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[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 16:59:48 EDT from JanDenOuden

Subject: Re: Citadel contineously crashing and restarting

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Thanks for your quick response.

I would want to try a database cleanup, but as you can see from the logs, citadel and the whole container crashes/restarts in about 10 seconds. I don't get a chance to start a database cleanup.

 

 



[#] Tue Sep 21 2021 09:27:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel contineously crashing and restarting

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I would want to try a database cleanup, but as you can see from the
logs, citadel and the whole container crashes/restarts in about 10
seconds. I don't get a chance to start a database cleanup.

The server doesn't run when you do a database cleanup.

If you are using the container version, stop the container, and then run it from the command line using the following command:

docker run -it --volume=/usr/local/citadel:/citadel-data citadeldotorg/citadel -d

That last "-d" will make the container run database_cleanup.sh instead of the Citadel Server. After it finishes dumping and loading, you can restart the server the normal way.

If you're not running in a container, just stop the server and run database_cleanup.sh

[#] Tue Sep 21 2021 14:38:27 EDT from michael

Subject: SMTP authentication fails, POP3 ok...

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Hi,

i installed Citadel via easy-install. Everything works fine, i can receive e-mails via pop3 port 110. But when i try to send e-mails via smpt port 25 or in my case port 26 (changed the port via webcit) i get an authentication failure:

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

 

Any idea? And yes, username and password are correct, i can login with theese credentials via webcit with no problem. I can also send e-mails via webcit, but have no luck with external clients. Another old installation of Citadel works with no problems, using same client.

System is a RaspberryPI 4 and Debian Buster.

 

 


[#] Tue Sep 21 2021 17:41:42 EDT from michael

Subject: SMTP authentication fails, POP3 ok...

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Hi,

i installed Citadel via easy-install. Everything works fine, i can receive e-mails via pop3 port 110. But when i try to send e-mails via smpt port 25 or in my case port 26 (changed the port via webcit) i get an authentication failure:

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

 

Any idea? And yes, username and password are correct, i can login with theese credentials via webcit with no problem. I can also send e-mails via webcit, but have no luck with external clients. Another old installation of Citadel works with no problems, using same client.

System is a RaspberryPI 4 and Debian Buster.

 

 


[#] Tue Sep 21 2021 19:08:17 EDT from michael

Subject: SMTP authentication fails, POP3 ok...

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Hi,

i installed Citadel via easy-install. Everything works fine, i can receive e-mails via pop3 port 110. But when i try to send e-mails via smpt port 25 or in my case port 26 (changed the port via webcit) i get an authentication failure:

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from 192.168.2.128 (192.168.2.128) uid=-1

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: user_ops: bad password specified for <> Service <SMTP-MTA> Port <26> Remote <192.168.2.128 / 192.168.2.128>

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: SMTP: client disconnected: ending session.

Sep 21 20:29:17 db0alg citserver[8069]: context: [231]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.

 

Any idea? And yes, username and password are correct, i can login with theese credentials via webcit with no problem. I can also send e-mails via webcit, but have no luck with external clients. Another old installation of Citadel works with no problems, using same client.

System is a RaspberryPI 4 and Debian Buster.

 

 


[#] Wed Sep 22 2021 13:54:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: SMTP authentication fails, POP3 ok...

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Maybe if you post it a fourth time someone will answer?

Please advise what SMTP client software you are using, and what SASL method it is using (LOGIN, PLAIN, etc).

Also try port 587 instead of port 25.

[#] Wed Sep 22 2021 15:05:42 EDT from michael

Subject: Re: SMTP authentication fails, POP3 ok...

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I am using Microsoft Outlook as a client, also tryed other ones but no luck.

Auth is plain, no spa/ssl/tls. I also tested with port 587, same problem....i have no idea anymore.

 



[#] Wed Sep 22 2021 18:24:47 EDT from Silverfoxe

Subject: email

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I just performed an easyinstall  on a virgin pi 3 with debian buster.

Am having issues with email contact settings and noticed display_reg?suppress_email=1 with no email information if I change email=0 looks like the information is available but isn't; anybody else have this issue?

I can locally email between primary accounts but not aliases.

this situation has happened with the current software on various pi operating systems including ubuntu server and manjaro, is anybody else having issues?

btw - working with my isp to resolved port 25 issues that appear to be connected to the router.

I've used citadel in the past without fail so I would like to get back to the application.

any help would be appreciated!

 



[#] Fri Sep 24 2021 17:58:05 EDT from JanDenOuden

Subject: Re: Citadel contineously crashing and restarting

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I did the database cleanup job. I expected a lengthy job, but it finished in only 2 seconds or so (database more than 2 GB).

For 1 or 2 minutes it looked OK. But then I got the crashes/restarts again, same error code 105.

Meanwhile, I have created a new citadel docker container, and did a new copy from my old NAS. Now with another tool, imapsync. This has been running now for 2 days, and looks good.

Thanks for you assistance in this. Using Citadel just for free as a private user, I appreciate the prompt help.

