  Either way, I deleted the "Trash" and "Trashcan" from the "Main Floor" and it seems OK now.



[#] Mon Jun 27 2022 17:39:02 EDT from wooper

Subject: Segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster

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Hello Volks sorry need help.

I am getting segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster:

Thx in advance

Log file:

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584447] show_signal_msg: 78 callbacks suppressed

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584456] citserver[3867]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584483] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.643175] citserver[3868]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.643207] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.702374] citserver[3869]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.702406] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.761006] citserver[3870]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]

 

Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.761036] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00

 

 

Manual start

root@mygate:~# citserver -x 9

citserver[32092]:  

citserver[32092]:  

citserver[32092]: *** Citadel server engine ***

citserver[32092]: Version 917 (build b47178f) ***

citserver[32092]: Copyright (C) 1987-2018 by the Citadel development team.

citserver[32092]:  

citserver[32092]: This program is open source software: you can redistribute it and/or

citserver[32092]: modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 3.

citserver[32092]:  

citserver[32092]: This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,

citserver[32092]: but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of

citserver[32092]: MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the

citserver[32092]: GNU General Public License for more details.

citserver[32092]:  

citserver[32092]: libcitadel(unnumbered)

citserver[32092]: main: creating lockfile

citserver[32092]: extensions: registered server command STLS (Start SSL/TLS session)

citserver[32092]: extensions: registered server command GTLS (Get SSL/TLS session status)

citserver[32092]: extensions: registered a new session function (type 0 Priority 30010)

citserver[32092]: master_startup() started

citserver[32092]: Checking directory access

citserver[32092]: Opening databases

citserver[32092]: db: open_databases() starting

citserver[32092]: db: Compiled libdb: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September  9, 2013)

citserver[32092]: db:   Linked libdb: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September  9, 2013)

citserver[32092]: db:    Linked zlib: 1.2.11

citserver[32092]: db: Setting up DB environment

citserver[32092]: db: dbenv->open(dbenv, /var/lib/citadel/data/, 75043, 0)

citserver[32092]: db: BDB2526 Finding last valid log LSN: file: 424695 offset 2551866

citserver[32092]: db: BDB1518 Recovery complete at Mon Jun 27 23:25:09 2022

citserver[32092]: db: BDB1519 Maximum transaction ID 0 recovery checkpoint [424695][2550648]

citserver[32092]: db: mounting databases

 

citserver[32092]: Initializing configuration system

 


[#] Mon Jun 27 2022 21:09:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster

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You are running a very old Citadel, and it is not likely that the Debian repos will contain any further updates. You should probably switch to either the Docker version or the Easy Install version. It runs really great on Debian as long as you're not using the outdated Citadel in the repos.

[#] Tue Jun 28 2022 01:41:42 EDT from wooper

Subject: Re: Segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster

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Thanks

I thought the version of the repo is relativ up to date.

I will try it.

 



[#] Wed Jun 29 2022 16:28:21 EDT from userT

Subject: Citadel and groupware usage

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Hello.
It's been a while since I was last here...

I just wanted to ask something out of curiosity.
At office they're considering using a groupware software. They're being eye-candy at options such as eGroupware or Horde. At least for my taste, eGroupware does seem to have almost everything they want -except chat-, but is still overkill; Horde is simply ugly.

I'd like to try suggesting Citadel certainly, but I fear they won't like it at least in its current state.

So, just hypothetical question, when webcit-ng reaches a usable stage -ok, if it ever does-, do you think it could be suitable enough for groupware-like "enterprise" usage?
Or am I already talking about the dark side and shouldn't be asking this?

Thanks beforehand for your attention.



[#] Thu Jun 30 2022 13:26:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel and groupware usage

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Development has ended on WebCit "classic" and all effort is going into WebCit-NG.
It is intended to have a more modern user interface and hopefully the people looking for something a bit more ... conventional? ... will like it.

That having been said, only the Forums (message boards) module has been completed, and we still have to implement Email, Calendar, Contacts, Blogs, and Wikis.
I can't tell you when it's going to be completed, and I realize that it is "perpetually in a state of almost there" but it's being actively developed.

And you're right -- they probably won't like it in its current state. WebCit "classic" was a mapping of the Citadel BBS "rooms" model onto a web browser.
After a couple of decades we've finally realized that this isn't really optimal for most sites and it's probably holding back adoption of the Citadel system.
Therefore, the rooms model will strictly become the domain of the text-based BBS client (and possibly a minimalist, non-javascript, non-dynamic web client that looks like the text client). The user interface of WebCit-NG will look more like those "my cloud" programs that have different modules for different applications.

Again, I regret that it's taking so long, but we're taking the time to make it an excellent quality experience.

[#] Mon Jul 11 2022 01:06:13 EDT from MarisaG

Subject: Login/Logout images in webcit?

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I'm trying to get these working but when I specify a filename I get a message about "home" not being defined and no changes appear. Any suggestions and the sizes of images I should use?



[#] Mon Jul 11 2022 01:12:18 EDT from MarisaG

Subject: Login openid badges?

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How do I set up the openid badges on the webcit login form?



[#] Wed Jul 13 2022 15:00:00 EDT from Smartninja365

Subject: What are the system requirments for citadel?

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Also will Ubuntu work?, what are your recommended Os's i Use?



[#] Thu Jul 14 2022 09:03:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Login openid badges?

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How do I set up the openid badges on the webcit login form?

If your system is set up for open registration (self service creation of new users) the badges will activate. Most of those providers are getting hostile to OpenID so don't expect it to work for long, though. We'll probably go to SAML in a future release.

[#] Thu Jul 14 2022 09:04:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: What are the system requirments for citadel?

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Also will Ubuntu work?, what are your recommended Os's i Use?

Ubuntu will work just fine. We build on Debian so anything in that family will be "native". And if you're using the Docker version then it'll bring its own libraries so it really doesn't matter.

[#] Mon Jul 18 2022 04:01:39 EDT from frank.obrienstudiofob.com

Subject: Screwed-up install

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Greetings everyone.

I installed and have been running Citadel for almost 12 months now - running on Ubuntu 20.04-LTS.

Today we have really serious winds which took out power 3 times. Now since that when I get new mail it arrives in the inbox, however only the list of mail received

and not the message itself.

 

I have done the database recovery thing and it seemed to complete ok ie. no error messages.

I seem to have lost all of this years mail.

Other specific mail boxes such as archive etc seem to be ok.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Cheers and thanks

Frank

 



[#] Mon Jul 18 2022 04:31:12 EDT from frank.obrienstudiofob.com

Subject: Screwed up install - addendum

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Ok,

 

So the message reading pane does not show for any currently received message,

not sure where I could read the message directly on ubuntu to see if its actually there or not.

 

hope you can help

Cheers

Frank

 



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