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[#] Sat May 24 2014 18:56:49 EDT from Sig

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2.6GHz Pentium 4 with criminally low 512MB of RAM. This machine came to me from my grandmother, who never really used it after purchase because WinXP apparently displeased her. We're not really sure; she has pretty advanced Alzheimer's and isn't
really into answering questions these days.

Anyway, WinXP was sucking pretty bad on it, but Linux Mint Debian Edition is somewhat more responsive (and much more capable). I will see if I can scare up some more RAM.

I am, incidentally, thoroughly pissed at the computer shop that sold my grandmother an under-memoried machine with an IDE hard drive, but then put in a fairly nice (for the time) motherboard with SATA controller. All of it in a fancy-looking case
(window, LEDs, fan w/LED) for a little old lady to do her family tree software on. I don't know what they spent, but it was way more than they should have.

[#] Sun May 25 2014 17:27:01 EDT from the_mgt

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Sorry to hear that about your granny. My mum got similarly ripped off when she bought a computer at some store once. They sold her some freaky micro-atx mainboard with an amd cpu soldered onto the board. Total utter crap. Too few ram and crappy hd, too. I am currently building a new machine to replace the old machine she uses now, which is the computer my step brother gave her. DDR1 ram and AGP gpu. This new one is a c2d, 4gb ddr2 ram and a SSHD sata. Should be enough for her surfing needs.

Pentium 4 machines are only good as heating devices. If you are lucky, the socket can hold some c2d.

[#] Sun May 25 2014 19:00:19 EDT from vince-q <>

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Pentium 4 machines are only good as heating devices. If you are
lucky, the socket can hold some c2d.

Hmmm... my guess is a pentium 4 will run a reasonable linux distro just fine.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 09:41:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Once you get into the GHz range it's really more about the RAM than the CPU.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 13:20:01 EDT from zooer

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"It is more about the RAM than the CPU"... I don't know why that sounds so deep.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 16:43:08 EDT from Sig

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I'll ask around and see if anyone has compatible RAM; I'm not sure the machine is worth sinking actual money into. I think I finally got rid of my last DDR2, but I'll dig around.

Worst case, it should play DVDs and maybe handle some amateur radio stuff in my work room; that's where it is now.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 22:19:21 EDT from zooer

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Thirteen weird and wonderful niche Linux distros... including one that will run on a 386.

[#] Wed May 28 2014 23:06:31 EDT from ax25

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I don't have the real hardware any more, but thought it would be fun to torture myself with this:

Think 8086 or 8088.


[#] Thu May 29 2014 10:22:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Wow, is ELKS still an active project?

[#] Fri May 30 2014 11:35:46 EDT from ax25

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Semi active.  They seem to loose the repo now and then.  Someone makes floppy images every now and then.

[#] Tue Jun 03 2014 14:56:01 EDT from fleeb

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Today, I learned the difference between sed and ed.

Use ed for in-place edit of files.

Use sed for streaming edits across pipes.

It's entertaining to use ed for scripting edits of files.

[#] Tue Jun 03 2014 14:57:08 EDT from fleeb

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(e.g. echo ',s/foo/bar/g;w;q' | tr \; '\012' | ed -e $file )

[#] Tue Jun 03 2014 16:35:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Your nix-fu grows stronger, grasshopper. :)

Next you can learn "ex", which is basically vi without the fullscreen. Sounds silly, but if you need to pipeline a bunch of commands you already know them.

sed and awk together are powerful shell scripting tools. Perl is for weenies.

[#] Tue Jun 03 2014 16:37:47 EDT from fleeb

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I'm fortunate that I have been using vi(m) for a long time now, so a lot of those commands are actually fairly well ingrained in me. That, I've noticed, has helped me get through some of the complicated commands pretty well. They are relatively intuitive to me.

This said, I still have to look up a lot of stuff. I was originally trying to do all of this with sed instead of ed, but found that ed did the job I wanted far better.

[#] Wed Jun 04 2014 08:37:51 EDT from zooer

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I have been using vi for about three years, but only because I can't figure out how to exit.

[#] Wed Jun 04 2014 09:04:34 EDT from fleeb

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I'd probably feel similarly about emacs. I used to love emacs, though, but vi really grew on me.

[#] Wed Jun 04 2014 17:46:47 EDT from the_mgt

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I still prefer nano. I can use (and most important: exit!) vi, but I never ever cared to learn any of its alledgedly beneficial features. I'd rather describe it as "I can defend myself against *nixes which lack nano and fore me to use vi". Heck, I even do not know how to do a search in it (probably involves the /). I like how vi highlites brackets, and some things about rows it does better than nano. It is also smarter when it comes to charset conversion.

I did all my work on this current layout of citadel and all my hacking and slashing in the source in nano. In fact, I edit most html in nano, there is syntax highlighting and it is enough most of the time. Still, I am willing to give Aptana Studio a try for the next layout rework. 

[#] Wed Jun 04 2014 18:12:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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emacs is an interesting operating system but it lacks a decent text editor.

[#] Wed Jun 04 2014 20:15:25 EDT from zooer

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If nano does't work try pico, Nano is a pico clone. Nano was written at Plattsburgh State.

I use nano also but only because my old boss used it and it was default. When I ssh to godaddy I have to use

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