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Subject: Re: I hate that it's called "vibe coding"
A typical
subject of conversation in my group is the degradation of software
quality - why the fuck is fucking Windows 95 more responsible than
modern Windows? Automatic answer is why would any programmer do the job
of getting the project done right if they can use some bloated
framework that gets the job done within the impossible deadlines
expected.
The mantra I keep using is:
"We've been automating the same business processes for half a century and getting less efficient at it every year."
And we've gotten away with it because the curve of "faster computers cost less than programmer time." But we may have hit the end of that trend. We're hitting the limits of physics to the point where we have to literally pour water on the chips to keep them from burning up. A computer you bought a decade ago is still usable as long as you're not trying to do slop on it; meanwhile, the slop generator wants more compute than you can possibly give it.
I'm a "systems" guy - my career disappeared to
Indian in the early 2000s, then the cloud drove the final stake
into it.
And that's why it's revenge time.
When the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses his job.
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When the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses
his job.
Unfortunately, it also costs less than you and me.
2026-04-02 11:40 from LoanSharkWhen the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses
his job.
Unfortunately, it also costs less than you and me.
I mentioned it in a piracy focused group, but there is a reason why so many technical people is turning to fucking farming. This is not a joke, it is a trend I am seeing.
I have been bracing for impact for about a decade already, not because I think there is such a thing as an AI apocalypse, but because the economic fabric os my country's economy and all the adjacent economies are stressed and close to the breaking point. Meaning: the reality in which nobody wants to hire you and nobody cares if you live or die is pretty much a thing already around here.
Quite frankly, if I lost all my jobs *today* I could not care less about securing an IT job these days, or any sort of qualified job. I think working for peanuts for somebody who makes three times your sallary and thinks she is better than you despite the fact she does nto know how the firm works is not a good plan anymore - I have been lucky in that I have avoided that position most of my life but that is the reality qualified jobs operate under. I think I would just walk to the nearest mid-sized village and ask if they need people for the next cereal season at this point. I would only need to make by for about 5 years.
I literally spoke to somebody on a discord and when I told him how long I had just been unemployed he was like "shit, I would have just given up and bought a farm by now."
Thankfully, software development is only a small portion of my job.
The steady-state a lot of people are hoping for is that the AI is good enough to replace Shababolipuntajab Malasubravishtarmanian the H1B or offshore code pounder who only knows how to build the exact thing you prompt him to (which is what LLM excels at) but does not ultimately replace systems architects who actually think about how to put software systems together.
Also we should totally nuke China.
2026-04-07 01:54 from IGnatius T Foobar
Wouldn't that be remarkable ... if we went back to being an agrarian
society because we got so efficient at the information society that it
automated itself away.
The Great Depression occurred in no small part because of automation-driven farm productivity improvements.
There are simply too many people for everyone to have a farm job...
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service not known
You must have hit it when I was transisioning the host name to my new VPS ip. I was initially hosting it on my windows machine via a wireguard tunnel through my old VPS since my entire network is TMOBILE, and I have not control of natting. Now it's hosted on a new VPS with way more horsepower.
To answer your question you left on the board, this is what's under the covers:
Concurrency: Java 21 Virtual Threads (Project Loom)
Network Layer: Apache MINA SSHD
Data Persistence: Nitrite NoSQL
Terminal UI: JLine3
Security: jBCrypt
Build & Version Control: Gradle & GitHub CLI
In short, itbs a modern, asynchronous micro-server dressed up in the classic, room-based aesthetics of the 80s and 90s, and soon will be open sourced on github. I'm just constantly adding features, and trying to remember how the modern versions of cit acted and looked. A nostalgia project. LOL
I could have written in pretty much any language, but I chose JAVA because it's what I have the most experience with, and it's super portable without having to recompile. Not that my Android/IOS Flutter/Dart projects don't require this, but out of all the projects this compiles way faster than any of my others on this old laptop I code on. LOL.
