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[#] Sun May 16 2021 20:05:35 EDT from zooer

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That is good to know, I wanted to try it as I have several phones that are no longer being updated.

 



[#] Sun May 16 2021 20:19:53 EDT from Nurb432

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YMMV, some like the outcome, and it does work, i just wasn't really happy with it.

1 the phone ran hot with the camera on constantly

2 Had to deal with power 

3 field of view was not great for a security cam.  Its fine for taking pictures, but didnt work out for that use.  motion sensitivity, wasn't so hot either.

4 the app i was using, ended up starting to popup ads, which was annoying ( sure, could have paid, or found another... but with the other 'issues' i gave up and bought some real cameras, with motion sensor and IR )

Sun May 16 2021 08:05:35 PM EDT from zooer

That is good to know, I wanted to try it as I have several phones that are no longer being updated.

 



 



[#] Mon May 17 2021 00:55:09 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Same here. Easier to just buy a commercial product. They overheat, they shut down, freeze. It just doesn't work out well. It would be great if it did. Cheap high-quality webcams from obsolete equipment. 

 

Sun May 16 2021 14:48:55 EDT from Nurb432

i tired making a security camera out of one of mine, wasn't really happy with the results 



 



[#] Mon May 17 2021 16:22:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I tried it too a couple of years ago, not happy at all with the results. It works, but good luck making it work unattended on a permanent basis. Maybe if you could change the ROM on the phone to load a dedicated camera software image. But with stock Android you're going to have to keep going back to the device to kick it back into gear.

[#] Mon May 17 2021 17:21:05 EDT from Nurb432

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I dont know details, but Samsung is offering IoT ROMs for some of their out of production/support phones.

I had forgot about that until just now. Might be worth looking at, if you have samsung. 

 

Mon May 17 2021 04:22:42 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I tried it too a couple of years ago, not happy at all with the results. It works, but good luck making it work unattended on a permanent basis. Maybe if you could change the ROM on the phone to load a dedicated camera software image. But with stock Android you're going to have to keep going back to the device to kick it back into gear.

 



[#] Mon May 17 2021 18:35:15 EDT from zooer

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I had a security camera a while ago, T-link I believe, stand-alone unit, connected to the web.  You just had to find some camera app and then point it to your IP address and port of the camera.  I liked the camera, I think I had one issue with it, I don't remember the details.  I saw they had a firmware update, and that was the last time the camera worked.  I could get to the web interface but all menus options gave an error, bad gateway or some error. Without the web interface I couldn't flash the firmware anymore.  Master reset didn't help.

I would like a camera that I didn't have to use someone else's server (paid or not) to use the camera... but I think those days are over.

 



[#] Mon May 17 2021 18:44:00 EDT from Nurb432

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Might be if you buy 'packaged' cameras. But, its simple to build one out of an ESP32 or RPI for almost nothing. But, you dont get those convenient phone apps.

just watch it if you use a RPI nano, OEM camera and an OEM case, and wrap the camera ribbon cable around to the back to fit it all together. The back side of the cable is not insulated, and when you short out the power supply leads on the RPI putting it into the case after testing, bad tings happen.   Good thing they are cheap. Grumble. 



[#] Tue May 18 2021 10:23:30 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Mine was rooted - with a custom ROM... an old Droid 1. Still had the same problems. 

 

The Droid 1 and 2 were fine phones. Terrible security cams, though. :) 

 

 

Mon May 17 2021 16:22:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I tried it too a couple of years ago, not happy at all with the results. It works, but good luck making it work unattended on a permanent basis. Maybe if you could change the ROM on the phone to load a dedicated camera software image. But with stock Android you're going to have to keep going back to the device to kick it back into gear.

 



[#] Tue May 18 2021 13:09:07 EDT from Nurb432

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The ROMs im talking about are *dedicated* to IoT.   so i assume *all* they can do is read their sensors and transmit.   So less cruft might mean more stable. i donno. Not going to break mine.  They are old, dont use them but they still work as voip if i was in a bind. And my note 3 i use in my VR  headset.  

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-launches-software-update-to-turn-older-galaxy-phones-into-iot-devices/



[#] Tue May 18 2021 14:06:34 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I used to have a lot of older Android devices around - I guess I still do. I've got an edge 7 and a note 4.... and I think the Droid 1 is still somewhere in my pile of "it might be good for something someday" stuff. 

Give it a shot. I hope it works for you - and you would certain think the more basic the ROM is - the better odds you have of having it run better. 

 

Tue May 18 2021 13:09:07 EDT from Nurb432

The ROMs im talking about are *dedicated* to IoT.   so i assume *all* they can do is read their sensors and transmit.   So less cruft might mean more stable. i donno. Not going to break mine.  They are old, dont use them but they still work as voip if i was in a bind. And my note 3 i use in my VR  headset.  

