The Hand that Covers Mouths can only blame Itself for getting Bitten.

It's been said that Violence IS the voice of the Unheard - https://ezinearticles.com/?Violence-Is-the-Voice-of-the-Unheard!&id=10304395
What is censorship but silencing a voice or a thought so as to make it unheard? And in that, is it not those who promote censorship that are creating the circumstances to induce violence?
So, can it not be said that Facebook promotes VIOLENCE through Censorship?

 - Tumblefluff the Squirrel 

Only the "correct" kind of violence. 

Communism and Socialism are essentially Theocracies where the official religion is the government itself; and all Theocracies are dystopian.

- Tumblefluff the Squirrel 

I donno, when i was brought up they were different.  Sure, the perverted versions of the CCP and Russia perverted communism to the point of being socialism. But on paper they were different.

When i was taught, communism was more like the tribes of native american Indians. A true communal, and volunteer, environment. ( which i do agree, will NOT work on the macro scale )  and socialism is basically large scale forced bait/switch/redistribution by an oppressive government. 

Sun Feb 19 2023 01:05:00 PM EST from Tumblefluff

Communism and Socialism are essentially Theocracies where the official religion is the government itself; and all Theocracies are dystopian.

- Tumblefluff the Squirrel 

I mean, the Hippie communes of the 60's were fine, but they weren't exactly what you'd call a "government", and nobody stopped you from leaving if you wanted (other than the cult communes).  And I would argue that the native americans had a Tribal government, not a Communist or Socialist government.  Tribal governments tend towards communal behaviors due to necessity as a consequence of smaller populations.

- Tumblefluff the Squirrel 

Sun Feb 19 2023 01:44:15 PM EST from Nurb432

I donno, when i was brought up they were different.  Sure, the perverted versions of the CCP and Russia perverted communism to the point of being socialism. But on paper they were different.

When i was taught, communism was more like the tribes of native american Indians. A true communal, and volunteer, environment. ( which i do agree, will NOT work on the macro scale )  and socialism is basically large scale forced bait/switch/redistribution by an oppressive government. 

Sun Feb 19 2023 01:05:00 PM EST from Tumblefluff

Communism and Socialism are essentially Theocracies where the official religion is the government itself; and all Theocracies are dystopian.

- Tumblefluff the Squirrel 

 

We saw tribal as communistic ( and optional, you could leave.. ).  But its all semantics at this point i guess, both in their current form, are bad. I do think most of the hippies had good, tho somewhat naive, intentions, but they were perverted by outsiders, manipulating things into a more totalitarian/socialist environment and using their goodwill as fuel.

I guess from my rant earlier, im stuck on 'words mean things' sort of thing. Ill stop and go walk the dogs.

Sun Feb 19 2023 02:21:04 PM EST from Tumblefluff

I mean, the Hippie communes of the 60's were fine, but they weren't exactly what you'd call a "government", and nobody stopped you from leaving if you wanted (other than the cult communes).  And I would argue that the native americans had a Tribal government, not a Communist or Socialist government.  Tribal governments tend towards communal behaviors due to necessity as a consequence of smaller populations.

 

I think that due to their hard core religious and 'rule based' society, they are more fascist than communist.  But that is from an outsider's point of view. I could be wrong.  I think you can leave, but its frowned upon and unsure if you can ever return.. 

I suspect some of the hippy movements did.  Since they were more traditionalist and not afraid to admit it.     But ya, most that claim to be, are something else worse.

Mon Feb 20 2023 12:39:19 PM EST from zelgomer

Along these lines, I've also heard the amish described as modern day examples of a communist society.

I don't know enough about amish society to comment on that, but I wonder: by this sort of definition, has there ever been a "true communist" society that actually referred to themselves as communists?

That really depends on which amish/mennonite community someone is from.  Some allow people to return, some don't.

Mon Feb 20 2023 12:45:49 EST from Nurb432

I think that due to their hard core religious and 'rule based' society, they are more fascist than communist.  But that is from an outsider's point of view. I could be wrong.  I think you can leave, but its frowned upon and unsure if you can ever return..