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[#] Mon May 10 2021 23:46:18 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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People buying most digital content make no sense to me. 

 

Fri Apr 30 2021 17:42:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
And as long as people keep buying it, they'll keep doing it.
Think of all the things people are paying monthly for now that they could own forever not too long ago.

 



[#] Mon May 10 2021 23:48:18 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Always keep one cheap Apple device around - an iPad, iPod or iPhone. Just for this bullshit. 

 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 08:44:35 EDT from Nurb432

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I do have my old iphone 3 in a box. somewhere.  ( not that i need it or was going to use it again, i hate tossing stuff i paid dearly for :) )

I have my 2 old iPods too, same reason.  Of course they wont login to anything.  They were the only reason i had a personal account, freaking iTunes. ( until i figured out how to add/remove songs without it ).  Another thing that pissed me off was with my Gen3 iPod: You *had* to plug it into the OEM fire-wire power adapter to erase it, but you could use regular USB to charge/update.  Really? wtf?

Mon May 10 2021 11:48:18 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Always keep one cheap Apple device around - an iPad, iPod or iPhone. Just for this bullshit. 

 



 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 10:49:48 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Yup. Apple has become more and more onerous the more secure they've become in their position. 

Are the iPod touches or iPod classics? An iPod Touch, you should be able to set up Wifi and set it up to be a "recovery" device. I forgot how I figured out my Apple password this time around - I think that the original recover is the tricksy part - because you've got to have a machine that can get in. I know it is a nightmare. 

 

 

Tue May 11 2021 08:44:35 EDT from Nurb432

I do have my old iphone 3 in a box. somewhere.  ( not that i need it or was going to use it again, i hate tossing stuff i paid dearly for :) )

I have my 2 old iPods too, same reason.  Of course they wont login to anything.  They were the only reason i had a personal account, freaking iTunes. ( until i figured out how to add/remove songs without it ).  Another thing that pissed me off was with my Gen3 iPod: You *had* to plug it into the OEM fire-wire power adapter to erase it, but you could use regular USB to charge/update.  Really? wtf?

Mon May 10 2021 11:48:18 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Always keep one cheap Apple device around - an iPad, iPod or iPhone. Just for this bullshit. 

 



 



 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 12:31:44 EDT from Nurb432

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The pods have no connectivity.  They are far too old for that.  One is a Gen3 classic ( with a HD, pre-flash ) and a gen 1 nano ( i think that is what they called it )

I ended up with a sansa and tossed them both in a box. Up until my phones had enough space to replace that. Was using a mini-disk before the iPod, but suddenly going from that to something like 20 gig.. was a wonderful thing.  And the interface really wasn't bad for a simple music player, so i give them credit for that.  The sansa, was similar, but had too many extra menu entries. BUT it was a simple copy files affair.. and could be expanded and beat on since no moving parts.

Sort of wish i had kept my creative labs device .. the one that used a parallel port to load it.  I was a super early adopter of mp3.



[#] Tue May 11 2021 15:35:29 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Me too. 

Tue May 11 2021 12:31:44 EDT from Nurb432

The pods have no connectivity.  They are far too old for that.  One is a Gen3 classic ( with a HD, pre-flash ) and a gen 1 nano ( i think that is what they called it )

I ended up with a sansa and tossed them both in a box. Up until my phones had enough space to replace that. Was using a mini-disk before the iPod, but suddenly going from that to something like 20 gig.. was a wonderful thing.  And the interface really wasn't bad for a simple music player, so i give them credit for that.  The sansa, was similar, but had too many extra menu entries. BUT it was a simple copy files affair.. and could be expanded and beat on since no moving parts.

Sort of wish i had kept my creative labs device .. the one that used a parallel port to load it.  I was a super early adopter of mp3.



 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 15:43:25 EDT from Nurb432

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Ok memory is getting to me i guess. not creative, but diamond.. same sort of company tho

 

Diamond Rio



[#] Tue May 11 2021 22:18:37 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Yup. These came later. Creative was first out of the gate - and I loved the Zen. 30mb HD - actual hard drive. They were way ahead of the curve. But like lots of companies from back then that were way ahead of the curve - it wasn't the best place to be. 

 

Tue May 11 2021 15:43:25 EDT from Nurb432

Ok memory is getting to me i guess. not creative, but diamond.. same sort of company tho

 

Diamond Rio



 



[#] Wed May 12 2021 00:34:59 EDT from ASCII Express

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The Sansa can run Rockbox, which has a primitive but usable speech synthesizer. It saved me on at least one trip. I had an iPhone for a long time and hated putting music on it because of iTunes. Switching to Android made that a lot easier obviously.

[#] Wed May 12 2021 10:35:28 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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iTunes is unreasonably difficult with moving music around. Otherwise they would truly have the market locked up. 

Their method does make it trouble free for the totally incompetent, though. 

It always amazes me that Millennials think we're technologically illiterate because they *really* understand iDevices. 

