Hi everyone! recently i found citadel and i want to give it a try. The problem is that the easy installer script does not work in Manjaro (Arch Linux) and the installer from the AUR is broken.

Can anyone provide me a guide on how to compile the software under Arch Linux? 

Thanks!

Cheers from Argentina

So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 

Sat Mar 12 2022 15:51:03 EST from manutremo Subject: Re: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

Hi, I see this was posted close to 1 yr ago, but I didn't find any answer.

I'm runnning into exactly the same issue as the op, that is, I'm trying to set a rule that checks the X-Spam-Status and sends it to a spam folder if it contains "True" (I checked the headers of a GTUBE email and it contains "True" instead of "Yes" as stated in the spamassassin documentation).

Any idea or workaround?

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Mon Apr 05 2021 08:31:30 EDT from vanadius Subject: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

I have a working setup with SpamAssassin marking incoming Mail.

Now I want Citadel to move all marked EMails to a Spam-Folder before delivering them to the clients. As I understand it the way to do that is using the server-side mail filters. I just can't seem to get the filter to work.
I expected the filter to be like:
If |X-Spam-Status| |contains| |True| |Move message to| |Spam| and then |continue processing|

I derived the filter from the EMail headers generated by SpamAssassin (The required value is -10.0 to force the EMail as Spam)

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: True, score=0.8 required=-10.0

However, no EMail matches the filter. If I invert the condition (from |contains| to |does not contain|), all EMails get sent to the Spam folder, so the problem is not with in the moving messages part.

Any Ideas?

 

Just airing the way ive gone about this.

While the basic citadel setup through the admin pages is well covered i found that it was easier to just have citserver answering port 25 and sending on to the smarthost, this keeps the whole thing reliable and easy to follow things when they go wrong.

I run my citadel on rocky but as a virtual machine on a proxmox server, and proxmox also have a mailrelay server that runs as a virtual machine under proxmox.

the mailrelay does everything you are asking for and more, and has a fabulous GUI for setting it all up, although if you want to mess with its postfix main.cf you need to look at its templates as it  updates main.cf through the gui.

proxmox mail covers antivirus, spam, whitelists blacklists  logging, dk/dm* 

and its free for non commercial use.

regards peter 

Fri Mar 18 2022 13:44:54 EDT from wintpe Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

 

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 

Just asking.

Now i'm running it on Debian 11 and is working great, i'm not a Linux expert only a enthusiast that found this software searching some terminal forum software.

Thanks for the reply!

As an enthusiast, running Citadel on a desktop Linux is fine - and a Debian based one is probably going to be the easiest for those who are not Linux pros. 

I've been successfully running Citadel, first starting on a Pi running Raspberry OS (before it was called that... or maybe it is called Pi OS now, whatever...) with DDNS... and then on bare metal on Debian, and now as a VM in a multi-node clustered Proxmox environment backing up to a NAS. 

Linux pros will over-complicate their advice on the BKMs to serve *anything* - and they're not necessarily wrong. I'm sure their systems are more secure, more efficient, enjoy more uptime, receive better lifetime support. 

But for the average guy who wants to run a BBS... Debian 11 desktop is fine. 

And along those same lines - if you're running an obscure, granular, very administrative-heavy server-based Linux distro intended for corporate applications - I suppose you can expect that you'll need to do a lot of manual customization to get the Citadel Easy Install to work - and the expectation should be that if this is the kind of linux platform you've chosen, you probably have the skills to figure out what is broken and how to fix it. 

I got a lot of advice from a lot of Linux gurus on my choice of a Pi, on my choice of Debian based OSes. Most of the people who gave me those suggestions still don't actually "sysop" a Citadel BBS. 

I've been doing it for about 4 years now. 

Hi,
I'm trying to run the easy install on an AlmaLinux vps, but I keep getting the error

Cannot write to /tmp/citadel-build.XXXXX

Are you not running this program as root?

even though I am logged in as root. I originally tried sudo but got the same results. I also get the same result whether I use curl or wget fwiw. Am I missing something really obvious here, or is there a workaround? Any help is appreciated!

Hi,

Could you share calendar for fixing this bug?

Sat Mar 12 2022 12:27:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: LDAP Users

FreeIPA has a public demo/test server! This is *very* convenient.

Actually, I haven't had a chance to look at FreeIPA ... seems like a very nice identity server. I might even install it on my own network.

But the good news is ... this bug is now confirmed and reproducible. Thanks for reporting it. Looking into this now.

what do `ls -ld /tmp` and `df /tmp` say?

thanks!

Here is the output:

[root@server ~]# ls -ld /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 140 Mar 28 10:53 /tmp
[root@server ~]# df /tmp
Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs            1048576 34056   1014520   4% /tmp
[root@server ~]#

found the problem! tmp was mounted with the noexec option

Hi, i am totally new to this (installed it yesterday) but found in the FAQ that you can reset the password by ssh to your machine and run the setup utility

which will be in /usr/local/citadel/setup for Easy Install or /usr/lib/citadel-server/setup if you have the .deb packages

Thu Apr 01 2021 10:08:33 EDT from spot Subject: maximum password length exceeded on setup

How to reset the password on the admin account with a ssh connect to the server.

 

I've googled and you have no idea how many things out there are called "citadel". Steam apparently have a game and it swamps the search hits for overriding passwords, even if you put a -steam qualifier.

 

I did find a very belated note out there that the maximum character length is 32 characters, which may or may not be outdated information. The shortest maximum I've ever seen was 9 characters on ICQ after the protocol became popular in Russia, presumably someone running the network was trying hard not to get arrested.

 

Anyway, I fell head-first into the trap and I don't know how to climb out. I could re-run the easy install but I thought I'd ask and then go for a walk.

Whaaa! ....my third post and the wheels are coming off :-) i replied to a question without quoting and was suddenly lost disorientated , forlorn , now i see the question was from a year ago ...ho ho!

Hi again denizens of this Citadel! Hoping to make use of Citadel as a functioning mail server after 'google workspace freebiee' closes down.

Successfully 'easy installed' on deb ,  DNS'sed and certbotted but https -p 443 is not happening for me , there does not seem to be instructions about required ports in the documentation but it seems https is not being forced.

this hoping someone will please chip in.

I have not been around for a while, seams like my account was removed.

I have to do some coding work, and would like to get access with my original user name.

Following is a post of mine:

https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=CitaNews?start_reading_at=4055627

These are the thinks I have coded for citadel in the past:

https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadelsync/src/master/

https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/src/master/

Sorry for the trouble, and thanks

TaMeR