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So I came into a date simulator called Date Ariane and thought I could share my experience here.
Date Ariane is a date simulator built on top of a Visual Novel engine. What this means is that the game presents you with situations and you choose how to face them, in a Chose-your-own-Adventure fashion.
The plot is simple. You have been set up in a blind date with a hot girl at her house and you have to make the most of the visit. There are many activities you can choose to do, including dancing, taking her out for dinner, taking her for a swim at the swimming pool or visiting the museum. There are lots of options for the date and you will be able to play the game lots of times without seeing much stale content.
The way you carry out your conversation while you are doing your date activities is what defined how much you get her to like you. This is a game about balance. If you joke too much, you will come across as immature. If you don't utter any joke, you will come across as a borying mushroom. Sucess comes from being able to portray yourself as a sexy, funny, nice and smart guy, without overdoing it.
It is also very easy to trash the date by having so much alcohol, but on the other hand you won't get the gal lose enough without some cups of wine.
If you play your cards right, you will get her hot for you and get to fuck her. Needless to say, the game is +18 :-) Most likely, though, you will get her to tell you she had fun with the date, send you home and tell you to call another day for more fun.
Hell 14 year old kids have access to live sex..
14 is not the same as it was when we were 14. More like 20..
2022-08-04 17:01 from IGnatius T Foobar
That sounds like the kind of game that a 14 year old would like to hack
into to guarantee the best possible outcome. Or maybe that's not a
thing now that 14 year olds probably have access to pr0n.
There is not much reason to hack a game for porn. For one, actual porn games are already available, not to mention tonnes and tonnes of actual porn. There is not much sexy material in Date Arianne to make it worthwhile.
Kind of reminds me of "Leather Goddesses of Phobos" when you played it in "lewd mode". But that was all just text.
2022-08-17 09:15 from IGnatius T Foobar
You've got to WORK for it!!! :)
Kind of reminds me of "Leather Goddesses of Phobos" when you played it
in "lewd mode". But that was all just text.
Now, that sounds interesting.
Don't frown on pr0n text games. Good text can be better than a lot of the graphic pr0n crap you usually find around.
There was digitized porn on the C-64.
And there were porn games on the 2600.
If you were a C-64 hacker/cracker/phreak, you could get digitized porn. With the Amiga, it became photo quality.
Thu Sep 08 2022 19:31:49 EDT from IGnatius T FoobarA generation ago, pr0n text games might have been the only pr0n a teenager could get. With unlimited pr0n of every variety available to everyone now, if someone chooses a text game, that means they're going to appreciate it for what it is.
ASCII porn on the mainframe...
Wed Nov 09 2022 01:13:53 PM EST from ParanoidDelusionsThere was digitized porn on the C-64.
C-64 did have a lot of ASCII porn too. It was a little tedious to print out on your dot matrix and sit across the room squinting to make the image appear. :D
But there were actual digitized animations. They were generally B&W and often just a portion of the small section of the resolution of the C64 graphics mode... but, you know, the demographic was mostly 12 to 18 year old males, and they've got a LOT of imagination to work with... and it was easier to hide porn on a floppy than a penthouse under your bed.
When i was a teenager, we had it live. :)
Friend of mine had her first baby in our freshman year, and they moved into an apartment. Above them lived a pole dancer. ( she was actually a great woman, her husband vanished one day left her with a 10 year old daughter. had no skills or schooling so she did what she had to to eat and get some training for a career )
We were a rather 'open' group. in several ways actually. Not all of us made it however.
Tue Dec 06 2022 11:20:39 AM EST from IGnatius T FoobarWell yes, but most teenagers were simply looking for *anything* they could get their hands on. If you didn't know where Grandpa kept his stack of magazines, an hour-long download and a bit of imagination would be all some teenagers could manage. For better or for worse, anyone now has access to hours of high definition video at no cost. Pixel-pr0n has no need to exist.
Listening to some of the people talk about AI generated stuff.
For the record, "art" = Item created for aesthetic purposes. So that means AI generated art, is still art. Get over yourselves, self absorbed 'artists'.
I remember similar attitude happening when electric instruments appeared on the rock scene " that isn't a musical instrument. Sure it was, and guess what all you acoustic purists, still could make music, couldn't you... There is room for everone, no need to show your intolerance because you feel threatened.
I do a lot of different things with music but I'm mostly a synth player these days (mainly due to what the band needed during this particular time in the universe) and I've read a bit of the history. It seems that "serious" musicians considered us to be intrusive because we were playing a "fake" instrument that would reduce demand for people playing "real" instruments.
As we all know, it didn't exactly go that way. There's nothing like a real string section. And when you want pads or saws or a unique sound that only a chip can produce, there's no substitute for a synth.
An electronic instrument being operated by a human player is not AI, though.
There's no such thing as AI. "Expert systems" and "machine learning" are just complex algorithms designed to operate in a specific problem space. Wake me up when a "machine learning" algorithm says "Ok, I know you wanted me to learn how to operate a car, but I think I'm going to design a nuclear reactor instead."
The current ML craze is not because of any breakthrough; it's simply that we have machines fast and dense enough to process bigger and more complex data sets. It's just ELIZA on a bigger computer.
Here is what the artists are concerned about.
