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[#] Tue Oct 15 2019 12:42:07 EDT from LoanShark

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I've got third row seating... if you don't mind being the body in the trunk. Which can be quite fun if you're consenting.

[#] Tue Oct 15 2019 14:36:36 EDT from LoanShark

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Flash Memory Wear Killing Older Tesla's Due to Excessive Data Logging: Report

"Because a Tesla is highly dependent on its electronics, once the flash memory in a Teslabs infotainment unit goes bad, it essentially bricks the entire car."

This apparently only applies to version 1 MCU's.

[#] Thu Oct 17 2019 08:25:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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...and of course this is what Ford II would call "progress".

All cars are basically just rolling computers these days, but some more than others.

The rental that I drove this week had way more controls on it than I cared for. Too many screens, too many buttons, and that's from someone who *likes* technology. The lane-keeping software was LITERALLY poking me in the ass when I drifted too far to either side of the lane.

[#] Thu Oct 17 2019 11:07:54 EDT from LoanShark

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I'm no fan of BMW's "twenty thousand dollar options package" approach, but I *like* that you can still order a car from them without all driver-assitance garbage. Not so with Subaru

[#] Thu Oct 17 2019 14:57:58 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Well then stop drifting in your lane. You make other people nuts with that. <GRIN>

[#] Fri Oct 18 2019 08:03:04 EDT from darknetuser

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@IGnatius T Foobar, I agree, so much electronics in machines that don't need half as much.

I have noticed that really hardcore microchipheads don't want microchips everywhere, they want microchips in places that make sense. It is hipster wannabes who want computers in every doorknob.

[#] Fri Oct 18 2019 16:46:35 EDT from zooer

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Surging SUV demand is canceling out the environmental benefit from electric cars

[#] Fri Oct 25 2019 07:04:58 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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There's a reason I keep a car from the '60s.

[#] Fri Oct 25 2019 08:47:35 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Besides the fact that you act older than the age of the car? <GRIN>

[#] Fri Oct 25 2019 09:56:19 EDT from athos-mn

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Environmental concerns aside, and I know I'm a massive outlier on this, but I generally don't get SUVs as a normal driving vehicle. They're easier to roll (I've seen plenty of those), and they're not as comfortable as normal cars. They're just bigger, and people seem to think bigger is better when it's the design of the thing that makes a vehicle safer not the size.

It also bugs that that most people use them as commuter cars and not as an actual sport utility vehicle - but that apparently just makes me picky.

[#] Mon Oct 28 2019 09:41:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yup. The wife of my asshole neighbor (think about the "Real Housewives" TV show and you won't be too far off) drives an SUV, and she's usually in it by herself. I've never seen her haul anything in it, I've never seen it come home dirty, and they clearly don't need it as the "one big vehicle in the household for hauling" because her husband owns a pickup truck.

[#] Mon Oct 28 2019 11:04:23 EDT from LoanShark

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I don't understand the "not as comfortable" comment. I went from a 2002 Outback (I know, I know, it's really a wagon) to a 2014 328i. The Subaru definitely has the more comfy suspension - because it has 2 or 3 more inches of travel to work with.

I mean, the 328i sedan is preferable in every other way besides ground clearance in the snow. But still...

SUV's handle quite well if you aren't pushing them to the limits of cornering.

[#] Mon Oct 28 2019 11:05:08 EDT from LoanShark

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That said, I am really not an SUV guy. I grew up in a family that drove Volvo station wagons and regarded SUVs as kinda wasteful.

[#] Mon Oct 28 2019 13:06:49 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Who gives a crop? Drive what you like.

I've driven big trucks and small cars. I daily drive a RAM 1500. Do I need to? Nope. Don't care.

It's comfortable and convenient. If gas mileage were more of a concern, I'd think of getting something else. But I don't really car. Maybe if gas gets back up over $4 a gallon I will. Until then, I'm happy.

[#] Tue Oct 29 2019 12:25:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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That said, I am really not an SUV guy. I grew up in a family that
drove Volvo station wagons and regarded SUVs as kinda wasteful.

My grandmother drove a Volvo station wagon for 25 years. They were built to last ... as long as you did the scheduled maintenance.

[#] Tue Oct 29 2019 12:31:23 EDT from LoanShark

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I'm not sure what the schedule means, exactly, after 200K miles or so.

And when they get to be about 25, you have to do some rather unscheduled things like inspecting for structural integrity and rust-through. My dad's cars have had the rear suspension assembly *collapse* on at least 2 occasions *that I know of.* They're around 32 years old now.

There's a reason why I don't make decisions like he does, anymore.

[#] Tue Oct 29 2019 12:32:56 EDT from LoanShark

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That said... he put 1M miles on a 122.

Which he bought from his professor in the 70s for $75-ish in 1970s dollars.

[#] Tue Oct 29 2019 19:04:44 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Volvo's do great when maintained. But the maintenance ain't cheap.

[#] Tue Oct 29 2019 19:19:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I don't know what happens after 25 years / 200000 miles either. What I know from my grandmother's experience is that if the maintenance schedule says to replace part X at 10,000 miles, part X will fail at 10,500 miles if you don't replace it ... but it will probably NOT fail any sooner.

[#] Wed Oct 30 2019 18:26:17 EDT from LoanShark

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Yeah, strange how precise those maintence schedules are. Only thing more precise is the written warranty. Things fail at 50,001 miles

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