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[#] Mon Mar 30 2026 02:56:51 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: I hate that it's called "vibe coding"

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A typical
subject of conversation in my group is the degradation of software
quality - why the fuck is fucking Windows 95 more responsible than
modern Windows? Automatic answer is why would any programmer do the job

of getting the project done right if they can use some bloated
framework that gets the job done within the impossible deadlines
expected.

The mantra I keep using is:

"We've been automating the same business processes for half a century and getting less efficient at it every year."

And we've gotten away with it because the curve of "faster computers cost less than programmer time." But we may have hit the end of that trend. We're hitting the limits of physics to the point where we have to literally pour water on the chips to keep them from burning up. A computer you bought a decade ago is still usable as long as you're not trying to do slop on it; meanwhile, the slop generator wants more compute than you can possibly give it.

[#] Mon Mar 30 2026 02:58:25 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'm a "systems" guy - my career disappeared to
Indian in the early 2000s, then the cloud drove the final stake
into it.

And that's why it's revenge time.

When the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses his job.

[#] Tue Mar 31 2026 01:41:52 UTC from Metal Maniac

Subject: New Cit

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So I just did a thing, wrote a citadel bbs from the ground up in Java. ssh bbs@games.gamesdaemondeck.com to check it out.

[#] Wed Apr 01 2026 03:10:05 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: New Cit

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ssh: Could not resolve hostname games.gamesdaemondeck.com: Name or service not known

[#] Thu Apr 02 2026 11:40:14 UTC from LoanShark

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When the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses

his job.

Unfortunately, it also costs less than you and me.

[#] Sun Apr 05 2026 11:38:55 UTC from darknetuser

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2026-04-02 11:40 from LoanShark
When the code generator costs less than the Indian, the Indian loses


his job.

Unfortunately, it also costs less than you and me.



I mentioned it in a piracy focused group, but there is a reason why so many technical people is turning to fucking farming. This is not a joke, it is a trend I am seeing.

I have been bracing for impact for about a decade already, not because I think there is such a thing as an AI apocalypse, but because the economic fabric os my country's economy and all the adjacent economies are stressed and close to the breaking point. Meaning: the reality in which nobody wants to hire you and nobody cares if you live or die is pretty much a thing already around here.

Quite frankly, if I lost all my jobs *today* I could not care less about securing an IT job these days, or any sort of qualified job. I think working for peanuts for somebody who makes three times your sallary and thinks she is better than you despite the fact she does nto know how the firm works is not a good plan anymore - I have been lucky in that I have avoided that position most of my life but that is the reality qualified jobs operate under. I think I would just walk to the nearest mid-sized village and ask if they need people for the next cereal season at this point. I would only need to make by for about 5 years.

[#] Mon Apr 06 2026 21:04:57 UTC from LoanShark

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I literally spoke to somebody on a discord and when I told him how long I had just been unemployed he was like "shit, I would have just given up and bought a farm by now."

[#] Tue Apr 07 2026 01:54:37 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Wouldn't that be remarkable ... if we went back to being an agrarian society because we got so efficient at the information society that it automated itself away.

Thankfully, software development is only a small portion of my job.

The steady-state a lot of people are hoping for is that the AI is good enough to replace Shababolipuntajab Malasubravishtarmanian the H1B or offshore code pounder who only knows how to build the exact thing you prompt him to (which is what LLM excels at) but does not ultimately replace systems architects who actually think about how to put software systems together.

Also we should totally nuke China.

[#] Tue Apr 07 2026 15:14:32 UTC from LoanShark

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2026-04-07 01:54 from IGnatius T Foobar
Wouldn't that be remarkable ... if we went back to being an agrarian
society because we got so efficient at the information society that it

automated itself away.

The Great Depression occurred in no small part because of automation-driven farm productivity improvements.

There are simply too many people for everyone to have a farm job...

[#] Tue Apr 07 2026 19:05:04 UTC from Metal Maniac

Subject: Re: New Cit

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ssh: Could not resolve hostname games.gamesdaemondeck.com: Name or

service not known

You must have hit it when I was transisioning the host name to my new VPS ip. I was initially hosting it on my windows machine via a wireguard tunnel through my old VPS since my entire network is TMOBILE, and I have not control of natting. Now it's hosted on a new VPS with way more horsepower.

