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[#] Wed Jan 19 2022 16:49:49 EST from Nurb432

Subject: Re: Proxies

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it forwards external name to internal IP.   Retains the same port.

 

However it may be moot, tinyproxy is crashing again after too many sessions. Bumped up resources and ti runs about 3 hours then poof it dies. I'm thinking i'm going to read up on ngnix, set that up and see if it can handle the flood better.

Wed Jan 19 2022 09:32:57 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Proxies
I'm more interested in what conditions are configured to cause an HTTP connection to be forwarded to WebCit. Are you doing it by name, by path, by port, something else...?

 



[#] Thu Jan 20 2022 18:47:40 EST from UnexampledSalt

Subject: Easy Install of fresh Ubuntu server ONLY listens on IPv6

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Hello all,

I just stumbled upon this tool and love what it appears to do, so I thought I would give it a shot!

I spun up a new Ubuntu VPS, ran all my updates and upgrades, then ran the Easy Install!

I went through all the setup steps and selected '*' to listen on both IPv4 and IPv6 interfaces. When Citadel started I was not able to access it. I checked my netstat and all of the cit services are ONLY listening on IPv6. I know this server has an IPv4 interface, as that is the address I am using to SSH to it. Any ideas why it would only be using IPv6?



[#] Thu Jan 20 2022 19:39:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: User SYS_Citadel is not getting autopurged

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and here is when SYS_Citadel is not getting autopurged.

For now, don't worry about it. We're actually trying to get rid of SYS_Citadel so you don't see it anymore.

[#] Thu Jan 20 2022 19:43:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Easy Install of fresh Ubuntu server ONLY listens on IPv6

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I went through all the setup steps and selected '*' to listen on both
IPv4 and IPv6 interfaces. When Citadel started I was not able to
access it. I checked my netstat and all of the cit services are ONLY
listening on IPv6. I know this server has an IPv4 interface, as that
is the address I am using to SSH to it. Any ideas why it would only
be using IPv6?

That may be misleading. On a Linux system (unlike, say, OpenBSD) listening on IPv6 with an address like "*" will also make it listen on IPv4. Can you post the output of "ss -lt" so we can see where it thinks it's listening?

I suspect the problem might be somewhere else.

[#] Thu Jan 20 2022 19:47:04 EST from UnexampledSalt

Subject: Re: Easy Install of fresh Ubuntu server ONLY listens on IPv6

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It does appear to be listening on all interfaces...hmm...

Found it. It was UFW. That is usually disabled on Ubuntu installs by default.

I allowed 80 and 443 through the firewall and we are all good! Thanks!



[#] Fri Jan 21 2022 19:51:43 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Easy Install of fresh Ubuntu server ONLY listens on IPv6

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Glad to hear you got it working. And I'm somewhat alarmed that UFW didn't protect IPv6!

[#] Sun Jan 23 2022 10:35:30 EST from Nurb432

Subject: Proxies redux

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For what its worth, i switched to using Apache as the reverse proxy, things are ok now. 

Tried to use Pound after Tinyproxy, and while i think it woudl work ( and is small, etc ) but it does a https redirect on every call, and it seems you cant turn it off.   Sure, that might be the 'best' way these days, and one should never do anything that isn't SSL, but until i have certs on everything that breaks me.

 



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 11:28:56 EST from jcolson

Subject: docker installf

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So I quickly followed the directions in the docs in regards to the docker install (which there are no -p docs for it seems?) and I have the server up and running, but logging into it interactively and trying to run setup results in an error that 'setup could not connect to a running citadel server.: No such file or directory citadel-admin.socket'.  How does one 'setup' the docker container install?

sorry if  I missed the docs on this somewhere!

 

 



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 12:17:00 EST from Jay

Subject: Re: docker installf

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Wed Jan 26 2022 11:28:56 AM EST from jcolson Subject: docker installf

So I quickly followed the directions in the docs in regards to the docker install (which there are no -p docs for it seems?) and I have the server up and running, but logging into it interactively and trying to run setup results in an error that 'setup could not connect to a running citadel server.: No such file or directory citadel-admin.socket'.  How does one 'setup' the docker container install?

sorry if  I missed the docs on this somewhere!

 

 



nevermind!  got the setup to work, see the default password is 'citadel' ...  duh ...

 

cheers ..



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 14:59:05 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: docker installf

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Correct, there is no setup step on the Docker version, it is already running and you just log into it.

Help me out here, what is a "-p doc" ?

[#] Thu Jan 27 2022 05:29:46 EST from Jay

Subject: Re: docker installf

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Wed Jan 26 2022 02:59:05 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: docker installf
Correct, there is no setup step on the Docker version, it is already running and you just log into it.

