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<p>Firefox becoming an evil AI agent is not a threat.</p>
<p>Because nobody actually uses Firefox anymore.</p>
<p>And even nobodier nobody still considers Mozilla to be the scrappy upstart fighting for the common man's sovereignty on the web.  That train left the station a <em>long</em> time ago.   Mozilla is just another "foundation" that launders money for activism while pretending to be supporting open software.   Fuck mozilla.  I hope Google stops funding them and they wither and die.</p>
<p>There is only one hero right now and his name is Brendan Eich.</p>
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<p>So i guess Firefox is getting on the AI bandwagon and wants to integrate it with a lot of features.. Ok, everyone else is too.  But they also realize not everyone wants it, so are adding a 'kill switch' that will instantly disable it all.  Yet "people" are bashing them heavily and saying they should be put out of the market due to "pushing AI"   i smell a rat.. FUD in full force.</p>
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<p>So let's go ahead and take that apart.</p>
<p>Among the technobabble pundits, the phrase "Web 2.0" was being bandied about. Among web developers, the phrase "AJAX" was being used to describe web sites that could update portions of the screen instead of reloading the entire screen. Multi-megabit Internet access for consumers was just beginning to emerge. These were the things that really made the difference in turning the web into a true application platform instead of just an information retrieval system. This was the dream of Marc Andreessen writ large: that the Web would replace Windows as the common delivery platform for applications.</p>
<p>Designs were functional, innovative, and user-driven. There was still a bit of "wild west" in the air, before everyone got herded onto the cattle car to the same four websites, happily accepting the algorithm. Frameworks, surveillance, design-by-committee — same shit, different masters. So if you want to call 2000–2015 the "peak" ... there's a case to be made. It was the last time the mainstream web truly belonged to its builders.</p>
<p>But as you've heard from me countless times before, I refuse to be black-pilled. Here, under the radar of the Nazis of Silicon Valley, the dream is still alive. Through distributed networks, darknets, and other non-mainstream means, we real people are still getting it done — outside the roar of the mainstream, just like we did in the BBS days.</p>
<p><em>And isn't that the point?</em></p>
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<p>Yes, we did.</p>
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<p>No, but in the old days of the web everyone did.</p>
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<p>You have a guestbook?</p>
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<p>The mid or late 2000s to the early 2010s were the peak of website design.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Change my mind.</p>
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<p>If only. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jul 01 2025 22:43:40 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">The more the empire tightens its grip, the more star systems slip through its fingers. </div>
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its fingers. 
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<p>The lock-in is quite powerful. And their shady tactics to keep people inside.. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>TThu Jun 26 2025 12:47:57 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news</span></div>
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<p>It's hard to imagine the big garden population at anything other than its peak right now.  If anything, it's getting ready to shrink as distrust in Big Tech is finally starting to wane.</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>It's hard to imagine the big garden population at anything other than its peak right now.  If anything, it's getting ready to shrink as distrust in Big Tech is finally starting to wane.</p>
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<p>Perhaps not here, but in general as the population shrinks that are not living in the big garden, it does trickle down to the rest of us. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Jun 13 2025 17:56:06 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news</span></div>
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<p>Eventually the Streisand Effect kicks in.  And at that point the more you try to make something disappear, the more publicity it gets.</p>
<p>And anyway, why should we care about the people who use Google and Facebook?  They're boring NPCs who drink Bud Light and get molested by Disney characters.  We want the people who can think.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>Eventually the Streisand Effect kicks in.  And at that point the more you try to make something disappear, the more publicity it gets.</p>
<p>And anyway, why should we care about the people who use Google and Facebook?  They're boring NPCs who drink Bud Light and get molested by Disney characters.  We want the people who can think.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Related to someting i posted in google..   </p>
<p>Even now it wont be possible in the 'bigger picture'. Google can, and does, filter anything they want, and FB, same. All one needs to do is piss them off and you effectively vanish.  And as i said in the other thread, sure, there are ways around this ( for now ), but when 90% of the people don't know about them its the same result and remain nearly non-existent.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Apr 29 2025 17:02:39 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Right. And we are on I2P [uncensored.i2p] for the benefit of those who need to remain anonymous. I'm thinking more in terms of non-anonymous on the clearnet but outside of the reach of goolag and fecesbook. Think of it more like a world of ham radio operators -- completely traceable, but Clear Channel can't mess with them. <br /><br />It's a half baked idea, to be sure. </div>
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to remain anonymous.  I'm thinking more in terms of non-anonymous on the clearnet
but outside of the reach of goolag and fecesbook.  Think of it more like a
world of ham radio operators -- completely traceable, but Clear Channel can't
mess with them. 
  
 It's a half baked idea, to be sure. 
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<p>They call that TOR, or i2p, or similar. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Apr 28 2025 04:26:50 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"> below the radar of big tech. </div>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=2099518360</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:52:59 -0000</pubDate><title>Re: search.citadel.org news</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099518360@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[By the way, you can find lots of interesting search engines by looking at
the list of search engines supported by 4get. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=2099518359</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:51:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Re: search.citadel.org news</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099518359@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2025-04-28 04:26 from IGnatius T Foobar       
 >Subject: Re: search.citadel.org news      
 >Well then I guess it's good that I get the latest SearxNG updates      

 >because the big search engines probably don't enjoy being scraped by   
   
 >someone who isn't going to serve ads to the user, and I'm guessing they
     
 >do an arms race thing there too.       
 >        
 > I feel like there ought to be some sort of network for all the people 
     
 >like us running small services below the radar of big tech.       
 >       
 >      
      
 Lots of search engines are hobby projects with meaningful sophistication.
Definitively not up to the standards of comercial search engines, but they
have their own strengths and some of them have public apis for you do do your
scrapping because why the fuck not. Geeks have to stand together, right? 
   
    
 Marginalia is an interesting one
because they try to index hobby sites only. When using it, you have the option
to exclude sites with adware, cookies, or javascript. They also exclude AI
generated content if the filter gets enabled. And they have an api.   
  
 Wiby is like the extremist version. Only pure minimalistic hobby sites get
indexed, period. It is fun to use if you want to find random stuff that does
not show up in regular searches. 
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the big search engines probably don't enjoy being scraped by someone who isn't
going to serve ads to the user, and I'm guessing they do an arms race thing
there too. 
  
 I feel like there ought to be some sort of network for all the people like
us running small services below the radar of big tech. 
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 >SaaS product, but it isn't a SaaS product.  I like that.     
 >     
 >    
    
 I am the sort of weird guy who likes to deploy his updates semi-manually
- this is, I use a configuration manager to line up the upgrades I want to
do and then I trigger them all across all the affected hosts. I like to know
what I am upgrading and when, because some of the applications I use are the
sort that might get worst when you upgrade them. Heck, some of them I keep
a custom branch for in a local versioning system because I outright maintain
parched versions because the upstream ones are so broken.   
  
 For services that are upgrade-critical, ie. they will only work if you are
running the most recent version, I use Watchtower. This applies to hobby services
such as Youtube frontends, for example. YouTube introduces breaking
changes to their service every now and then in order to break unofficial frontends,
so the only way to keep a good uptime and keep up with the arms race is to
run the lattest release of your frontend. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=2099517624</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2025 17:54:08 -0000</pubDate><title>search.citadel.org news</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099517624@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Having recently discovered Watchtower, I installed it on my Docker host. 
It automatically upgrades containers to the latest version whenever a new
version is published on Docker Hub. 
  
 That means that our favorite search engine at https://search.citadel.org
is, and will continue to be, powered by the very latest version of SearxNG
available.  In fact, it just updated a couple of hours ago. 
  