To answer your question you left on the board, this is what's under the covers:
Concurrency: Java 21 Virtual Threads (Project Loom)
Network Layer: Apache MINA SSHD
Data Persistence: Nitrite NoSQL
Terminal UI: JLine3
Security: jBCrypt
Build & Version Control: Gradle & GitHub CLI
In short, itbs a modern, asynchronous micro-server dressed up in the classic, room-based aesthetics of the 80s and 90s, and soon will be open sourced on github. I'm just constantly adding features, and trying to remember how the modern versions of cit acted and looked. A nostalgia project. LOL
I could have written in pretty much any language, but I chose JAVA because it's what I have the most experience with, and it's super portable without having to recompile. Not that my Android/IOS Flutter/Dart projects don't require this, but out of all the projects this compiles way faster than any of my others on this old laptop I code on. LOL.

[#] Wed Apr 08 2026 11:41:31 UTC from Nurb432

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Id like to. But here, you cant buy farmland unless you are a billionaire wanting to take it out of the 'serf market', or part of one of those 'investment' firms seeking to destroy it.   every last bit of 'real' land is being paved over, and anything left is being reserved for the elite. ( which isn't me.. ) 

Sun Apr 05 2026 11:38:55 UTC from darknetuser
I mentioned it in a piracy focused group, but there is a reason why so many technical people is turning to fucking farming. This is not a joke, it is a trend I am seeing.



[#] Wed Apr 08 2026 17:13:52 UTC from Metal Maniac

Subject: Re: New Cit

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2026-04-07 19:05 from Metal Maniac
Subject: Re: New Cit
ssh: Could not resolve hostname games.gamesdaemondeck.com: Name or


service not known

You must have hit it when I was transisioning the host name to my new

VPS ip. I was initially hosting it on my windows machine via a
wireguard tunnel through my old VPS since my entire network is TMOBILE,

and I have not control of natting. Now it's hosted on a new VPS with

way more horsepower.

To answer your question you left on the board, this is what's under
the covers:
Concurrency: Java 21 Virtual Threads (Project Loom)
Network Layer: Apache MINA SSHD
Data Persistence: Nitrite NoSQL
Terminal UI: JLine3
Security: jBCrypt
Build & Version Control: Gradle & GitHub CLI
In short, itb s a modern, asynchronous micro-server dressed
up in the
classic, room-based aesthetics of the 80s and 90s, and soon will be
open sourced on github. I'm just constantly adding features, and trying

to remember how the modern versions of cit acted and looked. A
nostalgia project. LOL
I could have written in pretty much any language, but I chose JAVA
because it's what I have the most experience with, and it's super
portable without having to recompile. Not that my Android/IOS
Flutter/Dart projects don't require this, but out of all the projects

this compiles way faster than any of my others on this old laptop I
code on. LOL.



So it's starting to become a hybrid, now has floor support. LOL

[#] Fri Apr 10 2026 02:43:07 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Too much in this room for me to respond - but yeah, I'm down for the revenge - even if it means the Dot-Not-Feather crowd, who've already largely been replaced by Filipinos in a lot of cases, find their livelihood as destroyed as their arrival did to my career. It wasn't just them - to be fair. It was also domestic DEI initiatives. So many IT teams are dominated by women and POC now - and when I hear them talk - I can see why so much IT runs so poorly now. Something just happened - and my team, the non-technical people were complaining about it - and I forget what it was, but my first thought was, "The cloud is just someone else's computer." Basically, a web based app vendor solution has some planned maintenance - and they're doing it when they're doing it - and we explained nicely we're a healthcare company and can't afford downtime in the middle of a production day - and they told us, "tough, this is when it happens, because we serve a LOT of businesses globally, and it is most convenient at THIS time for fish a LOT bigger than you." 

I told them that would happen back when I was doing IT. They didn't listen. Now they get to experience it. 

 



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