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[#] Tue Aug 13 2024 21:38:44 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Today I Learned that the people who whine pedantically that the "observer effect" and the "Heisenberg uncertainty principle" are not the same thing, are really just calling out two different aspects of the same phenomenon.
Today I Learned that it was in fact Heisenberg himself who first postulated the existence of the observer effect.

And so, observing someone who makes too much noise about "TEH HEISENBERG UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE IS NOT TEH 0BSERVER EFFECT!!!111" makes them look even stupidererer.

[#] Sat Sep 21 2024 14:42:45 UTC from Nurb432

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[#] Sun Mar 23 2025 15:30:12 UTC from Nurb432

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Related to the above, just found out that quantum entanglement is NOT instantaneous like originally believed.   But its so fast its beyond human comprehension.

So i guess that blows true 'instant communications anywhere in the universe'.  But, it will be close enough to just be an academic exercise and in all practicality its instantaneous.

  



[#] Tue Mar 25 2025 22:32:03 UTC from zelgomer

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2025-03-23 15:30 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Related to the above, just found out that quantum entanglement is NOT
instantaneous like originally believed.   But its so fast its
beyond human comprehension.

So i guess that blows true 'instant communications anywhere in the
universe'.  But, it will be close enough to just be an academic
exercise and in all practicality its instantaneous.

  

First off: weird.

Second, it sort of gives credence to a thought that someone else and I arrived at once over lunch. We were talking about how light doesn't have to accelerate, it just comes out at the speed of light. I pointed out that it's similar to how we think of waves through a fluid. We think of those waves propogating with some speed, but they're generated by some kind of energy and they don't accelerate; the "wave" (whether acustic or water or whatever) is really a conceptual model for the compression or expansion of matter as energy ripples out. And that's when "the thought" happened: does the universe actually exist in some kind of meta medium that hasn't been identified yet?

[#] Tue Mar 25 2025 22:48:51 UTC from Nurb432

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I believe they refer to that as quantum wave theory. Tho i tend to think matter is created from the intersection of the waves, in a multi-dimensional holographic diffraction sort of thing, so there really is no 'matter' to discover. its all an illusion.

 

Tue Mar 25 2025 22:32:03 UTC from zelgomer
 does the universe actually exist in some kind of meta medium that hasn't been identified yet?

 



[#] Wed Apr 09 2025 04:36:59 UTC from SamuraiCrow

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In my university's philosophy class I learned about a philosopher named Berkeley whose perspective was that everything perceived to exist is actually a figment of God's imagination. It's a pity our textbook only described his perspective without including any writings because it's beginning to sound exceedingly accurate.



[#] Fri Apr 18 2025 23:47:53 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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UC Berkeley?  They imagined a lot of things.  It probably was from the LSD  :)

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