Id like to. But here, you cant buy farmland unless you are a billionaire wanting to take it out of the 'serf market', or part of one of those 'investment' firms seeking to destroy it. every last bit of 'real' land is being paved over, and anything left is being reserved for the elite. ( which isn't me.. )
Sun Apr 05 2026 11:38:55 UTC from darknetuserI mentioned it in a piracy focused group, but there is a reason why so many technical people is turning to fucking farming. This is not a joke, it is a trend I am seeing.
2026-04-07 19:05 from Metal Maniac
Subject: Re: New Citssh: Could not resolve hostname games.gamesdaemondeck.com: Name or
service not known
You must have hit it when I was transisioning the host name to my new
VPS ip. I was initially hosting it on my windows machine via a
wireguard tunnel through my old VPS since my entire network is TMOBILE,
and I have not control of natting. Now it's hosted on a new VPS with
way more horsepower.up in the
To answer your question you left on the board, this is what's under
the covers:
Concurrency: Java 21 Virtual Threads (Project Loom)
Network Layer: Apache MINA SSHD
Data Persistence: Nitrite NoSQL
Terminal UI: JLine3
Security: jBCrypt
Build & Version Control: Gradle & GitHub CLI
In short, itb s a modern, asynchronous micro-server dressed
classic, room-based aesthetics of the 80s and 90s, and soon will be
open sourced on github. I'm just constantly adding features, and trying
to remember how the modern versions of cit acted and looked. A
nostalgia project. LOL
I could have written in pretty much any language, but I chose JAVA
because it's what I have the most experience with, and it's super
portable without having to recompile. Not that my Android/IOS
Flutter/Dart projects don't require this, but out of all the projects
this compiles way faster than any of my others on this old laptop I
code on. LOL.
So it's starting to become a hybrid, now has floor support. LOL
Too much in this room for me to respond - but yeah, I'm down for the revenge - even if it means the Dot-Not-Feather crowd, who've already largely been replaced by Filipinos in a lot of cases, find their livelihood as destroyed as their arrival did to my career. It wasn't just them - to be fair. It was also domestic DEI initiatives. So many IT teams are dominated by women and POC now - and when I hear them talk - I can see why so much IT runs so poorly now. Something just happened - and my team, the non-technical people were complaining about it - and I forget what it was, but my first thought was, "The cloud is just someone else's computer." Basically, a web based app vendor solution has some planned maintenance - and they're doing it when they're doing it - and we explained nicely we're a healthcare company and can't afford downtime in the middle of a production day - and they told us, "tough, this is when it happens, because we serve a LOT of businesses globally, and it is most convenient at THIS time for fish a LOT bigger than you."
I told them that would happen back when I was doing IT. They didn't listen. Now they get to experience it.
Back when I was still in production support (many roles ago, but at the same company) I would schedule maintenance windows, and we'd always get calls and emails from customers whining to us "Can't you do it LATER???111"
I would explain to them that we have customers with users worldwide, and if we pushed our maintenance windows further into the night, we'd be butting up against start of business in eastern Asia.
That usually got them off my back. Even if the real reason we were starting at 23:00 or 00:00 instead of, say, 02:00, was "IG and his co-workers don't want to be up that late."
Around here, for the most part, unless its an emergency or no downtime involved, we do our changes Sunday mornings. While we are 6-6 and we do have a few 24/7 customers, and some in other time-zones, its 'just the way we do it to minimize issues'. We also have a CAB board with a leader that has no issue pushing back, so for the most part we would not get bugged personally.
One advantage i had ( about the only one ) when we were forced to move the system i supported to cloud by some idiot managers a few years ago, the company that manages it was in the EU, so easy to schedule something at 4 am our time for them to do.. it like 9 am their time. ( tho it was partially a setup, to later use the troubles we had as excuse to drop them.. its taken many years, but it did finally come to fruition about 2 years ago )
Today i'm so far removed from anything now as i'm heading out the door, i don't really care if the 'replacement' system goes up in flames and don't even attend CAB meetings anymore.. ( actually, i hope it does go up in flames ) No, that isn't the best attitude but even worse than being ignored, i got directly told to shut up by upper management ( being the resident expert, its my freaking job to bring up concerns ) then having this total POS shoved down our throats. its just how i feel now. F-em. My manger at the time, was also cut out of everything, he left. Workplace politics is stupid and evil.