If you make a living from art... say you're a band, called Pink Floyd. You do innovative things with sound, including synthetic sound, and help to create a niche genre called "prog-rock" that includes other like minded bands like Alan Parson's Project, Genesis, Asia and Yes, et. al.
The corporations that SELL that art make a tremendous amount of money off this emerging new genre of music - and they reward the artists with heaps of money. The consumers are happy, the corporate label is happy, the artists are happy.
The synthesized, digital music itself isn't a problem. It is just another way to make interesting noises that turn on endorphins in the human mind. It still needs a human controlling it all. It is a short cut. I watched a Pink Floyd documentary recently, where they were talking about how there was no digital editing, there was no real sampling, so the clocks all chiming at the start of "Time", they had to get all those clocks together, get them to all go off like that at the right times, and capture the recording of it. Very analog process. Today it wouldn't happen like that. There would be less *ART* to creating that bit. You would just sample all of those various chimes, and edit it to exactly how you wanted it to hear. On the one hand, it is less of an ART in capturing something like that - less of a passion and dedication to getting it *just* how you want it, through multiple takes, resetting all those clocks - less tedious dedication to getting the result you want.
On the other hand, it makes getting the idea out of your head more accessible to more people - who in the past may have had great VISION but less ability to actually realize what they were hearing. This is a trade off. I can see why the most talented, passionate artists are protective about making it easy for just ANYBODY to realize a masterpiece - but I can see why just ANYBODY welcomes tools that make it easier for them to realize their internal artistic visions without the kind of obsessive dedication necessary in the past.
BUT - what AI art does - we'll relate it to the music example first. You tell the AI "make me a HIT song in the style of bands like Pink Floyd and Queen." The AI goes out and listens to all the hits of that type, by crowdsourcing the collective consciousness - and through an algorithmic *formula* intentionally creates the BEST example of what that means to society. There is no ART to this. The company has a machine at its bidding. The consumers get manipulated - the song is artificially and programmatically designed to exploit their specific desires, the artists get shafted, and the corporation makes all the money, which it gets to keep for itself.
The same thing with drawings. "Draw me a picture," and it does. Make me a logo, make me a movie poster, make me a sports car design.
As AI art becomes more prevalent, the AI will end up designing "art" based on crowd-sourced preferences that exist because AI has been creating all the art. There will be little or no human spark left in the design. Everything we consume will be based on an algorithm based on what the AI created before that was most popular.
Machine art may be "art" - but it isn't art created by a human. YOU didn't create the AI Art. You told a computer to draw some art for you, and it did.
Digital art is still ART, much the same way that digital music, synthesized music, is still music - as long as a human is drawing the lines, filling the colors. It might be easier, there may be shortcuts - you may make a riff and then loop it, or a chord progression and then loop it, or have tools that create effects on the digital canvas - but you're still controlling the medium.
When you just tell the computer, "Make me a picture, or make me a song," and it does - it isn't really ART. It is a computer generated facsimile of art.
Sun Dec 11 2022 19:04:15 EST from Nurb432Listening to some of the people talk about AI generated stuff.
For the record, "art" = Item created for aesthetic purposes. So that means AI generated art, is still art. Get over yourselves, self absorbed 'artists'.
I remember similar attitude happening when electric instruments appeared on the rock scene " that isn't a musical instrument. Sure it was, and guess what all you acoustic purists, still could make music, couldn't you... There is room for everone, no need to show your intolerance because you feel threatened.
I think it still will, at least in part. I do think that there is room for all kinds of art, just like some people still prefer vinyl ( and its making a resurgence .. ).
I see it in other areas too, even as mundane as cola.. some people want the real stuff, not corporate slop. But many do. So co-existence is possible.
Thu Jan 05 2023 12:01:37 PM EST from ParanoidDelusionsToday it wouldn't happen like that.
2023-01-05 13:13 from Nurb432
I think it still will, at least in part. I do think that there is
room for all kinds of art, just like some people still prefer vinyl (
and its making a resurgence .. ).
I see it in other areas too, even as mundane as cola.. some people
want the real stuff, not corporate slop. But many do. So
To be honest, I am not impresed by the AI art I have seen so far.
If it ever gets to a point in which it is usable, I think it will be used as a technical aid at first. Think of the comics industry. I suspect comic houses will have a small team of concept artists, which will be tasked wirh drawing models. Artist Jack will be required to create some models of the hero Horseman and the evil Dr. Carrot. Then the models will be fed to the AI, and the AI will be told "Draw a comic cover in which Horseman is shown kicking Dr. Carrot in the face".
The main problem with AI art is that it seems capable of creating illustrations based on massively available and common images. If you instruct it to "draw a book cover of Albert Einstein with a bazooka" you are likely to get something resembling what you asked for, because the computer is very likely to know what is a bazooka and who is Albert Einstein. If you want a cover for your sci-fi book you are screwed up, because "A black starcruiser covered in spikes orbiting around a giant green space octopus" is gonna fry the computer.
I have seen some that were impressive, a lot that are not. Some that are 'well, that is neat'. Playing with DallE i have got a lot of abstract stuff back, interesting items. At worst, inspiration for someone to paint/draw from to 'clean it up'.
But, regardless of what it is today, it will only improve, and people WILL have to deal with it at some point. its not going away.
Thu Jan 05 2023 04:12:25 PM EST from darknetuser
To be honest, I am not impresed by the AI art I have seen so far.