 

 



[#] Wed Sep 29 2021 07:09:22 EDT from xx1182

Subject: Easy Install witouth Systemd

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Hi, i've tried the EasyInstall method, and it says:

systemd was not found

cause even tho it is Debian my init system is not Systemd.

 

So according to the wiki, and the installer i'm supposed to go to /usr/local/citadel/setup, but it doesn't work, since setup tries to connect to a server.



[#] Wed Sep 29 2021 08:50:17 EDT from xx1182

Subject: Re: Easy Install witouth Systemd

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Well, i managed to just run "citserver" and then setup, i suppose that's the only binary that is needed to run, but how do i change the default ports?



[#] Wed Sep 29 2021 09:15:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Easy Install witouth Systemd

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You are correct about the Easy Install system requiring systemd to automatically start Citadel, and you are also correct about just running the citserver binary using whatever local method you're using.

To change the default ports, log in to any client. You can use the console mode client (citadel) if you want to. But you probably want the web client (WebCit), which is another server binary found in /usr/local/webcit/webcit.

[#] Wed Sep 29 2021 09:26:42 EDT from xx1182

Subject: Re: Easy Install witouth Systemd

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Very, VERY VERY NICE. It's all integrated, i've actually found the ports way back, but i tought, they were referring to the "webcit client" ports, and i didn't know it would actually change ports.

 

VERY VERY NICE. Regards.



[#] Wed Sep 29 2021 13:49:12 EDT from leemon

Subject: managesieve port

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Hi,

it seems managesieve port is not saved in [Administration -> Edit site-wide configuration -> SMTP], it's always "0", at least in the latest docker container.

 



[#] Thu Sep 30 2021 00:49:14 EDT from lambda

Subject: FreeBSD Scripts

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Can someone link the FreeBSD scripts that were at http://fleeb.com/Citadel/
namely webcit.sh and citserver.sh

Thanks!

 



[#] Thu Sep 30 2021 05:50:30 EDT from wintpe

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Hi Everyone

been using citadel for about 7 years now on the old rpm 8.xx version under centos 7

ive now upgraded to rocky linux 8 and installed the docker version from your downloads. (9.3)

the citadel.key and csr dont appear to have been created and in /usr/local/citadel/keys are just links to /citadel-data , which i see is under the docker virtual mount but again no files

in the target location.

is there a way to regenerate the keys. is my o/s install missing something, (its a default install) that caused the docker run to not produce the keys?

the documentation suggests restarting, which hasnt worked, or running the openssl command, but with no citadel.key that will not work.

any help appreciated.

regards peter 



[#] Thu Sep 30 2021 18:00:12 EDT from wintpe

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ok so i realised my mistake, in reading the doc on keys and have successfully generated the 3 for citadel and 3 for webcit, but 

still ssl connections dont work via webcit or 993/143, 587

any pointers in where to check would be apreciated.

im not using externaly signed certs, but im happy to use thunderbird in non strict conections.

everything is working fine in non secure mode by the way.

regards peter



[#] Fri Oct 01 2021 05:52:12 EDT from wintpe

Subject: Re: Docker container of Citadel is now ready to download

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Sat Aug 21 2021 19:08:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Docker container of Citadel is now ready to download

Docker images are ready for testing :)

Go to https://www.citadel.org/docker.html to learn more. So far, this is working way better than the AppImage distribution was, and most of the work we did on that has translated very nicely to the container. It's extremely stable and should be compatible with any host system on which Docker will run.

We have 64-bit AMD/Intel and 32-bit ARM containers available.

It is currently considered a test build, but our intention is to make it the primary way people run the Citadel system, both on your own hardware and in the cloud.

hi, i posted a couple of messages in the support forum, re the docker images.

the download site did not mension it was for testing only, or maybe it was not obvious.

i have no prob running on test release if it works though so moving on.....

im now running the docker image as my home system, and its very stable, only thing that did not work, and whats not 

obvious , a way to fix was the generation of the keys.

 

im running it on rocky linux 8, essentialy centos/redhat.

 

i ran the three openssl commands to generatev the 3 keys for webcit and citadel in the citadel-data directory, and restarted

 

but i still cant enable non strict ssl or starttls on thunderbird or access webcit through https, whereas i could on my old citadel 8 rpm version.

any pointers?

 

regards peter

 



[#] Fri Oct 01 2021 14:08:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Easy Install witouth Systemd

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Very, VERY VERY NICE. It's all integrated, i've actually found the
ports way back, but i tought, they were referring to the "webcit
client" ports, and i didn't know it would actually change ports.

Correct. WebCit doesn't speak to Citadel Server using all those ports. It speaks to Citadel Server either on port 504 or on a unix domain socket.
That screen in WebCit configures the ports that Citadel Server listens on for all those protocols.

[#] Fri Oct 01 2021 14:08:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: managesieve port

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it seems managesieve port is not saved in [Administration -> Edit
site-wide configuration -> SMTP], it's always "0", at least in the
latest docker container.

managesieve is no longer supported because Citadel no longer uses Sieve.

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