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[#] Wed Feb 16 2022 19:55:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Fresh install... citadel.socket not found

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I do believe the Citadel packages have been removed from the latest Debian.
Major kudos to the maintainer who kept it going for a very long time. It isn't really feasible anymore though, since we have dropped support for the LFSH, and I don't think Debian allows /opt or /usr/local style installations in the main repo.

In the future I would like the text client to return to the main repo after we make it a bit more portable.

At the present time, however, the most reliable installation is the Docker container. If you can't or won't run Docker, use Easy Install.

[#] Tue Feb 22 2022 16:56:58 EST from JeepNWilly

Subject: Citadel Database Files

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Hi,

I just did an easy install into a Raspberry Pi to try and learn the system. I was wondering how would I go about changing the location of the database files so I cam move them to a larger storage device or to my NAS. Planning on using Citadel as my home based email server and did not want to have limited email space on the Pi's MicroSD card

Any help will be greatly appreciated



[#] Tue Feb 22 2022 18:18:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel Database Files

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Your data files are in /usr/local/citadel/data

You can shut down the Citadel service, move that directory somewhere else, and make /usr/local/citadel/data a symbolic link to the new location. It'll do the right thing.

If you want to do it the "fancy" way, you can look at [ https://www.citadel.org/how_may_i_improve.html ] to learn how to explicitly configure a separate location.

[#] Wed Feb 23 2022 04:07:09 EST from mrlinux2u

Subject: Spamassassin rules

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Hi,

I've just got Citadel up and running (using the easy install script) and everything's running fine except for one thing - Spamassassin, it's marking e-mails as SPAM in the e-mail headers but it's not modifying the Subject line as [****SPAM****] despite me changing the '/usr/share/spamassassin/local.cf' file accordingly (and running spamassassin --lint shows no errors in the file).

Does Citadel honour the local.cf file at all when checking e-mails for SPAM or does it have it's own internal file that needs changing?

I've tried googling for a solution but I've not found anything relevant so far, could someone point me in the right direction please if there is a solution and any help would be very much appreciated?

Regards

Paul



[#] Fri Feb 25 2022 12:02:36 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Spamassassin rules

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Citadel's integration with SpamAssassin is not capable of modifying the Subject line.

[#] Tue Mar 01 2022 08:28:48 EST from digbick

Subject: Webcit without the need of Javascript

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Hello, is there any way to modify webcit UI to get rid of all the JS and, obviously, the need of it?

Citadel could be a great work group solution for freedom fighters, dissident or rebel people who need to organize themselves. Those who live in a dictactorship, or a war situation, in example. This software could be run as a Hidden Service in the Tor network but the fact it requires JS to be usable, makes it a nay for Tor users, who actively discard using any service that makes their browser execute code.

The telnet interface is great but when they need to work with images or formatted text it is not suitable.

I have seen a couple of hidden services using Citadel but they do it as it comes, with JS on.



[#] Tue Mar 01 2022 11:33:37 EST from hansana

Subject: Configuration of Citadel with Gmail

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How do I configure my citadel email with Gmail in order to send messages using citadel email from Gmail?



[#] Thu Mar 03 2022 09:29:53 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Webcit without the need of Javascript

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Citadel could be a great work group solution for freedom fighters, dissident

or rebel people who need to organize themselves. Those who live in a
dictactorship, or a war situation, in example. This software could be run
as
a Hidden Service in the Tor network but the fact it requires JS to be usable,

makes it a nay for Tor users, who actively discard using any service that

makes their browser execute code.

You're not the first to mention this, and it's a reasonable thing to ask.
As you've probably discovered already, you can reach Uncensored on the I2P network using HTTP, Telnet, or the Citadel client. They all work, but none are ideal. A couple of people here in the community enjoy using a locally installed Citadel client because it reduces keystroke lag, but it does require a bit of setup and, as you correctly pointed out, it does not display images or any media other than text.

That having been said, we won't close the door to the idea of creating an "alternative" web client that is just straight HTTP transactions. It would basically look like the text client, but with HTML formatted output. What I have in mind is that you'd get the same user experience, and at the end of the screen there would be some simple navigation buttons.

There's even the possibility of making it integrate directly into Tor and/or I2P networks instead of requiring a proxy. We're totally open to things like that.

Do be aware, however, that the current priority is completing a new web client that is exactly the opposite, one that does *more* of its execution inside the user's web browser instead of less. Once this client reaches feature parity with its predecessor and can replace it, then we will start working on other things. Don't be discouraged, though -- the new client also brings with it a complete REST/DAV web API for the Citadel system, which will make other clients even easier to build.

[#] Fri Mar 04 2022 01:47:05 EST from pramathesh

Subject: Citadel installation and email clients

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I hope this is the correct room.

I am new to Citadel and would like to install it on a production server. I am testing it out right now on a personal computer running Linux with no public IP.

I am not able to configure the server on an email client to send and receive email. I have tried  Thunderbird. It detects the server correctly but then complains

"Unable to login at server. probably wrong configuration, username or password".

I am able to send and receive email through Mutt though.

Wonder what else I need to configure.

Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance



[#] Sat Mar 05 2022 14:33:03 EST from publicaccessDOTclub

Subject: Webcit headaches

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Hello everyone,

 

I operate a very small invite-only/application membership Pub*nix server over at publicaccess.club.

We Have recently installed a docker install of Citadel and I used apt to install Citadel-webcit since it appeared absent or needed to be installed separately.

I set webcit to run on internal alongside my Apache2 server. It’s currently set to run on ports 2000 and 2002 for http/https respectively.

I also added a virtualhost for the bbs which is directed to look at bbs.publicaccess.club.

so, it appears atleast the text message server is running, which is perfect cause thats what I was hoping for, however it doesn’t appear when in head over to bbs.publicacces.club that webcit is running at all.

Can someone kindly help me?

 

Thanks!



[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 00:07:18 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: Webcit headaches

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Are you putting "https:/bbs.publicaccess.club:2002" in the URL? 

Sat Mar 05 2022 14:33:03 EST from publicaccessDOTclub Subject: Webcit headaches

Hello everyone,

 

I operate a very small invite-only/application membership Pub*nix server over at publicaccess.club.

We Have recently installed a docker install of Citadel and I used apt to install Citadel-webcit since it appeared absent or needed to be installed separately.

I set webcit to run on internal alongside my Apache2 server. It’s currently set to run on ports 2000 and 2002 for http/https respectively.

I also added a virtualhost for the bbs which is directed to look at bbs.publicaccess.club.

so, it appears atleast the text message server is running, which is perfect cause thats what I was hoping for, however it doesn’t appear when in head over to bbs.publicacces.club that webcit is running at all.

Can someone kindly help me?

 

Thanks!



 



[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 08:13:28 EST from lleandrobs

Subject: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

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Hello,

I've got a strange problem.. I'm running Citadel since a few years now and suddenly the sending of mails stopped to work (since last Wednesday I guess).
I do receive mails but when I send a mail I receive a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" after a few hours telling me that

A message you sent has not been delivered to some or all of its recipients.
Citadel will continue attempting delivery for five days.
The following addresses were undeliverable:

xxx@protonmail.com: 421 ()


A netcat on port 25 is working, so the port isn't blocked by my ISP and the last time I changed a firewall rule is long ago.

I run citadel on a Raspberry Pi 4 (Buster).
citserver: Version 949 (build fbd0e65f9) ***

Did anyone experience this?


[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 11:10:32 EST from JeepNWilly

Subject: Re: Citadel Database Files

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Tue Feb 22 2022 18:18:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Citadel Database Files
Your data files are in /usr/local/citadel/data

You can shut down the Citadel service, move that directory somewhere else, and make /usr/local/citadel/data a symbolic link to the new location. It'll do the right thing.

If you want to do it the "fancy" way, you can look at [ https://www.citadel.org/how_may_i_improve.html ] to learn how to explicitly configure a separate location.

Thank you for your help



[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 14:51:01 EST from lleandrobs

Subject: Re: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

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Mon Mar 07 2022 08:13:28 EST from lleandrobs Subject: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

Hello,

I've got a strange problem.. I'm running Citadel since a few years now and suddenly the sending of mails stopped to work (since last Wednesday I guess).
I do receive mails but when I send a mail I receive a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" after a few hours telling me that

A message you sent has not been delivered to some or all of its recipients.
Citadel will continue attempting delivery for five days.
The following addresses were undeliverable:

xxx@protonmail.com: 421 ()


A netcat on port 25 is working, so the port isn't blocked by my ISP and the last time I changed a firewall rule is long ago.

I run citadel on a Raspberry Pi 4 (Buster).
citserver: Version 949 (build fbd0e65f9) ***

Did anyone experience this?


 

 

I want to try a different smart host but I can't figure out the correct syntax. In the documentation is this:

https://www.citadel.org/relay.html

 [smtp[s]://][username:password@]host[:port]


But my problem is the username is "username@xxx.com". How to write it correctly?
I tried this:
smtps://username@xxx.com:password@mail.xxx.com:465

But it doesn't seem to work. Does someone know how to write it correctly?

 



[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 15:51:10 EST from s3cr3to to lleandrobs <lleandrobs@uncensored.citadel.org>, Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

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From another post with the suject "Re: SMTP Relay as Smarthost" I found this:

According to [ https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609888/how-to-escape-in-curl-command-password-field
] the libcurl library allows you to use URL escapes, so if your username has
a @ in it you might try changing that to %40 , something like this: 
  
 smtp://user%40example.com:password@example.smtp.com:587 
  
 Citadel uses libcurl to send mail, so whatever is valid for libcurl will
be valid for Citadel. 

Thank you AJC for the answer


On 3/7/22 12:51, lleandrobs wrote:

 

Mon Mar 07 2022 08:13:28 EST from lleandrobs Subject: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

Hello,

I've got a strange problem.. I'm running Citadel since a few years now and suddenly the sending of mails stopped to work (since last Wednesday I guess).
I do receive mails but when I send a mail I receive a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" after a few hours telling me that

A message you sent has not been delivered to some or all of its recipients.
Citadel will continue attempting delivery for five days.
The following addresses were undeliverable:

xxx@protonmail.com: 421 ()


A netcat on port 25 is working, so the port isn't blocked by my ISP and the last time I changed a firewall rule is long ago.

