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[#] Thu Jun 05 2014 07:38:09 UTC from the_mgt

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Yes, I know about pico, but it is the systems you ssh into, that force you to use vi. QNAP NAS devices (maybe I forgot to check for pico there), such things. OSX features both, vi and nano. I like that. 



[#] Thu Jun 05 2014 12:40:44 UTC from fleeb

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Yeah, searches in vi involve using '/'. You can search backwards with '?' if I recall. And global search-and-replace involves using a colon command, like:

:%s/search/replace/g

(% means, 'the entire document', s means 'search for text', 'search' is the term to find, 'replace' is term to change to 'search', and 'g' means 'look for other search terms to the end of the line').

Heh, did I get that right?

[#] Thu Jun 05 2014 18:50:17 UTC from dothebart

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emacs can edit files via ssh.

today i've learned about http://www.lighttable.com/

(ok, its implemented in clojure, which basicaly is a lisp interpreter running in the java interpreter...)



[#] Thu Jun 05 2014 20:18:35 UTC from fleeb

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I seem to remember someone perverse created a vi editor in emacs.

[#] Sat Jun 07 2014 18:02:17 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Lighttable web page insults the venerable 80-character TTY!  How dare they!

(Actually I run all my terminals at 132x43 now.  I wanted something bigger but I didn't just want to be ambiguous about it so I chose something that's at least a VESA mode.  But I'm a nerd.)



[#] Mon Jun 09 2014 12:37:26 UTC from fleeb

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It amuses me that someone implemented what appears to be telnet or ssh via web page, then made that available in Turnkey Linux through their Webmin interface.

Which might (maybe?) be an interesting idea for a distributable virtual machine for Citadel. Hmm...

[#] Mon Jun 23 2014 19:05:27 UTC from LoanShark

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"Weaponized Comic Sans": http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14-libressl/mgp00025.html

part of a larger presentation on OpenBSD's vote-of-no-confidence in OpenSSL (a few years too late, but appreciated nonetheless)

skip to the good bits:
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14-libressl/mgp00007.html

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 06:42:33 UTC from dothebart

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yea, finaly something is moving... maybe *ssl becomes valgrind clean one day? *dreams*



[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 13:17:26 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Great. Does that mean that OpenSSL will now become a "one version for OpenBSD and one version for everyone else" ?

They've pulled that crap before.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 13:52:07 UTC from fleeb

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They need someone dedicated to handling OpenSSL. That would take care of almost all of their problems.

Probably won't happen anytime soon.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 14:08:03 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I read through the entire presentation. Their goals are worthwhile and their approach is sensible. If they want funding they're going to have to do a better presentation than MagicPoint with Comic Sans. With any luck, LibreSSL will do to OpenSSL what Xorg did to XFree86. Eliminating any reason for GNUTLS to exist would also be a plus.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 18:17:49 UTC from dothebart

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Tue Jun 24 2014 10:08:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
I read through the entire presentation. Their goals are worthwhile and their approach is sensible. If they want funding they're going to have to do a better presentation than MagicPoint with Comic Sans. With any luck, LibreSSL will do to OpenSSL what Xorg did to XFree86. Eliminating any reason for GNUTLS to exist would also be a plus.

well, one of the most discussed removals was alternative ways for random seeds, which makes it i.e. impossible to use in putty.



[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 20:48:26 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Does 'doze not have a suitable random number generator? Anything missing from a platform should be provided by a supplemental library, not bolted into the SSL library itself and forced on everyone (especially those poor sensitive openbfd people with their perfectly secure but unusable operating system).

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 21:12:00 UTC from LoanShark

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It's bug- and feature-free. Say, does anyone have a spare ASN.1 parser kicking around? ;-p

[#] Wed Jun 25 2014 14:18:47 UTC from fleeb

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I think 'doze does have a random number generator. Unsure if it's suitable, though, heh.

[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 11:51:09 UTC from dothebart

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Maddog is digitizing his ye olde VHS-Tapes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLaN8anFyo0&feature=youtu.be

Linus talk at dec.



[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 21:40:50 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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That isn't RMS in the front left, is it? Looks like him from the back (sloppy, fat, long greasy hair) but I can't imagine the real RMS would wear a shirt that says "LINUX" nor would he allow anyone to speak the words "Linux operating system" without blurting out "TEH GNU!!! TEH GNUUUYUUUYUYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!1111"

[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 21:48:04 UTC from roue <roue@bbs.bubbanfriends.org>

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I'm pretty sure that's Maddog Hall.

[#] Wed Jul 16 2014 20:50:13 UTC from fleeb

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Hrm.

I would like to use strace to see what happens beyond daemonization, but at least on this machine, it 'finishes' with the first call to clone, despite the daemonized process continuing to run thereafter.

Not as helpful a tool for me as I wish.

While I can still use it to trace system calls on the running process, if I wanted to see wha tit was doing for the few milliseconds it was between pids, I am SOL.

[#] Wed Jul 16 2014 21:53:12 UTC from dothebart

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-f



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