Help me out here, what is a "-p doc" ?

apologies ...  -p (parameters that you pass docker run ...)

thanks!

also, just a heads up, looks like the link for the 'example customized login screen' on https://www.citadel.org/documentation.html is incorrect ... it links to the same link as 'sample customized room view' ...

Cheers,

Jay



[#] Fri Jan 28 2022 18:37:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: docker installf

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apologies ...  -p (parameters that you pass docker run ...)

Thanks for pointing that out. I have amended https://www.citadel.org/docker.html with a section documenting all of the optional flags.

also, just a heads up, looks like the link for the 'example customized login screen' on https://www.citadel.org/documentation.html is incorrect ... it links to the same link as 'sample customized room view' ...

Thanks for pointing that out too.   There were a bunch of obsolete links in that section and I have removed them.



[#] Sun Jan 30 2022 09:57:15 EST from mailman

Subject: Two questions: Encryption on rest and Relays

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Hi all,

I'm just about to set up a personal email server, and am considering Citadel, but have two questions.

1) Is it possible to set up "encryption on rest" (what I mean by this is that any unencrypted emails that land on the server are encrypted using a GPG key)?

2) I'm planning on having a local server on a Raspberry Pi and a remote server on a VPS (both Citadel). Any emails I send should go to my local server, get forwarded to the remote server and then sent to their intended recipient. Any emails sent to me should be sent to the remote server, and then forwarded to my local server. Basically I want the remote server to act as a private relay (which doesn't permanently store any messages, just sends them where they have to go). I saw https://www.citadel.org/relay.html but that doesn't seem to be about what I'm trying to do. Is a set up like this possible?

:)



[#] Sun Jan 30 2022 11:47:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Two questions: Encryption on rest and Relays

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1) There's no support for encryption-at-rest in the message store itself.
You might consider just encrypting the volume that it runs on? I don't know your specific situation but maybe that would work.

2) If you need to relay both inbound and outbound mail through an external relay, then your "local" server should be a Citadel, but the "external" server should not. You can use postfix or whatever your favorite traditional MTA is. The configuration would be something like this:

* For outbound mail, follow the smart host instructions at https://www.citadel.org/relay.html

* For inbound mail, configure the external server to relay your domain's mail to the Citadel server. If you are running Citadel from a dynamic or unpublished address then maybe configure a Wireguard tunnel to be initiated by the private server and then point the mail towards your end of the tunnel, so when the tunnel is up, the mail queue will be sent to it.


This type of setup used to be very common back in the days when a lot of sites had demand-dialed Internet connections.

[#] Sun Jan 30 2022 19:28:12 EST from mailman

Subject: Re: Two questions: Encryption on rest and Relays

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Excellent. Thank you. That all sounds perfect. I'll have a go setting it up, and come back if I get stuck! :)

Sun Jan 30 2022 11:47:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Two questions: Encryption on rest and Relays

1) There's no support for encryption-at-rest in the message store itself.
You might consider just encrypting the volume that it runs on? I don't know your specific situation but maybe that would work.

2) If you need to relay both inbound and outbound mail through an external relay, then your "local" server should be a Citadel, but the "external" server should not. You can use postfix or whatever your favorite traditional MTA is. The configuration would be something like this:

* For outbound mail, follow the smart host instructions at https://www.citadel.org/relay.html

* For inbound mail, configure the external server to relay your domain's mail to the Citadel server. If you are running Citadel from a dynamic or unpublished address then maybe configure a Wireguard tunnel to be initiated by the private server and then point the mail towards your end of the tunnel, so when the tunnel is up, the mail queue will be sent to it.


This type of setup used to be very common back in the days when a lot of sites had demand-dialed Internet connections.

 



[#] Mon Jan 31 2022 09:19:27 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Two questions: Encryption on rest and Relays

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Excellent. Thank you. That all sounds perfect. I'll have a go setting it
up,
and come back if I get stuck! :)

Come back even if you don't get stuck. We have a great community here :)

[#] Tue Feb 01 2022 19:52:44 EST from zorse

Subject: does anyone still run citadel on ham radio?

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[#] Tue Feb 01 2022 19:53:14 EST from zorse

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does anyone still run citadel on ham radio?



[#] Wed Feb 02 2022 12:00:03 EST from JFCM

Subject: I am new and lost about Doc and specially Wiki

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I am condiering to install Citadel on an Unbuntu test/home machine. My main interest lies in mediawiki farm and mails. I do not find where to have documentation about installing and running them under citadel?

Thx!



[#] Fri Feb 04 2022 14:33:49 EST from billpowell

Subject: new install problem

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I have just installed Citadel on Mint Linux 19.3 using the Software manager.  I used all the defaults.  I am unable to log in.  When I get to the login screen, there is a banner that says "You must be logged in to access this page."  Attempting to login using admin user name and password gets me back to the same page.  Using a different password bring up a Wrong Password message as one would expect.



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