I run citadel on a Raspberry Pi 4 (Buster).
citserver: Version 949 (build fbd0e65f9) ***

Did anyone experience this?


 

 

I want to try a different smart host but I can't figure out the correct syntax. In the documentation is this:

https://www.citadel.org/relay.html

 [smtp[s]://][username:password@]host[:port]


But my problem is the username is "username@xxx.com". How to write it correctly?
I tried this:
smtps://username@xxx.com:password@mail.xxx.com:465

But it doesn't seem to work. Does someone know how to write it correctly?

 




[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 16:00:18 EST from lleandrobs

Subject: Re: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

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Mon Mar 07 2022 15:51:10 EST from s3cr3to Subject: Re: suddenly no mail delivery anymore
From another post with the suject "Re: SMTP Relay as Smarthost" I found this:

According to [ https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609888/how-to-escape-in-curl-command-password-field
] the libcurl library allows you to use URL escapes, so if your username has
a @ in it you might try changing that to 
%40
 , something like this: 
  
 smtp://user%40example.com:password@example.smtp.com:587 
  
 Citadel uses libcurl to send mail, so whatever is valid for libcurl will
be valid for Citadel. 

 




 

Thank you, that worked!



[#] Mon Mar 07 2022 16:56:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: suddenly no mail delivery anymore

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But my problem is the username is "username@xxx.com". How to write it
correctly?
I tried this:
smtps://username@xxx.com:password@mail.xxx.com:465

But it doesn't seem to work. Does someone know how to write it
correctly?

Try escaping the first '@' character. Some systems will accept %40 instead.

smtps://username%40xxx.com:password@mail.xxx.com:465

[#] Tue Mar 08 2022 15:15:43 EST from erol.kahraman

Subject: LDAP Users

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Hi,

During installation progress i selected option two to set up a LDAP server for my users. My LDAP server is FreeIPA. I can get users with binded admin account or any other account by using ldapsearch.

 # ldapsearch -x -b "cn=users,cn=accounts,dc=test,dc=io" -h ldap.test.io -D "uid=admin,cn=users,cn=accounts,dc=test,dc=io" -W

 

However i am not able to get users and I get an errors like this;

 

# ./citserver

...

citserver[50491]: extensions: unix domain socket 'lmtp-unfiltered.socket': registered.
citserver[50491]: Existing database version on disk is 949
citserver[50491]: extensions: service DICT_TCP has been manually disabled, skipping
citserver[50491]: extensions: TCP port *:5222: (XMPP) registered.
citserver[50491]: main: changing uid to 1001
citserver[50491]: ldap: synchronizing Citadel user database from LDAP
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

The error repeats continuously and it is impossible to start server again.

 

What could be the problem? How can i get more informative output to solve the problem?



[#] Tue Mar 08 2022 15:17:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: LDAP Users

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What could be the problem? How can i get more informative output to
solve the problem?

Run it in the debugger and get a backtrace.

gdb ./citserver
run -x9

[ wait for it to crash... ]

bt

[ post the output ]

[#] Tue Mar 08 2022 15:26:29 EST from erol.kahraman

Subject: Re: LDAP Users

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...

citserver[50602]: ldap: synchronizing Citadel user database from LDAP
citserver[50602]: sysdep: new client socket 36
citserver[50602]: context: session (citadel-UDS) started from  () uid=0
citserver[50602]: [(not logged in)(0)] MSGP application/x-citadel-delivery-list|text/calendar|application/ics|text/vnote|text/x-vcard|text/vcard|text/html|text/plain|text/x-citadel-variformat|text/x-markdown
citserver[50602]: [(not logged in)(0)] USER admin
citserver[50602]: user_ops: cmd_user(admin)
citserver[50602]: user_ops: CtdlLoginExistingUser(admin)
citserver[50602]: ldap: search: (&(objectclass=posixAccount)(cn=admin))
citserver[50602]: ldap: search: (objectClass=inetOrgPerson)
citserver[50602]: ldap: No such user was found.
citserver[50602]: [(not logged in)(0)] MESG hello
citserver[50602]: ldap: 1 entries returned
citserver[50602]: ldap: found uid=erol.kahraman,cn=users,cn=accounts,dc=test,dc=io

Thread 2 "citserver" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7ffff46be700 (LWP 50607)]
0x00005555555e328f in derive_fullname_from_ldap_result (fullname=0x7ffff46bd440 "", fullname_size=256, ldserver=0x7ffff0005400,
    search_result=0x7ffff0005eb0) at ldap.c:52
52      ldap.c: No such file or directory.

Tue Mar 08 2022 15:17:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: LDAP Users
What could be the problem? How can i get more informative output to
solve the problem?

Run it in the debugger and get a backtrace.

gdb ./citserver
run -x9

[ wait for it to crash... ]

bt

[ post the output ]

 



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