 Imagine that ... seeing new updates appear like magic, like it's a SaaS product,
but it isn't a SaaS product.  I like that. 
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<p>Hey, I'm happy y'all are using "my" search engine.  Someday I might add some citadel.org branding to it, and maybe use it to draw attention to Uncensored as well, but it will always be searxng based.  Share and Enjoy.</p>
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<p>Who is to say you are not one in the same? Have we ever seen you both in the same place at the same time? Hmm, makes you wonder..</p>
<p>*insert scary music here*</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jan 26 2025 00:39:32 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Advanced Syntax</span></div>
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<br />I am not the one hosting the instance, that would be IGnatius T Foobar :P </div>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=2099506043</link><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2025 00:39:32 -0000</pubDate><title>Re: Advanced Syntax</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099506043@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2025-01-24 16:31 from TheInnkeeper   
 >Subject: Re: Advanced Syntax  
 >Good points. And extremely interesting. I hadn't thought about  
 >it like that. Some of the engines were indeed honoring my  
 >request to remove the unwanted results. Neat. Thanks! And thank  
 >you again for hosting the search. I use it by default now.    
 >  
 >   
 >  
  
 I am not the one hosting the instance, that would be IGnatius T Foobar :P

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<p>Good points. And extremely interesting. I hadn't thought about it like that. Some of the engines were indeed honoring my request to remove the unwanted results. Neat. Thanks! And thank you again for hosting the search. I use it by default now. </p>
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 > IGnatius T Foobar, are there any parameters for the search      
 >engine that would allow excluding certain words from the      
 >results? Such as trying to search for "cyberpunk news" minus      
 >anything with 2077 in the results? (The video game has made it      
 >difficult to search for that without over saturating the      
 >results.) I tried "cyberpunk news -2077" and "cyberpunk news NOT      
 >2077" with little effect, although the former seems to try to      
 >remove it a little from the first couple of results. I looked      
 >briefly at the documentation, and weeding out the results was      
 >not there.        
 >      
 >       
 >      
      
 As far as I am aware, SearxNG does not support so called "advanced syntax".
It will pass your query straight to the backend engines. Some of them might
honor an attempt at advanced
syntax (ie. -2077) and some other wont.     
    
 If you want to perform a laser focused query, your best option is to switch
the engines that are giving you bad results for your queries off. For example,you
might turn duckduckgo and brave off and try with cyberpunk new -2077 with
the rest of the backends.   
  
 Keep in mind SearxNG is a metasearch engine which is designed to find wide
general information. If you are carrying out laser focused searches I think
it is a bit better to use stuff such as 4get, which is described in Linux
Magazine #291. 
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<p> IGnatius T Foobar, are there any parameters for the search engine that would allow excluding certain words from the results? Such as trying to search for "cyberpunk news" minus anything with 2077 in the results? (The video game has made it difficult to search for that without over saturating the results.) I tried "cyberpunk news -2077" and "cyberpunk news NOT 2077" with little effect, although the former seems to try to remove it a little from the first couple of results. I looked briefly at the documentation, and weeding out the results was not there. </p>
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<p>In their case, it doesn't not work well. Lots of empty sections in the export. And code, is mangled, and cut off.</p>
<p>Its why i went with the save route instead of export. But when that failed too, i did end up having to do both pdf, for the details, AND copy/paste of the code.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Nov 16 2024 21:53:56 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Print to PDF is your friend. </div>
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<p>So Medium, which has a few nice articles once in a while.. if you save the webpage locally and try to read it later, they have inserted javascript so it will fail on you on launch with a 404.</p>
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<p>How nice of them.</p>
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in search results, that would be A+++ Would Buy Again kind of cool.   :) 
  
 (Yeah I know ... I *do* run my own search engine, so get to it.) 
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 >Wikipedophilia than using wikipedia.com     
 >     
 >    
    
 Thanks for the heads up.   
  
 I like Gopherpedia myself, which is a gopher interface for Wikipedia. 
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<p>A trade off. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Sep 30 2024 10:47:07 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Wiki, wiki, whack the wikipedia editors in the head with a shovel because they deserve it</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Then you have to click through a certificate warning. </div>
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<p> </p>
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<p>You do that sort of redirect with local DNS too. Not much different than black holing ads..  No plugins required then.</p>
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 This is one of those things that as soon as I imagined it, I assumed that
someone had already written it, and yes it exists. 
  
 [ https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ ] 
  
 This is just a basic web extension that can match URL patters and replace
them with other patterns.  I'm using it because I got tired of Wikipedophilia
and am using it to redirect *wikipedia.org/* to https://wikimili.com/$2 so
I don't have to deal with the communists and pedophiles who run the real Wikipedia.

  
 Oh, and yes, Wikimili exists and is a better way of reading Wikipedophilia
than using wikipedia.com 
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<p>lol</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Sep 16 2024 15:28:53 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Gopher or Gemini</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Oh, I get it ... there are two things called Gemini, because twins. </div>
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<p>The one hes thinking of:</p>
<p>Gemini is an application-layer internet communication protocol for accessing remote documents, similar to HTTP and Gopher. It comes with a special document format, commonly referred to as "gemtext", which allows linking to other documents. Started by a pseudonymous person known as Solderpunk, the protocol is being finalized collaboratively and as of October 2022, has not been submitted to the IETF organization for standardization.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The one you are thinking of:</p>
<p>Google did release some interim models some time ago that you CAN run locally, but i doubt that is the same model ( even if larger ) they are running for Gemini    ( Gemma is the name of models they released )</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Sep 16 2024 14:28:22 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Gopher or Gemini</span></div>
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<blockquote>I don't suppose anyone has a gopher server or gemini server I </blockquote>
<br />Wait, I thought Gemini was google's AI, not something you can self host? <br /><br />Am I wrong? </div>
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 Wait, I thought Gemini was google's AI, not something you can self host?

  
 Am I wrong? 
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<p>This may have always been the case but never noticed until today. </p>
<p>I have a server here at home that has more than one web service running.  I hit it via IP ( i guess i COULD use DNS.. but ...). Each service is a different port.  ( ya ya , so far. normal stuff, i know ) In chrome i zoomed out on one of the apps to take a screenshot. It also changed the zoom rate of any other tab on the same IP, even if it was a different port. I thought it was smarter than that.</p>
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 >Subject: Gopher or Gemini    
 >I don't suppose anyone has a gopher server or gemini server I    
 >could leech off of for a bit? To play around mostly. Thinking of    
 >setting one up myself, but not sure what I actually want to    
 >accomplish in the end.    
 >    
    
 I am not very familiar with Gemeni beyond knowing it exists. I operate a
number of Gopher servers.   
  
 Setting one is very easy these days. I think SDF sets one for you with their
accounts. 
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<p>I don't suppose anyone has a gopher server or gemini server I could leech off of for a bit? To play around mostly. Thinking of setting one up myself, but not sure what I actually want to accomplish in the end.</p>
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 >limited by the upstream search engines.     
    
 Ratelimiting and such come from the fact you generate too much traffic for
upstream engines. If it is only three horse-smelling dudes using the instance
that won't happen.   
  
