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[#] Thu May 19 2022 16:37:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well it did specifically call out DNS hijacking as the permissible "remedy", and not actual network hijacking.

Fortunately, secure DNS servers plus DNSSEC were designed to prevent bad actors from altering DNS results in-stream. This is good because now the ultimate bad actor wants to do it.

The more the Empire tightens its grip, the more star systems slip through its fingers.

[#] Thu May 19 2022 18:08:18 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, there are ways around it, but if they stop the unwashed masses, then they consider it a success. 



[#] Thu May 19 2022 18:12:02 EDT from Nurb432

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I take it back there is one way:

Mandate a compromised IP stack + backdoored CPU ( vpro, for example ) on every machine that connects to the network. 

I remember in the old days of dial-up how some companies had their own custom IP stack + software to be able to connect to their service.  Sure, it was not nefarious at the time as it was still the early days, but i was thinking "this could be really bad if used the wrong way"



[#] Fri May 27 2022 09:25:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Sure, if it was AOL or Prodigy, they had a custom IP stack, but it was only there so you could run "regular" TCP/IP software while using them as a network provider. Most of the others just shipped a skinned version of Trumpet Winsock.

[#] Fri May 27 2022 11:43:01 EDT from Nurb432

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A few others did too, the 'local' one i used for a while ( i forget the name now, its been too long ) also did it.

I do realize its long ago not everyone did it, etc. bla bla.  Just pointing out that they could do it, again. 



[#] Mon Dec 05 2022 18:17:34 EST from Nurb432

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So at the office they are in the process of "denying iis verbs" on all web servers.

Wont that make many of the apps useless?



[#] Tue Dec 06 2022 09:30:22 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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WTF is a "verb" ? Is that what the rest of the world calls "methods" ?

[#] Tue Dec 06 2022 11:06:48 EST from Nurb432

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ya,  get. post, head. etc.

 

i had to go look it up too..  I heard about it a few months ago  ( i was asked to automate something about it ) then just saw the CMR yesterday that its really going to happen.



[#] Tue Dec 06 2022 14:55:38 EST from Nurb432

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And sites are going down as they make the changes.

Not all. but there is fallout.



[#] Wed Dec 07 2022 09:13:41 EST from Nurb432

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Ok so its not ALL methods, err verbs. The CMR said 'disabling verbs on all IIS servers' and that was all it said, other than listing which servers were in each "batch".  it implied all, and i had zero idea how anything was going to function. But in reality, its only some of the more "dangerous" ones ( in their eyes ) such as delete, patch, and nuke.  But stuff like post and get are still allowed.

Still killing a few of our apps. But at least not a complete implosion. 



[#] Sat Dec 17 2022 15:04:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well, shame on them for using IIS-proprietary methods, I guess.

[#] Wed Jun 28 2023 10:11:47 EDT from nonservator

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Fucking Mozilla. Firefox now refuses to delete individual items from my history, either with Shift-DEL or by clicking the three dots and selecting "Remove from history". Literally nothing happens.

The entire World Wide Web must be burned to the ground, and the earth salted.



[#] Wed Jun 28 2023 10:25:45 EDT from Nurb432

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Well, it did grow into something that it was never intended to be.  ( starting with client side processing....)

Wed Jun 28 2023 10:11:47 AM EDT from nonservator

Fucking Mozilla. Firefox now refuses to delete individual items from my history, either with Shift-DEL or by clicking the three dots and selecting "Remove from history". Literally nothing happens.

The entire World Wide Web must be burned to the ground, and the earth salted.



 



[#] Wed Jun 28 2023 16:23:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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To be fair, the WWW was not originally intended to be an application delivery platform.

[#] Thu Jun 29 2023 01:41:46 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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It wasn't made for cat pics/vids either, yet here we are.

Wed Jun 28 2023 16:23:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
To be fair, the WWW was not originally intended to be an application delivery platform.

 



[#] Thu Jun 29 2023 07:00:38 EDT from Nurb432

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Not so sure about that. ( the picture part at least..   doubt people had thought past images due to bandwidth back then )

Thu Jun 29 2023 01:41:46 AM EDT from LadySerenaKitty

It wasn't made for cat pics/vids either, yet here we are.

 


[#] Thu Jun 29 2023 07:38:02 EDT from Nurb432

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is it just me, or does latest chrome on Linux suck for downloading. suck bad..   It pretty much freezes the entire thing during the download, and if there is more than 2 the entire PC slows down to mud (system resources are fine, its gotta be chrome internal resources )

I can wget the same file just fine, so its not the system. just chrome.

 

and i know i know.. dont use chrome it sucks..  but it has a couple of things i use between platforms. 



[#] Fri Jun 30 2023 10:57:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Not so sure about that. ( the picture part at least..   doubt
people had thought past images due to bandwidth back then )

The first web browsers didn't even have inline images. That got added pretty quickly though.

Think about how people used the Internet in 1990 and that's probably what they had in mind. Cat pictures were attached to messages on UseNet all the time. Likewise for all manner of pr0n. pr0n always finds a way.

Let's change the assertion to this: Tim Berners-Lee and his team didn't envision the WWW as an application delivery platform. We know that Marc Andreesen famously did, which is why the Eye of Redmond focused squarely on Netscape and its demise. But that's OK because the Netscape team thought they were the gods of the Internet and deserved to rule the world, and it was good for them to be taken down.

[#] Fri Jun 30 2023 20:29:04 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, i do think images were part of the original plan. 



[#] Fri Jun 30 2023 23:56:08 EDT from papa

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I think before the WWW, the best you could do was find an image file (by file name) on a BBS, gopher server, or anonymous FTP, download it, run your local viewer program for whatever graphics format it happened to be, then see if the image was worth all the preceding effort.

So yes, I think embedded images were greatly desired when the WWW was being designed.



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