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-launches-software-update-to-turn-older-galaxy-phones-into-iot-devices/



 



[#] Tue May 18 2021 14:50:13 EDT from Nurb432

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Not me, i wont risk breaking my devices now when i have real cameras. And ESPs are 10 bucks.. 



[#] Wed May 19 2021 04:17:46 EDT from darknetuser

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I would like a camera that I didn't have to use someone else's server

(paid or not) to use the camera... but I think those days are over.


 


I have been told some cheap Chinesse camera manufacturer was saving the video feed in their own servers for nefarious purposes. Whether this is true or not, it comes to show how dangerous these things can be.

A security firm nearby who is quite serious about this stuff is making their own cameras with RPi camera modules and some SBC. If you just want to be able to check on your hamster on your phone I guess a raspberry camera would do and not be expensive at that.

[#] Wed May 19 2021 10:24:22 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I think recording is a double edged sword. It can protect you, or it can be used against you, depending on the situation. Dashcams are a great example of this - and I don't think it really matters tremendously in MOST cases if the video is "cloud" stored or locally controlled. 

If you get in an accident, you're at fault, and it is bad enough that they're going to look at the video - it is likely that the camera has been confiscated and its contents searched under a subpoena before you can intervene. Even if you are able to intervene - you'll get hit with tampering with evidence. 

In-home cams are potentially different - depending on where they are located. 

But my RING doesn't worry me. My Dlink in my garage doesn't worry me. I'm not sure what kind of nefarious purposes a hacker or foreign bad actor would get up to with that.  

Wed May 19 2021 04:17:46 EDT from darknetuser
I would like a camera that I didn't have to use someone else's server

(paid or not) to use the camera... but I think those days are over.


 


I have been told some cheap Chinesse camera manufacturer was saving the video feed in their own servers for nefarious purposes. Whether this is true or not, it comes to show how dangerous these things can be.

A security firm nearby who is quite serious about this stuff is making their own cameras with RPi camera modules and some SBC. If you just want to be able to check on your hamster on your phone I guess a raspberry camera would do and not be expensive at that.

 



[#] Wed May 19 2021 11:27:14 EDT from Nurb432

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If you record it locally, keep it encrypted, then its your choice to give it out or not.



[#] Wed May 19 2021 12:41:42 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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You're in the same jam. Either they want it bad enough to put the full might of the NSA to bear on you... 

Or they'll hold you in contempt and jailed indefinitely until you give them the passkey. 

"Fine - you don't have to show us - but you can rot in your cell until you do - and eventually we'll have the computing power to slice through your algorithm like a hot knife through butter."

 

Wed May 19 2021 11:27:14 EDT from Nurb432

If you record it locally, keep it encrypted, then its your choice to give it out or not.



 



[#] Wed May 19 2021 13:19:38 EDT from Nurb432

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It wasn't recording. See, no files. ( verycrypt hidden )

Here is the key ( to a different file system ) darn, nothing got recorded

Shoot, you tried 3 times, its all been auto purged.

Its in cloud. i dont have the password. never had to worry about that before, man im stupid and should have thought ahead. 



[#] Wed May 19 2021 19:21:08 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Maybe with your local podunk PD. But even they have gotten pretty sophisticated with cybercrime - especially in major metro areas. 

 



[#] Thu May 27 2021 17:11:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I think it's safe to assume that if your DVR has "cloud" capabilities, the Bad People are using it to spy on you.  At the very least, "lawful intercept" (which is now "whenever they feel like it intercept") would have access.

I don't have security cameras.  I think about it once in a while.  I suppose the analog systems are secure if you don't attach the DVR to the Internet, or perhaps to an isolated segment that doesn't have outbound access, but then you have to run cables to every camera instead of just hooking into the nearest available ethernet (or wifi).  For a truly secure IP-based system, you probably have to roll your own to keep Winnie Xi Pooh away from it.

Of course, my wife still has the damn Facebook app on her phone, so the Bad People are already listening in on our conversations anyway.



[#] Thu May 27 2021 17:22:45 EDT from Nurb432

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For cameras that watch the *outside* i honestly dont care if they are seen by others.  So they hack in and see cars drive up and down the street. Or the postal girl walk past. And my bushes. Perhaps an occasional bug fly past and set off the motion sensor.  My front lawn is public view anyway, if one really cares to sit on our street and watch.

Anything i might have inside to watch the dogs or something, would be home-built.   Back yard, same thing.



[#] Fri May 28 2021 01:12:41 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I've got a Ring. It is convenient - I've got 3 internal webcams. One in my garage, so I can check if I left the door open or not, one in the kitchen, that is directional, so I can control where it points, and most of the time it points at something uninteresting. 

If they're going to listen in, let 'em. I'm not plotting anything. 

 

And I have physical access to the power switch on the surge suppressors. 

 



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