( and sorry for the diversion )
That usually got them off my back. Even if the real reason we
were starting at 23:00 or 00:00 instead of, say, 02:00, was "IG
and his co-workers don't want to be up that late."
Heh, I think the standard for devops here is to do night shifts because our customers are foreigners.
Here they tend to pay me enough so I can do maintenance right after business is closed and everybody has left. One of the offices actually has provisioned a room for me to stay the night. It works for me becuase my sleep schedule is all fucked up, I never manage to fall asleep before 2:00 am anyway.
Every answer here is why I don't look for work in IT. 24x7x365 support - when we call you, you fix it - I'm over that. I'm hourly -I get paid shit - but at 10 to 5, I'm out of the queue because they have laws that say I can't work over, I have to take breaks and lunch at specific times, I'm an hourly, scheduled employee. I have to be there RIGHT when they want me to start, and mostly I have to be OFF right when they want me off.
I mean - the shop where "We tell them it is because it is off hours, but it is really because we don't want to be there at 2 AM on Sunday," - I could do THAT - but that is an absolute anomaly in corporate fortune 500 IT - and if you're not a developer - working in small shops with those kind of policies seems like it is its own kind of living hell - and underpaid.
If I could go back to the start and do it again, I'd do forensics for the police. You see terrible things - but you get a pension, a union - the whole government thing - without ever really having to go out and deal with strung out crack addicts at 2 AM in the morning, and you retire at 54 and become a paid analyst for some consultancy, while also collecting your pension, which is 80% of your ending salary. It is insane.
Honestly, its not as bad as it used to be. Infrastructure tends to be more stable now, unless you break it, then its on you. A lot of changes and such don't even need downtime these days, so they get run during the day.
Sure, our Sunday mornings is the scheduled time, 'just in case' but 90% of the time no one even notices. Plus, technically we can book that time and use it during the week for PTO.
Sun Apr 26 2026 06:24:20 UTC from ParanoidDelusionsEvery answer here is why I don't look for work in IT. 24x7x365 support - when we call you, you fix it - I'm over that. I'm hourly -I get paid shit - but at 10 to 5, I'm out of the queue because they have laws that say I can't work over, I have to take breaks and lunch at specific times, I'm an hourly, scheduled employee. I have to be there RIGHT when they want me to start, and mostly I have to be OFF right when they want me off.
I mean - the shop where "We tell them it is because it is off hours, but it is really because we don't want to be there at 2 AM on Sunday," - I could do THAT - but that is an absolute anomaly in corporate fortune 500 IT - and if you're not a developer - working in small shops with those kind of policies seems like it is its own kind of living hell - and underpaid.
If I could go back to the start and do it again, I'd do forensics for the police. You see terrible things - but you get a pension, a union - the whole government thing - without ever really having to go out and deal with strung out crack addicts at 2 AM in the morning, and you retire at 54 and become a paid analyst for some consultancy, while also collecting your pension, which is 80% of your ending salary. It is insane.
Every answer here is why I don't look for work in IT. 24x7x365
support - when we call you, you fix it - I'm over that. I'm
Those days are over for me too, but it's only because I managed to hang in long enough to be promoted over it.
Those days are over for me too, but it's only because I managed to
hang in long enough to be promoted over it.
I've been trying to get promoted over it, but after 28 years I think I missed the boat. That isn't how things work here. The more I fix, the more gets shoveled my way. Fortunately, the number of outside-of-waking-hours calls is rapidly diminishing. I get tagged with a lot of things for 8/9/10pm but rarely anytihng later than that anymore. And it's partially my fault - I like fixing stuff. I wouldn't want to give that up to be a "manager", which seems to be the only escape for it here.
Yes, it is time for a new job. Has been for a while. But I'm staying put until the AI bubble bursts.