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[#] Mon Apr 19 2021 17:16:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Y'all are overthinking it. If I had an off-grid home, you know why I'd still want internet?

YOU.

I'd still want to chew the fat with my homies from Uncensored.

[#] Mon Apr 19 2021 17:36:45 EDT from Nurb432

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lol

 

:)

Mon Apr 19 2021 17:16:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Y'all are overthinking it. If I had an off-grid home, you know why I'd still want internet?

YOU.

I'd still want to chew the fat with my homies from Uncensored.

 



[#] Mon Apr 19 2021 21:39:44 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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👍

Love this feature. :D 

 



[#] Wed Nov 17 2021 13:52:15 EST from Nurb432

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So, 5 days no internet.

Area went down Saturday. Fiber break/cut/whatever. They fixed that. But, several us us were still not working. Had to call back in ( really? they KNEW we were still down .. they could see it on their boards before they left the first time )

Dude was scheduled to come about 20 mins ago. I got a phone call ( i have VoIP .. so it was gone too ). It was the tech.  I missed the call. darn.   Went out side to see where the truck was and he pulled up.  "ya, i plunged you back in, they forgot to this weekend after the other repairs were made  " wtf freaking incompetent morons



[#] Wed Nov 17 2021 17:52:52 EST from zelgomer

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2021-11-17 18:52 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
So, 5 days no internet.

Area went down Saturday. Fiber break/cut/whatever. They fixed that.
But, several us us were still not working. Had to call back in (
really? they KNEW we were still down .. they could see it on their
boards before they left the first time )

Dude was scheduled to come about 20 mins ago. I got a phone call ( i

have VoIP .. so it was gone too ). It was the tech.  I missed the
call. darn.   Went out side to see where the truck was and he
pulled up.  "ya, i plunged you back in, they forgot to this weekend

after the other repairs were made  " wtf freaking incompetent morons



Something similar happened to me once. I came home and discovered my internet was out. I called and they said the earliest they could get a tech out was in a week. I scheduled the appointment, and then later looked out my window and noticed the box at the curb was wide open and had a new above ground connection going into it. Some jackass contractor had installed a neighbor's internet and I guess just unplugged me to plug them in my spot. I called back and went full Karen on them. I told them they unplugged me, and they had better get somebody out tomorrow or every day they leave me without internet I'm going to use to shop for a new provider. They didn't budge. They know there's nobody else worth a dime in my area, and they're right. So I ended up waiting the week, and the guy never even came to my house. He showed up, plugged me back in, and left.

The ISP situation in the US sucks.

[#] Wed Nov 17 2021 18:10:31 EST from Nurb432

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AND.. after 1.5 hours some moron unplugged me..  had to call them again. thankfully i didnt have to wait days.  "we had 3 techs in there, bla bla" excuses. No excuse for this.  sloppy. 



[#] Wed Nov 17 2021 22:47:38 EST from zelgomer

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What even goes on in those boxes? Is it just a bunch of coax ports? Is there ever a legitimate reason to disconnect one you're not there to service?

[#] Thu Nov 18 2021 05:34:42 EST from Nurb432

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its all fiber.

And they claim they were still cleaning up from the damage Sunday.  I dont buy that.

Wed Nov 17 2021 10:47:38 PM EST from zelgomer
What even goes on in those boxes? Is it just a bunch of coax ports? Is there ever a legitimate reason to disconnect one you're not there to service?

 



[#] Thu Nov 18 2021 09:35:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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What even goes on in those boxes? Is it just a bunch of coax ports? Is


This depends on the type of service. In the US there will generally be one of three types of service. I'm only talking about terrestrial service here, so this doesn't include 5G or Satellite or Fixed Wireless.

(1) DSL
In the US this service is in steep decline because it can't deliver multi-megabit speeds, but if there's a "box" it's just a splice box, as with old-fashioned telephone service. Each copper pair goes all the way back to the central office. Nothing fancy here.

(2) Passive Optical Network (fiber to the home)
I think this is what Nurb432 has. The "box" in each neighborhood contains unpowered optical splitters, allowing one strand of fiber from the central office to fan out to 32 or 64 subscribers. These shorter post-splitter runs will generally run to what *looks* like a splice pack near the pole, but it's actually just a small patch panel. When a subscriber orders service, the installer will go to the box and place a patch cable between an open port on a splitter and a shorter run going to the pack closest to the subscriber premises. Then he will go to that pack, attach to the matching port, and fly or bury a cable to the house.