 The guy running 4get has a proxy fleet. His instance selects a proxy in a
round-robin way to send queries upstream in order to dilute the traffic. The
setup costs him 50 bucks per month. 
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some spare cycles I might add some branding and customization but it will
still be "semi-public".  And by that I assume you mean "not listed in searx.space".
 We'll keep it that way, if the side effect of that is being rate limited
by the upstream search engines. 
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 >Actually, this is pretty much all I use now. Thanks so much!  
 >Absolutely awesome.   
 >  
 >    
 >> Thu Jun 06 2024 18:58:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar   
 >>  
 >>    
 >>For those who care:   
 >>  
 >>https://search.citadel.org is back online.   
 >>  
  
 Yeah, it is an awesome service, and since it is semi-public instead of plain-public,
it does not get ratelimited by upstream engines. 
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<p>Actually, this is pretty much all I use now. Thanks so much! Absolutely awesome.</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jun 06 2024 18:58:54 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />For those who care: <br /><br />https://search.citadel.org is back online. </div>
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<p> </p>
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<p>lol</p>
<p>gas company 'we have updated and upgraded our systems bla bla bla bla" "you now have a new account number and have to update any payment processing" "bla bla bla"  had to reset password, update to new links bla bla. Now its dreadfully slow and more confusing to use.</p>
<p>"Upgrade" Ya. sure. </p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jun 06 2024 18:58:54 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />For those who care: <br /><br />https://search.citadel.org is back online. </div>
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<p>Oh, that's very nice. </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=2099475421</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:24:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #2099475421</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099475421@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Share and enjoy.  It's nice to have something I can use at work after they
banned all of my preferred search engines. 
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 >    
 > For those who care:   
 >    
 > https://search.citadel.org is back online.   
 >   
 >  
  
 Thank you very much. You are the best. 
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<p>cool</p>
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 For those who care: 
  
 https://search.citadel.org is back online. 
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<p>I still say you should try local models.   You will be surprised. </p>
<p>Yes, it will be slower than someone who can pay for a wall of A100s. but it will work. And its not hard.</p>
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 Finally, a large language model ("AI") that is useful. 
  
 [ https://gab.ai ] 
  
 From the folks who brought you the chaotic social network of the same name,
Gab AI will write about whatever you ask.  It's the first publicly available
"AI" that passed my litmus test: I asked it to write arguments both for and
against climate alarmism, and it happily did both without editorializing at
me. 
  
 For me, this is a big win.  My experience with the other sites tends to quickly
become like Dave Bowman talking to HAL -- "this conversation serves no further
purpose".  Gab AI meanwhile is getting it done. 
  
 Highly recommended, even if you don't care for their social media site. 
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<p>I think in general web people exist to destroy good sites.  Just to say " we are working and doing something "</p>
<p>And "they got used to this, let change it and move stuff around.. * evil laugh * "</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 13 2024 18:13:34 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=msgrhys">msgrhys</a> </span></div>
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<p>RealClearPolitics.com's new "Real Clear Polling" site sucks and I wish they would bring back the old (but superior) interface. I sent them an email stating my disapproval, as if they will listen.</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>RealClearPolitics.com's new "Real Clear Polling" site sucks and I wish they would bring back the old (but superior) interface. I sent them an email stating my disapproval, as if they will listen.</p>
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<p>The entire reason we have censorship. If the serfs dont know what freedom and daily food is, they wont demand it.  And the few that realize what it is, has a steeper hill to climb to get support of the serfs to overthrow....</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jan 07 2024 17:47:10 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
<div class="message_content">
<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br /><br />"But itbs hard for people to imagine what they donbt have.</div>
</div>
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<p> </p>
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this topic just yesterday. 
  
 [ https://world.hey.com/dhh/happiness-is-never-having-to-ask-for-permission-20962d41
] 
  
 "But itbs hard for people to imagine what they donbt have. Hard to mourn
all the innovative applications that donbt exist because the business model
wouldnbt work with a 30% tax. Hard to sympathize with all the entrepreneurs
who gave up on making apps because it was just too frustrating to deal with
the app store bureaucracies." 
  
 "Thatbs just reality. We have to accept that, and then have we to find a
way to route around the damage. Thatbs what the internet does so very well.
It treats gatekeepers as a bug and finds a way around them. Whether it be
censorship or monopolies." 
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<p>I do remember them pushing the browser stuff at first, which is why i thought it was cool, a far different concept than Palm or BlackBerry was pushing.  Then the store happened.. then it all fell apart.</p>
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<p>Naah, it was a decade and a half ago and web browsers couldn't handle a lot of the things they can today.  Plus the idea of an app ecosystem was already the prevailing model because the previously dominant mobile computer was the Palm Pilot.</p>
<p>Apple came up with the idea of turning the app ecosystem into a gigantic toll booth, though.</p>
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<p>isnt that really where they started? until the realized they could build a wall?</p>
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 Dunno if anyone was paying attention when this happened earlier in the year:

  
 [ https://webkit.org/blog/13878/web-push-for-web-apps-on-ios-and-ipados/
] 
  
 FruitCo has finally brought support for "progressive web apps" to the Macintosh,
iPhone, and iPad.  Web apps can be added to the home screen, and they can
send push notifications.  This means that for the first time ever, it is possible
for many software publishers to escape the "app" ecosystems without sacrificing
functionality. 
  
 This is kind of a big deal. 
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popular kids moved in.  Let them move back out.  Let them sit outside the
gates, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 
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<p>I have seen a few block you if cookies are blocked.  ( local news paper does that )</p>
<p>And sure not 100% will die. but if 99.9% do, it will not be a good thing. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Jul 17 2023 09:16:14 AM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>Looks at may news papers now, 'you get one free look this month, now <br />pay up'.  Several tech sites are doing it now too. Its a trend. </blockquote>
<br />That scheme is easily defeated by blocking cookies so they can't taint you as a previous viewer. <br /><br />In any case, I say let them die. The democratic internet flourished before the ad-supported and subscription-supported services took over everything. <br />There are still people out there (ahem) running worthwhile sites at their own expense simply for the love of the craft. </div>
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<p> </p>
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 >pay up'.  Several tech sites are doing it now too. Its a trend.   
  
 That scheme is easily defeated by blocking cookies so they can't taint you
as a previous viewer. 
  
 In any case, I say let them die.  The democratic internet flourished before
the ad-supported and subscription-supported services took over everything.
 There are still people out there (ahem) running worthwhile sites at their
own expense simply for the love of the craft. 
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<p>at this point, my isp is just a wire.  so is my cell company. I cant even tell you what my 'real' number is unless i go look it up.  i just use VoIP and have for a LONG time.  Now, moving my hosting services would be a bitch. but ISP, zero issue other than updating some A records that point to my house.. ( that said i wont self host email anymore. to much hassle and too easy to get black listed so still need some level of hosting )</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I have a friend that still has an AOL account...  </p>
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 >crashed would be for ISP to create federated protocols for common   
 >services (file distribution, mobile messaging etc) and include them in 
 
 >your Internet subscription.      
 >      
  
 Could never happen, at least not in the US. Here, ISPs are the scum of the
earth. And they do still come with email, sometimes (maybe not anymore) even
web hosting, but it's so bad the only people you'll ever find with ISP email
addresses are grandmas. Plus, and surely in part because of the aforementioned
scum of the earth, I think most people want their contact decoupled from their
ISP so that you can easily change providers. 
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<p>I really never had that problem when i was younger, most fo the stuff i listened to, was coming out at the same time.  so i was able to buy it as it did. And did. ( books, movies too ). Still do. Someone has to pay to feed the artist.  But i agree its far easier now than it was in the old days, were some groups would pool their money, buy records they all liked, then shared tapes of them...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>tho i fully admit to downloading things to preview. i like odd things, and there is a good chance its crap. In the old days, unless you got lucky and someone had it in your circle, you risked your $ each time.  There was no 'extended groups' like you have now, and it was all local.    ( and all we had was goldmine magazine to see what we were missing out on.. and order from )</p>
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 >Personally, If i have to pay to get to content ( other than my time..  
     
