When I set this Citadel server up a few years ago I used a set of
migrate commands that dumped the database as XML and then imported
the XML,
does anyone know how I can find those commands?
I also recall that because of the size of the database, and the
slowness of the servers I had to set a timeout parameter otherwise
the actions failed,
The program is called "ctdlmigrate" and you run it on the *receiving* system.
And I have good news: this program was substantially re-engineered last year and it is far more performant and reliable than it used to be. We removed the troublesome SSH transport and replaced it with a direct Citadel-to-Citadel connection.
Here's a documentation page showing the instructions, including a pretty screenshot!
[ https://www.citadel.org/how_do_i_move_citadel_to_another_host.html ]
When I set this Citadel server up a few years ago I used a set of
migrate commands that dumped the database as XML and then imported
the XML,
does anyone know how I can find those commands?
I also recall that because of the size of the database, and the
slowness of the servers I had to set a timeout parameter otherwise
the actions failed,
The program is called "ctdlmigrate" and you run it on the *receiving* system.
And I have good news: this program was substantially re-engineered last year and it is far more performant and reliable than it used to be. We removed the troublesome SSH transport and replaced it with a direct Citadel-to-Citadel connection.
Here's a documentation page showing the instructions, including a pretty screenshot!
[ https://www.citadel.org/how_do_i_move_citadel_to_another_host.html]Thanks for this, however I have an older version of the server running (929), and the documents suggest that the sending and receiving servers should be the same version. Also on a different note I have some Thunderbird users who have accessed the Citade server as a IMAP server, they ran compact which seemed to delete messages on the citadel server, have these messages really been deleted or are they still i the database somewhere, and can they be recovered?
RgdsKim
Hello all!
I got Citadel working with my IPA server for LDAP auth. Now for email.
It appears Citadel did not install any email services.
netstat -lnp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1054/sshd
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 64724/webcit
tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 1054/sshd
tcp6 0 0 :::443 :::* LISTEN 64746/webcit
tcp6 0 0 :::5222 :::* LISTEN 65029/citserver
raw6 0 0 :::58 :::* 7 1039/NetworkManager
raw6 0 0 :::58 :::* 7 1039/NetworkManager
Active UNIX domain sockets (only servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node PID/Program name Path
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 61547 6367/sssd_nss /var/lib/sss/pipes/nss
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 25936 991/irqbalance @irqbalance991.sock
unix 2 [ ACC ] SEQPACKET LISTENING 15668 1/systemd /run/udev/control
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 15680 1/systemd /run/lvm/lvmpolld.socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] SEQPACKET LISTENING 15689 1/systemd /run/systemd/coredump
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 41304 6228/systemd /run/user/0/systemd/private
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 41312 6228/systemd /run/user/0/bus
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 64148 6364/sssd /var/lib/sss/pipes/private/sbus-monitor
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 64747 6366/sssd_be /var/lib/sss/pipes/private/sbus-dp_implicit_files.6366
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 13717 1/systemd /run/systemd/journal/stdout
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 15286 1/systemd /run/systemd/private
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 278834 65029/citserver citadel.socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 278835 65029/citserver citadel-admin.socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 278846 65029/citserver lmtp.socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 278847 65029/citserver lmtp-unfiltered.socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 41693 1/systemd /var/run/.heim_org.h5l.kcm-socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 16355 1/systemd /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
And the settings in site settings dont appear to point to a server or service on the local system.
Do I need to install Dovecot/Postfix to complete the email solution?
Someone smarter than me about the inner workings will reply soon i'm sure, but no you dont need to install a mail service as email is integrated.
First of all, thanks for your response. I had not seen it till after
trying to install again and got back the same error indicated in
previous message. So I followed your instructions and this is what I
got back. I also checked the status of citadel service which
indicated that it failed to start as you can see.
Hmm. I am unable to reproduce this error. If you are running a Citadel built from source code (that includes Easy Install), perhaps you might consider running the Docker version? It's pre-built and runs wherever containers can run, and can't be foiled by the little differences between Linux distributions.
Sat Jun 18 2022 04:39:31 PM EDT from IGnatius T FoobarIf citserver failed to bind ports it will tell you in its log. I see that you have citserver answering on port 5222, which is the only port >=1024 that it uses. This suggests to me that you did not start citserver as root and therefore it could not bind to any of the low numbered ports.
Awesome! It was SELinux doing its thing. I set it to permissive and everything works great. Whatever bug I was hitting before with LDAP is now gone too! Thanks for the awesome alternative to corporate email!
Awesome! It was SELinux doing its thing. I set it to permissive and
everything works great. Whatever bug I was hitting before with LDAP
is now gone too! Thanks for the awesome alternative to corporate
Ooooh, that's great! I've never seen any use for SELinux other than making stuff not work correctly :)
This might also be good advice for the other person above these messages who had trouble on RHEL. I don't know, maybe it'll work there too.
Subject: Re: can I use my own logo and branding?
can I use my own logo and branding?
You can set the site logo in Citadel and it'll display in the corner and remain there. If you want more than that, go through /usr/local/webcit/static/ and replace whatever you want. Maybe keep a tarball of the files you modified so you can drop them back in whenever you upgrade.
Sun Jun 19 2022 09:11:19 AM EDT from IGnatius T FoobarAwesome! It was SELinux doing its thing. I set it to permissive and
everything works great. Whatever bug I was hitting before with LDAP
is now gone too! Thanks for the awesome alternative to corporate
Ooooh, that's great! I've never seen any use for SELinux other than making stuff not work correctly :)
This might also be good advice for the other person above these messages who had trouble on RHEL. I don't know, maybe it'll work there too.
I am very excited to finally not use my customer-facing product (Virtualmin) for email.
Perchance is there a good calendar app or syncer that would sync up to Citadel? I expected Google Calendar to do this but it wont run with authentication which I find VERY odd.
WebCit-NG will have full CalDAV and CardDAV support, and if you feel like building it from source and running it on a different port you might have some success with it. In particular I was able to get the Thunderbird calendar working 100% with Citadel using the unfinished WebCit-NG code.
I have a working Citadel server, but now that I have a few users set up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them! Thankfully I've just started using this particular Citadel server and it's only for family members but still, this can't be right surely? How can I fix this so that everyone has their own private trash folders?
Since compiling on the actual Pi took forever the previous time, I´d like to crosscompile using my x64 (Ubuntu 22.04LTS) machine. Is this a viable option? I assume simply running the script would just compile and set-up Citadel on my x64 machine instead of compiling targeting the Pi, right?
up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind
of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them!
That's definitely not the normal behavior. Did someone create a global room called "Trash"? I'd be willing to believe that this could override the normal behavior with some clients (and if we find out this is the case, let us know and we'll code around it).
like to crosscompile using my x64 (Ubuntu 22.04LTS) machine. Is this
a viable option? I assume simply running the script would just
It ought to work, but I couldn't tell you how to do it.
If you don't want to compile ... consider running the Docker container. It's already built for you.
up we've found that if anyone deletes messages they end up in a kind
of global trash folder so that anyone on the system can read them!
That's definitely not the normal behavior. Did someone create a global room called "Trash"? I'd be willing to believe that this could override the normal behavior with some clients (and if we find out this is the case, let us know and we'll code around it).
Yes, that appears to be what happened (though obviously not deliberately, could it have somehow been created by an IMAP client?) Either way, I deleted the "Trash" and "Trashcan" from the "Main Floor" and it seems OK now.
Subject: Segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster
Hello Volks sorry need help.
I am getting segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster:
Thx in advance
Log file:
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584447] show_signal_msg: 78 callbacks suppressed
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584456] citserver[3867]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.584483] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.643175] citserver[3868]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.643207] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.702374] citserver[3869]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.702406] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.761006] citserver[3870]: segfault at 10000014c ip 00007ff0323a6198 sp 00007ffeaef906f0 error 4 in libdb-5.3.so[7ff0322d4000+142000]
Jun 27 22:56:08 my kernel: [ 1054.761036] Code: a5 4d 85 e4 74 bc 4c 39 f0 74 a0 31 c0 48 8d 35 96 31 08 00 48 89 ef e8 46 e6 f2 ff b8 16 00 00 00 eb a1 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 <41> 8b 94 24 4c 01 00 00 e9 d4 fe ff ff 0f 1f 00 f6 83 ac 05 00 00
Manual start
root@mygate:~# citserver -x 9
citserver[32092]:
citserver[32092]:
citserver[32092]: *** Citadel server engine ***
citserver[32092]: Version 917 (build b47178f) ***
citserver[32092]: Copyright (C) 1987-2018 by the Citadel development team.
citserver[32092]:
citserver[32092]: This program is open source software: you can redistribute it and/or
citserver[32092]: modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 3.
citserver[32092]:
citserver[32092]: This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
citserver[32092]: but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
citserver[32092]: MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
citserver[32092]: GNU General Public License for more details.
citserver[32092]:
citserver[32092]: libcitadel(unnumbered)
citserver[32092]: main: creating lockfile
citserver[32092]: extensions: registered server command STLS (Start SSL/TLS session)
citserver[32092]: extensions: registered server command GTLS (Get SSL/TLS session status)
citserver[32092]: extensions: registered a new session function (type 0 Priority 30010)
citserver[32092]: master_startup() started
citserver[32092]: Checking directory access
citserver[32092]: Opening databases
citserver[32092]: db: open_databases() starting
citserver[32092]: db: Compiled libdb: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9, 2013)
citserver[32092]: db: Linked libdb: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9, 2013)
citserver[32092]: db: Linked zlib: 1.2.11
citserver[32092]: db: Setting up DB environment
citserver[32092]: db: dbenv->open(dbenv, /var/lib/citadel/data/, 75043, 0)
citserver[32092]: db: BDB2526 Finding last valid log LSN: file: 424695 offset 2551866
citserver[32092]: db: BDB1518 Recovery complete at Mon Jun 27 23:25:09 2022
citserver[32092]: db: BDB1519 Maximum transaction ID 0 recovery checkpoint [424695][2550648]
citserver[32092]: db: mounting databases
citserver[32092]: Initializing configuration system
Subject: Re: Segmentation fault after updating debian stretch to buster