(3) Hybrid
This is typically what you get when you order service from "the cable company".
They will run fiber to the neighborhood, and then the "box" in the neighborhood contains powered, active equipment, including a battery backup. This equipment (referred to as a "node" in their parlance) acts as a media converter, powering a plant of coaxial cable that reaches the subscribers in that neighborhood.
Depending on the size of the territory covered by the node, there may also be one or more powered midspan repeaters between the node and the subscriber, but these are becoming rare because of the limited bandwidth of coaxial cable compared to fiber; "node splits" happen often.

A couple of notes here --

Note 1: the little "pedestals" sticking out of the ground in neighborhoods where all cables are buried, may just be a small patch panel.

Note 2: in territories served by AT&T "U-Verse" the service is Hybrid, but the span between the node and the subscriber is actually a variant of DSL.
This means they *do* have to splice each customer at the node.


Hope that helps. I can talk all day about this stuff if you want :)

[#] Thu Nov 18 2021 16:28:08 EST from Nurb432

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I have not seen their equipment myself ( other than the fiber modem at my house of course ) but i agree its #2.  They dont offer anything other than fiber, never have, so it would not be hybrid. 



[#] Sat Nov 20 2021 12:25:45 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Right ... if you have fiber coming all the way into the premises, it's almost always going to be some variant of PON. The economics of a distribution network with absolutely no powered equipment in the cable plant are just too good to pass up. I think the "cable companies" will eventually be forced to migrate away from hybrid -- consumer bandwidth needs are increasing too quickly, and the value and uptake of "broadcast" video continues to decrease.

[#] Sat Nov 20 2021 17:21:44 EST from Nurb432

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Not sure why we dont move more towards municipal WiFi..  we have poles *everywhere* they could be mounted on.



[#] Tue Nov 23 2021 18:56:07 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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We do have that.  Many cable companies put access points all over their networks.  They look something like this:
Time Warner Making a (Wireless) Ruckus - Dr. Jonathan L ...
We've got these things all over the place.  In fact there's one right in front of my house (which isn't much use to me since the street is 200 feet (about 61 meters) away from my house.


[#] Tue Nov 23 2021 19:15:28 EST from Nurb432

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Not seen one of those around these parts. 



[#] Sun Dec 05 2021 10:22:37 EST from Nurb432

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It was bought up before ( i forget which room now.. might have been security ) But looks like OPVN, a normally free VPN service, offers incoming connections and a static IP if you pay. Looks like its 3 bucks a month. 

 

https://www.ovpn.com/en/features/public-ipv4



[#] Sun Dec 05 2021 10:37:49 EST from Nurb432

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Ok, i'm a moron, its not normally free. I got my public VPNs mixed up.   Its 5 bucks a month if you pay by the year.  

 

( was up too late last night fixing accounts after that migration i was bitching about in workplace.  Should go back to bed but daughter in law is on her way.. )

 



[#] Mon Dec 06 2021 09:55:03 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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$5/month for VPN plus $3/month for the static IP service. $8 is still reasonable and I'm happy to see that someone else is doing it.

[#] Mon Dec 06 2021 11:14:56 EST from Nurb432

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Oh,  i didnt mean to say it was out of line, just that the base wasn't free like i was thinking.. didnt want to lie to everyone :)   i agree ~8 bucks a month isn't bad.

I still think my VPN people will offer it eventually with their static IP option, from that response i got when i asked. It was at least on their radar. Not that they are better or worse than anyone else, but they have been to court and it was proven they cant provide logs. 

Mon Dec 06 2021 09:55:03 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Static IP VPN
$5/month for VPN plus $3/month for the static IP service. $8 is still reasonable and I'm happy to see that someone else is doing it.

 



[#] Mon Dec 06 2021 19:29:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Right. My needs are different, of course. I simply need to keep the amateur pink-haired canceltwats from knowing the actual location of my servers. If I was directly targeted by The Regime it'd be my servers and my job and my ass all at the same time, so none of the hosting arrangements would matter.

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