 >) i wont be getting "content" for the most part. its all crap and      
 
 >biased. Not going to subscribe.         
 >        
 >My fear tho is even tech related forums will vanish off the free       

 >market too. Even just going to debian.org to get a new iso will =      
 
 >cash.        
 >        
        
 That is a bit of the problem: ad revenue models have gotten people used to
the fact things are for free.       
      
 Meanwhile I am spending my weekend reproducing a tutorial in a lab to ensure
the tutorial will be reproductible and the people I wrote it for won't get
complaints from their customers because something does not work.     
    
 The Internet has made it so the market is overflooded with stuff which is
not worth a look. This is bad in itself,
but it also has devalued stuff worth paying for.   
  
 When I was a kid, if you got a music tape you got happy as heck and listened
it day and night, because it was one of the three tapes you had. Nowadays
you give an awesome album to somebody and he does not care because he had
a hundred albums he can listen to from the Internet or from his warez folder.

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<p>Personally, If i have to pay to get to content ( other than my time.. ) i wont be getting "content" for the most part. its all crap and biased. Not going to subscribe.</p>
<p>My fear tho is even tech related forums will vanish off the free market too. Even just going to debian.org to get a new iso will = cash.</p>
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 >The only fear i have if all internet ad revenue effectively dies, is   
      
 >it then becomes walled gardens and you have to pay to do anything.    
      
 > And some of the big ones vanish that has contributed good things (   
      
 >and bad, i dont pretend they are perfect but were their good          
 >influences cant be ignored. and never been possible without the huge   
      
 >revenues gained from marketing ). Gotta pay bills and make a profit    
     
 >or things stagnate. Why bother ?           
 >          
 >Looks at may news papers now, 'you get one free look this month, now   
      
 >pay up'.  Several tech sites are doing it now too. Its a trend.       
   
 >          
 >Roll back the flood so its not overwhelming, but perhaps not kill the  
       
 >goose totally.  ( just a silver egg, not golden )          
 > 
        
          
 Back in the old days, at least as far as I am aware, your ISP provided the
basics.         
        
 Your ISP ran an Usenet server for subscribers, and possibly an email service,
because messaging and document distribution were understood to be the reason
why you got on the Internet. You paid for those things with your subscription.
      
      
 I think the rational thing to do if the ad-revenue business model crashed
would be for ISP to create federated protocols for common services (file distribution,
mobile messaging etc) and include them in your Internet subscription.    

    
 I know of ISP that included premium social media in their ISP offers.   
  
 Now, regarding content generation, I think getting back to a model in which
you need to pay to read would be a bit of an improvement. Seriously: articles
written to be published under subscription get more work poured on them than
cheap listicles designed to generate ad clicks. 
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<p>The only fear i have if all internet ad revenue effectively dies, is it then becomes walled gardens and you have to pay to do anything.   And some of the big ones vanish that has contributed good things ( and bad, i dont pretend they are perfect but were their good influences cant be ignored. and never been possible without the huge revenues gained from marketing ). Gotta pay bills and make a profit or things stagnate. Why bother ?</p>
<p>Looks at may news papers now, 'you get one free look this month, now pay up'.  Several tech sites are doing it now too. Its a trend.</p>
<p>Roll back the flood so its not overwhelming, but perhaps not kill the goose totally.  ( just a silver egg, not golden )</p>
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 >Not been following details to closely, but looks like Reddit          
 >committed suicide.  ( and of course twitter is in the process, from   
      
 >another thread )          
 >          
          
 What I have heard is they want to turn their API into a paid service, so
they are killing 3rd party integration, and that is pissing people off.  
      
        
 The internet of ads is dying. I don't think most advertising platforms are
profitable anymore (say Twitter, Reddit, and even Youtube). That is why they
are pressing so hard in order to squeeze the last dimes: because they have
operational problems and need every dime they get.       
      
 And they are self-destructing in the process.     
    
 Related video at https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NdTLj-xcqGM   
  
 It is not URL shortener so click without fear :) 
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<p>wait, i got that backwards. Would be alt.images.porn i think instead. its been too long.</p>
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 The entire purpose of the Internet is to deliver pictures of cats. 
  
 Or porn, depending on who you ask.  Either way the Internet is for pussy.

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<p>Not been following details to closely, but looks like Reddit committed suicide.  ( and of course twitter is in the process, from another thread )</p>
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<p>Usenet too. alt.porn.images ( kidding on porn, but you get the idea )</p>
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<p>I think before the WWW, the best you could do was find an image file (by file name) on a BBS, gopher server, or anonymous FTP, download it, run your local viewer program for whatever graphics format it happened to be, then see if the image was worth all the preceding effort.</p>
<p>So yes, I think embedded images were greatly desired when the WWW was being designed.</p>
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<p>Right, i do think images were part of the original plan. </p>
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 >people had thought past images due to bandwidth back then )   
  
 The first web browsers didn't even have inline images.  That got added pretty
quickly though. 
  
 Think about how people used the Internet in 1990 and that's probably what
they had in mind.  Cat pictures were attached to messages on UseNet all the
time.  Likewise for all manner of pr0n.  pr0n always finds a way. 
  
 Let's change the assertion to this: Tim Berners-Lee and his team didn't envision
the WWW as an application delivery platform.  We know that Marc Andreesen
famously did, which is why the Eye of Redmond focused squarely on Netscape
and its demise.  But that's OK because the Netscape team thought they were
the gods of the Internet and deserved to rule the world, and it was good for
them to be taken down. 
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<p>is it just me, or does latest chrome on Linux suck for downloading. suck bad..   It pretty much freezes the entire thing during the download, and if there is more than 2 the entire PC slows down to mud (system resources are fine, its gotta be chrome internal resources )</p>
<p>I can wget the same file just fine, so its not the system. just chrome.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>and i know i know.. dont use chrome it sucks..  but it has a couple of things i use between platforms. </p>
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<p>Not so sure about that. ( the picture part at least..   doubt people had thought past images due to bandwidth back then )</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jun 29 2023 01:41:46 AM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=LadySerenaKitty">LadySerenaKitty</a> </span></div>
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<p>It wasn't made for cat pics/vids either, yet here we are.</p>
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<p>It wasn't made for cat pics/vids either, yet here we are.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Wed Jun 28 2023 16:23:13 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">To be fair, the WWW was not originally intended to be an application delivery platform. </div>
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platform. 
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<p>Well, it did grow into something that it was never intended to be.  ( starting with client side processing....)</p>
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<p>Fucking Mozilla. Firefox now refuses to delete individual items from my history, either with Shift-DEL or by clicking the three dots and selecting "Remove from history". Literally nothing happens.</p>
<p>The entire World Wide Web must be burned to the ground, and the earth salted.</p>
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<p>Fucking Mozilla. Firefox now refuses to delete individual items from my history, either with Shift-DEL or by clicking the three dots and selecting "Remove from history". Literally nothing happens.</p>
<p>The entire World Wide Web must be burned to the ground, and the earth salted.</p>
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<p>Ok so its not ALL methods, err verbs. The CMR said 'disabling verbs on all IIS servers' and that was all it said, other than listing which servers were in each "batch".  it implied all, and i had zero idea how anything was going to function. But in reality, its only some of the more "dangerous" ones ( in their eyes ) such as delete, patch, and nuke.  But stuff like post and get are still allowed.</p>
<p>Still killing a few of our apps. But at least not a complete implosion. </p>
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<p>And sites are going down as they make the changes.</p>
<p>Not all. but there is fallout.</p>
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<p>ya,  get. post, head. etc.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>i had to go look it up too..  I heard about it a few months ago  ( i was asked to automate something about it ) then just saw the CMR yesterday that its really going to happen.</p>
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<p>So at the office they are in the process of "denying iis verbs" on all web servers.</p>
<p>Wont that make many of the apps useless?</p>
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<p>A few others did too, the 'local' one i used for a while ( i forget the name now, its been too long ) also did it.</p>
<p>I do realize its long ago not everyone did it, etc. bla bla.  Just pointing out that they could do it, again. </p>
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there so you could run "regular" TCP/IP software while using them as a network
provider.  Most of the others just shipped a skinned version of Trumpet Winsock.

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<p>I take it back there is one way:</p>
<p>Mandate a compromised IP stack + backdoored CPU ( vpro, for example ) on every machine that connects to the network. </p>
<p>I remember in the old days of dial-up how some companies had their own custom IP stack + software to be able to connect to their service.  Sure, it was not nefarious at the time as it was still the early days, but i was thinking "this could be really bad if used the wrong way"</p>
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<p>Right, there are ways around it, but if they stop the unwashed masses, then they consider it a success. </p>
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and not actual network hijacking. 
  
 Fortunately, secure DNS servers plus DNSSEC were designed to prevent bad
actors from altering DNS results in-stream.  This is good because now the
ultimate bad actor wants to do it. 
  
 The more the Empire tightens its grip, the more star systems slip through
its fingers. 
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<p>I vote clueless, and with luck overturned.</p>
<p>Enforceable, may not be that hard to enforce for the average user. Just hit the main backbone companies and major DNS providers " and we want proof you did it or we find you contempt of court and fine you".</p>
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is either utterly clueless or was intentionally so broad that it will be overturned
in an appeal. 
  
 It should be assumed that the gestapo is already in your ISP's DNS, and possibly
in your router as well. 
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<p>In this context i didnt think it matters what they were sharing as i wasn't going down the rabbit hole of 'guilt and punishment'. It was just "is this 'unilateral block' a prescient here in the US". i have not heard of one before in the US so i was wondering.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But to answer the question: They were an IPTV site, and yes i do think there are some 1st amendment issues. </p>
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 >So i'm lazy.. is this a precedent in the US?   
  
 I don't know but it sounds like a pretty blatant first amendment violation
to me. Conviction of a crime should not mean you lose your Constitutionally
protected rights (although that ship has long sailed with 2A and voting).
What you pasted says nothing about the content of new websites, only that
the defendants shall be blacklisted and that all ISPs must comply, regardless
of whether their new website is Biden regime propaganda or sharing SEGA Genisis
ROMs. 
  
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<p>So i'm lazy.. is this a precedent in the US?</p>
<p>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/judge-rules-every-isp-in-us-must-block-pirate-sites-run-by-mysterious-defendants/</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>"<span style="color: #616268; font-family: opensans; font-size: 15px;">It is further ordered that all ISPs (including without limitation those set forth in Exhibit B hereto) and any other ISPs providing services in the United States shall block access to the Website at any domain address known today (including but not limited to those set forth in Exhibit A hereto) or to be used in the future by the Defendants ("Newly Detected Websites") by any technological means available on the ISPs' systems. The domain addresses and any Newly Detected Websites shall be channeled in such a way that users will be unable to connect and/or use the Website, and will be diverted by the ISPs' DNS servers to a landing page operated and controlled by Plaintiffs (the "Landing Page")."</span></p>
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 >Web today is not how it was envisioned.   Client side processing  
 >broke it.   
  
 That is why the Gemini people is trying to make Gemini as unextensible as
possible, actually. THey hold exactly that opinion. 
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<p>Web today is not how it was envisioned.   Client side processing broke it.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon May 02 2022 12:14:08 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>the takeaway should be that the web sucks. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I was about to mention to IGnatius that, indeed, all browsers suck. The ones that don't suck due to their evilness suck because they lack necessary features by today's standards. </div>
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 >the takeaway should be that the web sucks.   
 >   
 >  
  
 I was about to mention to IGnatius that, indeed, all browsers suck. The ones
that don't suck due to their evilness suck because they lack necessary features
by today's standards. 
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 >DuckDuckGo joined the ranks of suckage for a couple of reasons,   
 >including their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results
 
 >questioning the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine.   
 >    
 > I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave   
 >browser).  
 > Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the   
 >right place.   
 >   
 >  
  
 I think I have already asked this, but which index provider is Brave using?

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 >I need to setup a yacy node and see how well it works.  
 >  
  
 Yacy works very very very badly at this point, which is a shame. Also, all
the crawling is linked to an IP you supposedly control, which is not any good.
Too bad, because the idea sounds awesome on paper. 
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 > > 2022-04-26 03:58 from IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>     
 > >Wow.  Seems like he has a reason to hate *every* browser.     
 > > s     
 > >     
 > >    
 >    
 > I think the point of the page is to critique browsers, so yes, he   
 >found faults with all of them. But like the news, you have to read   
 >through the opinions and weigh the substantial evidence for yourself.  

 >    
 > And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think 
 
 >the takeaway should be that the web sucks.   
 >   
 >  
  
 Also I was just skimming the page again and noticed he has not one but TWO
summaries at the end. So you know this guy means business! 
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 >Wow.  Seems like he has a reason to hate *every* browser.   
 > s   
 >   
 >  
  
 I think the point of the page is to critique browsers, so yes, he found faults
with all of them. But like the news, you have to read through the opinions
and weigh the substantial evidence for yourself. 
  
 And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think the
takeaway should be that the web sucks. 
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 s 
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 >DuckDuckGo joined the ranks of suckage for a couple of reasons,   
 >including their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results
 
 >questioning the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine.   
 >    
 > I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave   
 >browser).  
 > Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the   
 >right place.   
 >   
 >  
  
 I have read not-so-great things about Brave, at least the browser. 
  
 https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#brave 
  
 Thoughts? 
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<p>The extreme and blatant Ukraine and flu-vid censorship has brought a lot of things to light i think, for the people that were clueless before.    Nothing else its causing alternatives to spring up, and older ones to be more viable.</p>
<p>Of course it means places like google are doubling down.</p>
<p> </p>
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their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results questioning
the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine. 
  
 I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave browser).
 Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the right
place. 
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<p>I need to setup a yacy node and see how well it works.</p>
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 >Well, duckduckgo has joined the ranks of suckage and have truly bent   

 >over to the IP mob..     
 >    
 >They are now blocking pirate site results and even sites for    
 >"YT-down-loaders", which their existence is unquestionably legal.     

 >    
 >      
 >    
 >     
 >    
    
 Well, it was not a secret Duckduckgo was just slightly better than the regular
competitors. Even if it wasn't, it does not own its index so it is vulnerable
to an eventual attack from Microsoft.   
  
 I wish Gigablast was able to provide better results. Well I suppose there
will always be Frogfind. 
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<p>Well, duckduckgo has joined the ranks of suckage and have truly bent over to the IP mob..</p>
<p>They are now blocking pirate site results and even sites for "YT-down-loaders", which their existence is unquestionably legal. </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>To get their shared browser search history - you would have to have access to their logged in browser - but if they've cleared that, you'll be powerless to recover it. <br /><br />On a local machine - the best bet would be to either use complete deleted file recovery and recover the cache directory files that were deleted back to their proper place - but the easiest solution would be to have a backup from before the local history was deleted and restore that to a completely different machine. <br /><br />I mean - my guess is with a subpoena - Google or Microsoft both can provide "deleted" remote web browsing history to authorities  - and that deleting your web browsing history just means YOU, or anyone local on YOUR machine, can't see your web browsing history. Google and Microsoft still can. They don't ACTUALLY delete it. They archive it and make a new history list for you. <br /><br /><br />But if you're logging in and sharing passwords, bookmarks, history and other web browser data remotely - other
<p> </p>
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<p>If the browser was attached to a Microsoft or Google account, they might be holding the <em>search</em> history, which depending on what you're looking to find, might reveal something.</p>
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<p>I have never had any luck..  Be curious if you find a way.</p>
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<p>So, for reasons, I want to be able to recover a deleted browser history. </p>
<p>I want to be able to do this in both Microsoft Edge, and Chrome.</p>
<p>Is it possible? And how do I do it?</p>
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them proudly when I am wearing a button down shirt, but I don't like the way
they look with pullovers so I will usually wear them underneath, in between
layers.  That is actually how suspenders were historically worn -- originally
they were considered an undergarment. 
  
 The issue you (PD) cited was the reason I originally started wearing suspenders.
 Pants should be worn around the waist, but when your waist is not the narrowest
part of your torso, they do not want to sit around your waist unless you do
something very uncomfortable with a belt.  Otherwise they're either above
the belly (hillbilly look + a wedgie) or on your hips (gangsta-ass ghetto
look + butt crack).  Suspenders fix this problem instantly and without any
fuss. 
  
 darknetuser: I am not afraid to present as a redneck  :) 
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<p>As I get older and my belly gets bigger than my hips and ass - belts do not work very well unless I crank them down uncomfortably. I've strongly considered suspenders - my wife has vetoed the idea. <br /><br />As a trophy husband, I don't have much say in the matter. <br /><br /></p>
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 >      
 > We don't have a fashion room, so I'll just leave this here as a "I    

 >like this web site"     
 >      
 > [ https://www.suspenderstore.com/ ]     
 >      
    
 We all knew that, deep down, you are a toothless redneck from the deep South
with a love for suspenders and everything get off my lawn.   
  
 I have a bunch of military survival gear that comes with suspenders. Suspenders
beat the crap out of belts only. Nowadays I use the blackops military suits
for doing barn work because they are so comfortable for barn work. 
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 We don't have a fashion room, so I'll just leave this here as a "I like this
web site" 
  
 [ https://www.suspenderstore.com/ ] 
  
 Yes, I wear suspenders.  They're so freaking comfortable that I wear them
almost every day.  If I am wearing a pull-over shirt I'll wear the suspenders
underneath, but if I am wearing a button-down then I'm almost always sporting
a pair of visible suspenders.  Because I am cool and awesome and I like the
way I look in them. 
  
 When I started wearing them a few years ago, I almost immediately discovered
that department store suspenders are garbage.  They don't look great, are
cheaply built, and the clips on them are weak.  They were always popping off
and needed to be put back on, and that's annoying.  I found suspenderstore.com
and I love the quality, the selection, and the service. 
  
 Yes, this reads like an ad.  Really though, I'm just sharing the
news about a vendor I really love and I hope others will check them out as
well.  My very favorite suspenders, which I wear very frequently, has clamps
with pins in them, which are great for attaching to jeans.  Eventually I lost
a pin, probably through overuse or in the wash or something.  The clamps have
two pins but I am still wearing this set with the one pin on that clamp. 
I asked their customer service person if they had extra pins, and she said
she would send a new clip with my latest order, free of charge.  You don't
get THAT kind of service from Amazon! 
  
 SPECIAL NOTE: if you are reading this message and live outside of the United
States -- what we call "suspenders" you might call "braces".  They go over
your shoulders and hold your trousers up.  What you call "suspenders" we call
"garters".  I do not wear stockings  :) 
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 >results supplemented by other search engines.     
 >    
 >Honestly, I'd rather have search results that are an aggregate of    
 >multiple sources, instead of one party claiming to be the arbiter of   

 >truth.     
 >    
 >     
 >    
    
 It sounds to me like you'd like the Searx project.   
  
 It is an open-source, FOSS metasearch engine.  You can configure to use a
number of mainstream indexes, TaCy and whatever you want, aggregate the results
and display them. There are a number of publicly available instances for you
to try. 
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<blockquote>
<div class="message_content">
<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Do they use their own web index? </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Most of the smaller search engines have an index of their own, with results supplemented by other search engines.</p>
<p>Honestly, I'd rather have search results that are an aggregate of multiple sources, instead of one party claiming to be the arbiter of truth.</p>
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<p>like YaCy? </p>
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<p>Could you game someone else's search index to restore sanity to the results by reweighting the results your engine returns to remove the bias introduced into theirs? </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Could you game someone else's search index to restore sanity to the results by reweighting the results your engine returns to remove the bias introduced into theirs? </p>
<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Dec 12 2021 17:08:38 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>2021-12-08 10:38 from IGnatius T Foobar <br />Hmm. Brave has a search engine now. Seems decent. I'm going to live </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>with it for a while. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />Do they use their own web index? (I guess no) <br /><br />If the answer for the question above is "no", which index are they using? </div>
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 >Hmm.  Brave has a search engine now.  Seems decent.  I'm going to live 
   
 >with it for a while.     
 >     
 >    
    
 Do they use their own web index? (I guess no)   
  
 If the answer for the question above is "no", which index are they using?

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it for a while. 
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 >the Apaches you don't have in a reserve behind a reverse   
 >proxy/accelerator anyway.   
  
 These days the common practice (if you're running at large web scale) is
to containerize the web service, stick it behind a load balancer, and have
the load balancer start up and shut down instances of the container to match
the incoming load. 
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<p>Wasn't really the web side, the biggest problem i had was when i stood up a proxy, so i could run all services on the same external port and redirect via referring url. After 10 or 20 thousand open connections per minute, it collapsed. </p>
<p>My overall bandwidth was dismal too, so much traffic, easily 2/3 was gone.  After i shut it all down, things were back to normal.</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />I have PHP services running on OpenBSD's httpd, using the most pityful hardware you can imagine, and they get tons of bot attacks but don't crack. I think for personal use you'd have no trouble. </div>
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 >Yes it is.   
 >  
 >However, im putting together a 'real' netxcloud server for some  
 >friends of mine to use and some stuff refuses to work now without  
 >SSL.   And if i put it on the outside, and not just via VPN, its a  
 >good idea anyway of course.   
 >  
 >    
 >  
 >Donno if the DoS kids will kill me tho. Last time i tried something  
 >like this, they did. At least with only VPN exposed, they dont seem  
 >to try, beyond the normal random attempts but not a huge volume that  
 >kills my bandwidth.  
 >  
  
 I have PHP services running on OpenBSD's httpd, using the most pityful hardware
you can imagine, and they get tons of bot attacks but don't crack. I think
for personal use you'd have no trouble. 
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 >Apache + SSL = headache.    
 >  
 >    
 >  
 >At least for me today.. i dont normally care about SSL, but wanted to  
 >do it on something im building.  I *think* i have SSL right ( used  
 >certbot ), but getting issues with redirects now. Time to turn it off  
 >for the day before i get too frustrated.  
 >  
  
 I am not an Apache guy, but I thought common practice was to place all the
Apaches you don't have in a reserve behind a reverse proxy/accelerator anyway.

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<p>I got frustrated, and then i cheated. i killed the vm, re-installed it via turnkey and stuck my cert there.</p>
<p>in process upgrading the base OS now.</p>
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is not something I'm interested in either, but Nginx is to Apache as Postfix
is to Sendmail -- it's just far more clean and modern, way easier to configure
and maintain.  It's also a hell of a lot faster. 
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<p>As you tell the guy who sometimes drives a car that is 35 years old on purpose: 'the kids'. :)   ( and the other.. 21 years.. as i DONT want modern tech and 2006 was the last year before they modernized the wranglers, and ruined it.. )</p>
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 And yeah, the Ace VPN is totally rad, and you should use it.  For $15/month
you can't go wrong, and I'll be happy to send you a copy of my router VM (or
just the instructions on how to build one yourself) so you don't have to use
their router if you don't want to. 
  
 (There's nothing wrong with their router; it does the job perfectly.  But
there is something quite nice about having both the hosting workload and the
virtual router all together in a nice little bundle that you can run anywhere.)

  
 And of course there's the darknet.   
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<p>Right, the 5MB is attractive. And may become an option if i need it. </p>
<p>Of course first i have to get Apache to cooperate :) </p>
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<p>That may be a benefit of these guys Ig turned me onto. Your VPN pipe is limited to 5mb of your total - so... kill that 5mb... I suppose. Evidently, they get bored with it. <br /><br />But I do use SSL... I just... struggle with it. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Oct 18 2021 07:17:50 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Yes it is.</p>
<p>However, im putting together a 'real' netxcloud server for some friends of mine to use and some stuff refuses to work now without SSL.   And if i put it on the outside, and not just via VPN, its a good idea anyway of course.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Donno if the DoS kids will kill me tho. Last time i tried something like this, they did. At least with only VPN exposed, they dont seem to try, beyond the normal random attempts but not a huge volume that kills my bandwidth.</p>
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<p>Yes it is.</p>
<p>However, im putting together a 'real' netxcloud server for some friends of mine to use and some stuff refuses to work now without SSL.   And if i put it on the outside, and not just via VPN, its a good idea anyway of course.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Donno if the DoS kids will kill me tho. Last time i tried something like this, they did. At least with only VPN exposed, they dont seem to try, beyond the normal random attempts but not a huge volume that kills my bandwidth.</p>
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<p>SSL is a headache. It is overly complicated.</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Oct 17 2021 18:07:21 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Apache + SSL = headache. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>At least for me today.. i dont normally care about SSL, but wanted to do it on something im building.  I *think* i have SSL right ( used certbot ), but getting issues with redirects now. Time to turn it off for the day before i get too frustrated.</p>
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<p>Apache + SSL = headache. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>At least for me today.. i dont normally care about SSL, but wanted to do it on something im building.  I *think* i have SSL right ( used certbot ), but getting issues with redirects now. Time to turn it off for the day before i get too frustrated.</p>
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<p>his "IT lackeys" most likely wrote the thing, so cant trust them.</p>
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 Or any antequated browser, for that matter. Or even without a browser! It
is honestly baffling to me how this sort of embarassment happens. I understand
the governer is an old fogey who doesn't know how the web works, and that's
okay. But if he doesn't know, he didn't think to ask someone who does? None
of his lackeys thought to ask someone?? I don't care what party he represents,
this moron should be recalled immediately. 
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<p>lol. "hacker" </p>
<p> </p>
<p>https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg8ynp/governor-wants-to-prosecute-journalist-who-clicked-view-source-on-government-site</p>
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 The credit union itself cannot be absorbed, but its operations can be fully
taken over by a third party. 
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<p>Now... <br /><br />GO!!!!!</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jul 06 2021 17:00:08 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>"we have emailed your code to reset your password, you have 35 seconds to enter it before it expires"</p>
<p>wtf.. </p>
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<p>"we have emailed your code to reset your password, you have 35 seconds to enter it before it expires"</p>
<p>wtf.. </p>
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<p>I dont think mine even can be absorbed.  Its a credit union.  However, they did expand their charter, so not real sure how that effects the rules.   ( too lazy to go look )</p>
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 >So my town has online bill pay for local utils ( like trash and sewer  
     
 >).  Via a 3rd party.         
 >        
 >This month cant login.  "Account not found, please register" ok, it   
    
 >happens, i might have missed a notice of an upgrade bla bla.  Try to  
     
 >register "invalid service account"  really? Its on my invoices that   
    
 >i get paper copies of, since i dont trust online billing ( go figure   
    
 >).. oh well lets email support, which goes to the town instead, odd    
   
 >but not totally unexpected.         
 >        
 >"we are sorry, you are not our customer" wtf..  i have been here 20   
    
 >years.. we didnt just get annexed by another town or something. (      
 
 >that is a thing around here tho.. gotta get them taxes  they love to  
     
 >annex farm land then rezone . screwing the people living
there for        
 >generations )         
 >        
 >Turns out it gave me the wrong town's email address. and i didnt       

 >notice as its almost the same ( ours is 'new' 'xxx', the other is      
 
 >just 'xxx' )         
 >        
 >Seems both tows use the same payment service, and they suck. lol.     
   
 >        
        
 And it always seems to go to worse.       
      
 My bank's web sertfice used to be great. Then they were forced to make some
changes due to legal threats and the web service started being ok only. Then
the bank was absorved by a bigger bank and the web service sucks cocks.  
  
    
 Then you have to do something on a deadline, and the banking application
tells you there is an issue with the authentication backend.   
  
 Geeeeeze. 
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<p>So my town has online bill pay for local utils ( like trash and sewer ).  Via a 3rd party.</p>
<p>This month cant login.  "Account not found, please register" ok, it happens, i might have missed a notice of an upgrade bla bla.  Try to register "invalid service account"  really? Its on my invoices that i get paper copies of, since i dont trust online billing ( go figure ).. oh well lets email support, which goes to the town instead, odd but not totally unexpected.</p>
<p>"we are sorry, you are not our customer" wtf..  i have been here 20 years.. we didnt just get annexed by another town or something. ( that is a thing around here tho.. gotta get them taxes  they love to annex farm land then rezone . screwing the people living there for generations )</p>
<p>Turns out it gave me the wrong town's email address. and i didnt notice as its almost the same ( ours is 'new' 'xxx', the other is just 'xxx' )</p>
<p>Seems both tows use the same payment service, and they suck. lol. </p>
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<p>More Poland rail crossings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAWItD7y0I</p>
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<p>I was driving a company vehicle, as soon as it hit the bumps of the tracks the truck came to a dead stop.  I wasn't going very fast but the truck was on the tracks and was not moving.</p>
<p>I had a prick of a boss at the time and he really didn't want to do much to help me, he didn't want to call the fleet supervisor.  Two tow trucks arrived but they couldn't handle a vehicle with that much weight.  Eventually the truck was towed and no train.  The person in the truck and I had a long, long day, and I shouldn't have been driving the truck as it was.  Part of us wanted to see it get hit.</p>
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<p>Before. They stop, the engineer gets out, he walks over and has a chat with the driver... <br /><br />"You know, you are blocking the track, and I would have killed you if I didn't stop in time, you shouldn't do that, no?" <br /><br />"I know, I'm terribly sorry. The barrier didn't come down until I was half way across the tracks and broke, and my Yugo doesn't have enough horsepower to back off the track over the broken barrier, nor enough to go forward through the remaining one..." <br /><br />"This is a problem. Here - this nice fellow driver is offering to help push your car back off the tracks. No hurry, my passengers all say to take your time..." <br /><br />I swear, this is how the conversations are going. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue May 18 2021 08:54:49 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Before or after they run them down? </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon May 17 2021 10:24:45 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=ParanoidDelusions">ParanoidDelusions</a> </span></div>
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<p>The trains stop and have conversations with the drivers, too. </p>
<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>Before or after they run them down? </p>
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<p>The trains stop and have conversations with the drivers, too. </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>The trains stop and have conversations with the drivers, too. </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>They dont around here either.  Until they get run over. </p>
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<p>It is odd how the lines in the road do not line up with the gates, and the gates stop working or break with the slightest touch.  Drivers can't seem to figure out what to do at a crossing.</p>
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<p>This would be of interest to IGnat's son.</p>
<p>Apparently the residents of Poland have no idea how train crossings work.  This channel is filled with people not stopping at an active train crossing, hitting or getting hit with the crossing guard, or backing up and going forward when the gates are down, and general confusing at the crossing. </p>
<p>One thing I noticed is the gates seem to be made out of balsa wood because they break at the slightest touch.  They do seem to have cameras at every crossing.</p>
<p>One of the videos with several examples. </p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLm5U41lTUE</p>
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you can configure your mail system to filter those out.  My biggest regret
with regard to my work email was using my real email address and phone number
when I went to Cisco Live some number of years ago.  Vendors aren't supposed
to sell the list of contacts they made at a trade show, but we all know they
do.  Now I get tons of calls and emails from people who know my name and title.

  
 Lately I've been getting a few emails on my personal account from people
who know my real name too.  Still trying to figure out what dipshit sold me
out there. 
  
 When I sign up for nearly anything online, I always use SpamGourmet.  You
get to send me three emails and then the address stops working.  You can even
go to their web site and see how many messages have arrived for each disposable
address.  For some, there are tens of thousands. 
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<p>The feature was not advertised well or we would have heard of it.  Problem is the people that are in the business of spamming you, the ones you want to avoid, i guarantee they know about it..</p>
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun May 02 2021 05:15:21 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>If you add a "+" at the end of your user name, and then some <br />identifying text you can find out who sold you out.   </blockquote>
<br />That's interesting. And it'll work great until the bottom feeders catch on and start stripping/changing it. <br /><br />I prefer [ https://www.spamgourmet.com ] which allows you to use disposable email addresses that don't require manual creation, and don't disclose the true email address. </div>
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<p>The feature has been around for a long time, and several of you are only finding out about it now. I am not too worried about it.  I mostly use the feature for legitimate website.  If you want a double layer of protect but still want to filter spam use a throwaway gmail with the plus character. </p>
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<p>I found that some places block 'anonymous' email domains.</p>
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 >identifying text you can find out who sold you out.     
  
 That's interesting.  And it'll work great until the bottom feeders catch
on and start stripping/changing it. 
  
 I prefer [ https://www.spamgourmet.com ] which allows you to use disposable
email addresses that don't require manual creation, and don't disclose the
true email address. 
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<p>Of course its easily defeated.  but its a neat idea.</p>
<p>too bad they cant do just a random GUID or something. </p>
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<p>Well isn't that interesting . </p>
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<p>You don't need to create anything on the gmail side, when the new website asks you for your email you enter the email with the "+name" on the new website.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>I have a few "+xxxx" accounts where I added the name in the settings of gmail so I can reply using the "+xxxx" username.</p>
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<p>👍<br />This is good to know. </p>
<p>I suppose you can go into your profile and add the +&lt;text&gt; to your e-mail address and rat them out after the fact, if you have access to the profile, after the fact, too. </p>
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<p>Gmail has a feature you can use if you need to give an email address out but I worried about spam or junk mail from the company that needs the email.</p>
<p>If you add a "+" at the end of your user name, and then some identifying text you can find out who sold you out.  </p>
<p>Example:  original_user_name+amazon@gmail.com</p>
<p>Any email sent to that email address shows up in your regular inbox.  You can create filters for it if need be.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Mine was used for that, but i needed it for back when they still had 'groups'. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Apr 27 2021 11:48:21 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=test2">test2</a> </span></div>
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<p>yahoo was setup to be a destination for spam.  they automatically sell all newly created accounts to the spam lords.</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>yahoo was setup to be a destination for spam.  they automatically sell all newly created accounts to the spam lords.</p>
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<p>Come to think of it, i bet my yahoo is still out there too.  Unless they remove them after x years of non-login?</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Apr 25 2021 02:58:41 AM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=arabella">arabella</a> </span></div>
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<p>My Yahoo mail address is still active.</p>
<p>It gets about 5 non-spam mails a year</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>My Yahoo mail address is still active.</p>
<p>It gets about 5 non-spam mails a year</p>
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<p>I know one that still has an AOL address. </p>
<p>I guess they are about like yahoo at this point. Mostly email and 'filtered news'</p>
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<p>I don't know how or why but my mother's browser start page is yahoo.  She likes it, and isn't going to change.  She likes the news stories on the main page.</p>
<p>I know a few people that use yahoo as their email.</p>
<p> </p>
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 They have a terrible spam blacklist policy. And some other sites actually
still use them as an email service provider. I went round and round with them
a few times. A friend suggested contacting several Yahoo! users and asking
them to whitelist my domain. I don't know if that helped or if my request
magically made it to someone, but the problem seems to have resolved....for
now. *knocks on wood* Ridiculous! 
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<p>Yahoo is a great ping test to check that name resolution is working and to tracert hops. <br /><br />I hope they never go away. They're the first domain I always go for when I'm testing things of this nature. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />It's so cute that Yahoo still thinks it exists. </div>
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<p> </p>
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 It's so cute that Yahoo still thinks it exists. 
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<p>In my world APIs are incoming only.  Needs some sort of broker between them. Sure they exist, but they cost $ and they are expecting magic.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Apr 05 2021 12:20:28 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">That depends ... does it speak XML? It has been said that XML is like violence: if it doesn't work, you're not using enough of it. </div>
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if it doesn't work, you're not using enough of it. 
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<p>"can your API talk to my API" </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Ah so we copied you.. same concept tho.. once one government takes some rights, others say 'hey, that is a great idea "</p>
<p> </p>
<p>and sure the *concept* of protecting rights is good, just the draconian implementation that only benefits the giants, and punishes the small guy, and consumer, not so much.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>AWed Mar 10 2021 14:52:03 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>2021-03-10 14:39 from Nurb432 <br />True, but didnt the UK adopt something similar to the DMCA after we </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>jumped in that hole? <br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I think we had a DCMA equivalent in my country earlier than you. <br /><br />In fact I sent a lot of DCMA notices to US companies myself in the day. Somebody I had authorized to distribute material in my name over third parties forgot to take it down from the third party websites once the licenses expired. <br /><br /><br />In that sense the DCMA mechanism is not bad because it allows neutral third parties to host content without being sued into oblivion for this sort of missunderstandings, while allowing copyright holders to police for illegal copies without much drama. </div>
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<p> </p>
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 >True, but didnt the UK adopt something similar to the DMCA after we    
 
 >jumped in that hole?       
 >      
      
 I think we had a DCMA equivalent in my country earlier than you.     
    
 In fact I sent a lot of DCMA notices to US companies myself in the day. Somebody
I had authorized to distribute material in my name over third parties forgot
to take it down from the third party websites once the licenses expired. 
 
  
 In that sense the DCMA mechanism is not bad because it allows neutral third
parties to host content without being sued into oblivion for this sort of
missunderstandings, while allowing copyright holders to police for illegal
copies without much drama. 
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<p>True, but didnt the UK adopt something similar to the DMCA after we jumped in that hole?</p>
<p>Any more, what effects one, trickles down to everyone in some way.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">For one I am not suffering. It looks like a mainly US problem. