"hey, if we don't call it an actual war and just 'military action against scumbags', Congress, and the law, can bugger off. Lets go kill people!"
"Attack on Kyiv shows 'Russia doesn't want peace', Zelensky says". Actually, that is untrue. They are not fond of war either, they just want the land/resources, and since he wont give it up, war it is.
Not saying what Putin is wants is right or wrong, just that its not how Zelensky is stating it.
Again. Agree. Ukraine and Russia are same/same, honestly.
Here is what this really is about - and most people don't KNOW, because, how could you...
This is an organized crime mob war. This is two European Organized Criminal Organizations having the same kind of crime war that the Italian mob used to have in New York or Chicago - just on a bigger scale.
Putin is a crimelord, and so is Zelensky. Global criminal organizations fighting for dominance.
Sun Dec 28 2025 00:47:05 UTC from Nurb432"Attack on Kyiv shows 'Russia doesn't want peace', Zelensky says". Actually, that is untrue. They are not fond of war either, they just want the land/resources, and since he wont give it up, war it is.
Not saying what Putin is wants is right or wrong, just that its not how Zelensky is stating it.
Most wars are when you get down to it. Tho, perhaps ill agree this has been worse than many since it was years in the making, of Zelenskyy laundering the worlds money and Russia not getting any of the cut.
( and i do agree, really they should have been re-annexed long long ago )
Sun Dec 28 2025 07:09:59 UTC from ParanoidDelusions
This is an organized crime mob war.
If true. That was a stupid move.
"Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claimed Ukraine had attempted to attack President Vladimir Putin's residence with drones."
Of course you would say that. jerk.
Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeekBomb the Iranian regime already.
I want to understand when exactly "your side," decided to align with the Iranian government - and how you came to that conclusion.
I suppose you already fell in line with Hamas and Palestine - so it shouldn't be surprising.
How do you feel about the Taliban and ISIS?
They're all just freedom fighters and the Western imperialists have pushed propaganda and lies to malign them all?
Thu Jan 15 2026 14:26:18 UTC from ZoeGraystoneOf course you would say that. jerk.
Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek
And i guess ill burn #2 here. Looks like the pool of responses for you is now dry. i do not expect a refill.
While you have not been around lately so you are working off a few of the last clearly mis-interpreted posts and not the entire story, you are totally wrong. I do NOT support things like ISIS and Taliban, or the concept of Palestine. I do not support intervention into sovereign countries and randomly killing people, which is what my comment was about.
Yes, propaganda happens, but they invaded and killed innocent people. Thus i don't support them. And now, i don't support our current war-driven imperialistic administration, for the same reason. Nurb was right. Im glad i met him, i have slowly pivoted to his point of view.
And for the last fraking time i DO NOT HAVE A 'SIDE'. Unless your want to call Independence a side. Judge each by their promises and subsequent ( or past ) actions, not whatever random label they choose to scam you with.
Oh, and related to another post, yes im stretching #2 here a bit but thought id get it in before i close it down : I never said everyone here is a jerk/ass/elitist. Some here seem to be good people. So no, you cant use that pathetic childlike excuse of 'its an eco chamber' or 'you see in others what you are'.
Fri Jan 16 2026 04:20:07 UTC from ParanoidDelusionsI want to understand when exactly "your side," decided to align with the Iranian government - and how you came to that conclusion.
I suppose you already fell in line with Hamas and Palestine - so it shouldn't be surprising.
How do you feel about the Taliban and ISIS?
They're all just freedom fighters and the Western imperialists have pushed propaganda and lies to malign them all?Thu Jan 15 2026 14:26:18 UTC from ZoeGraystoneOf course you would say that. jerk.
Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek
You totally have a side. It is the wrong side. But - you're an American, I think - so you get to have it. Welcome to liberty. You're welcome.
I don't like you - but I respect your ability to verbally and vocally disagree with me. That is what America is about. Maybe you should stop eroding that concept. Shrug?
Disagreement is fine. The "jerk" part was unnecessary.
I'm ok with Iran and the rest of the sixth century theocracies being bombed back into the stone age. I'm not ok with the US doing it. Let the other hemisphere self destruct. If you want to spend my tax money on bombs, I'd rather see them dropped on Medina Washington instead of Medina Saudi Arabia.
And see, I'm OK with American exceptionalism occasionally reminding the world that it DOES operate on OUR timeline - that everything else the world believes is indulgence we allow.
Canada's plan if we invade is to fold in 2 days and hope insurgents fight back - but they MIGHT be ready to defect. Canada isn't SURE how that would go.
That isn't just Canada - it is all of Europe.
We don't have to bomb them ALL back to the 6th century. Just a couple will get the message across. Then we can all go back to pretending we're all equal. Because America is the Big Jock who is actually a nice guy to the loser pencil necked geeks. But we don't have to be. We COULD be the obnoxious jock who throws you into your locker.
Sun Jan 18 2026 22:50:02 UTC from IGnatius T FoobarDisagreement is fine. The "jerk" part was unnecessary.
I'm ok with Iran and the rest of the sixth century theocracies being bombed back into the stone age. I'm not ok with the US doing it. Let the other hemisphere self destruct. If you want to spend my tax money on bombs, I'd rather see them dropped on Medina Washington instead of Medina Saudi Arabia.
We should not be making deals with our enemies, be they trade deals, arms control deals, nuclear deals or any other kind of deal. Nothing good ever comes of it.
I will enjoy watching the likes of Tucker Carlson, Mark Dice and similar wretches crash out over the coming days.
No, im not 'back'.
Tho i doubt she sees this, i just wanted to send best wishes to Trl, as her area is under attack again.
Nurb, 1st off - STFU. You aren't "back". You never left. You were here before me, you'll be here long after I'm gone. This is a home base BBS for you. I'm a passing event - and this is your territory.
as for "her"... I dunno. I feel like I've been around longer than she was - so if she goes away - it just didn't stick. That is just my observation. I know you like her - and I understand why - and I tried to make her feel like she should fight for her place here. I can't fix her. But you've got no excuse. You're certainly not going to let me drive you away from a place that is basically your digital "local". This is YOUR pub. I'm a guy from out of town who showed up and pushed my weight around. I'm never going to replace your place here. If this is our Cheers, your seat is always going to be yours.
As far as WW3 - if Trump is the one who triggers WW3 - as the bombs are landing and the mushroom clouds are blossoming over major US cities - you can at least take solace in knowing I was wrong.
But - I certainly doubt it will ever get to that point. We survived Reagan's nuclear brinkmanship with the Soviet Union. Do you think it is MORE challenging what Trump is engaging in?
A very serious question - do you CARE if humanity erases itself in a global nuclear war? Likely we won't - we may reduce ourselves back to a stone age civilization - but the truth is that we're unlikely to erase ourselves. We'll just build ourselves back up to this point in ANOTHER 2000 or so years. Have you ever read "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?