"Yeah, that is technology MY generation and the Boomers dumbed down so that your knuckle dragging, mouth-breathing generation wouldn't bother us for technical support 24x7. You figured out Reddit? Good for you. Here is your participation trophy... now go off somewhere and do some common core math..." 

 

Wed May 12 2021 00:34:59 EDT from ASCII Express
The Sansa can run Rockbox, which has a primitive but usable speech synthesizer. It saved me on at least one trip. I had an iPhone for a long time and hated putting music on it because of iTunes. Switching to Android made that a lot easier obviously.

 



[#] Wed May 12 2021 14:34:23 EDT from Nurb432

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I dont know if it works now ( i doubt it ) but there was a 3rd party tool that let you load songs onto iPods just like any other mp3 player. As soon as i found it, gone was iTunes for me.  But once i dropped the iPod, i never looked back, so it may not be doable now.

 

Wed May 12 2021 12:34:59 AM EDT from ASCII Express
The Sansa can run Rockbox, which has a primitive but usable speech synthesizer. It saved me on at least one trip. I had an iPhone for a long time and hated putting music on it because of iTunes. Switching to Android made that a lot easier obviously.

 



[#] Wed May 12 2021 14:37:01 EDT from Nurb432

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LOL ya. 

More than once "um, before you accuse me of being old and tech-ignorant you little wet behind the ears twit, you do realize that the tech you are using right now, MY generation created, right?

Wed May 12 2021 10:35:28 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

"Yeah, that is technology MY generation and the Boomers dumbed down so that your knuckle dragging, mouth-breathing generation wouldn't bother us for technical support 24x7. You figured out Reddit? Good for you. Here is your participation trophy... now go off somewhere and do some common core math..." 

 



[#] Wed May 12 2021 16:23:21 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I had one of these solutions once, too. The problem with solutions like these are that they're a cat and mouse game of Apple breaking it, and the developer fixing it, and Apple breaking it again. 

All in the quest to "enhance end user security and experience." 

 

Wed May 12 2021 14:34:23 EDT from Nurb432

I dont know if it works now ( i doubt it ) but there was a 3rd party tool that let you load songs onto iPods just like any other mp3 player. As soon as i found it, gone was iTunes for me.  But once i dropped the iPod, i never looked back, so it may not be doable now.

 

Wed May 12 2021 12:34:59 AM EDT from ASCII Express
The Sansa can run Rockbox, which has a primitive but usable speech synthesizer. It saved me on at least one trip. I had an iPhone for a long time and hated putting music on it because of iTunes. Switching to Android made that a lot easier obviously.

 



 



[#] Wed May 12 2021 16:23:47 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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💯👍

Wed May 12 2021 14:37:01 EDT from Nurb432

LOL ya. 

More than once "um, before you accuse me of being old and tech-ignorant you little wet behind the ears twit, you do realize that the tech you are using right now, MY generation created, right?

 


[#] Wed May 12 2021 17:01:55 EDT from Nurb432

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Advantage to the old gen iPods is they would not get updates..  so whatever worked once worked forever. 

Wed May 12 2021 04:23:21 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

I had one of these solutions once, too. The problem with solutions like these are that they're a cat and mouse game of Apple breaking it, and the developer fixing it, and Apple breaking it again. 

All in the quest to "enhance end user security and experience." 

 

 

 



[#] Sat May 15 2021 23:37:12 EDT from ASCII Express

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2021-05-12 16:23 from ParanoidDelusions
I had one of these solutions once, too. The problem with solutions
like these are that they're a cat and mouse game of Apple breaking
it, and the developer fixing it, and Apple breaking it again. 

Yup, a cat and mouse game, exactly. I wrote an iOS app for a company, then used some of the money I made from it to buy an Android phone and never looked back. Now I can use rsync.

[#] Sun May 16 2021 09:37:28 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Well... if they can't break it on the side of your HARDWARE with an UPDATE... 

They break it on the side of there servers with a change that your hardware can't be updated to support. 

They've got you either way. 

 

Wed May 12 2021 17:01:55 EDT from Nurb432

Advantage to the old gen iPods is they would not get updates..  so whatever worked once worked forever. 

Wed May 12 2021 04:23:21 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

I had one of these solutions once, too. The problem with solutions like these are that they're a cat and mouse game of Apple breaking it, and the developer fixing it, and Apple breaking it again. 

All in the quest to "enhance end user security and experience." 

 

 

 



 



[#] Sun May 16 2021 09:41:00 EDT from Nurb432

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Agreed with modern devices, but these had zero connectivity, there was no server side to hose you.  Back then we didnt have nearly universal data, or unlimited bandwidth to do such a thing.   Yet another 'simpler time' discussion :) 

Tho, those sorts of devices still do exist, just have to get them from china.  Dedicated players. 

 

Old android phones, are great for it too.

Sun May 16 2021 09:37:28 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Well... if they can't break it on the side of your HARDWARE with an UPDATE... 

They break it on the side of there servers with a change that your hardware can't be updated to support. 

They've got you either way. 

 


[#] Sun May 16 2021 14:48:55 EDT from Nurb432

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i tired making a security camera out of one of mine, wasn't really happy with the results 



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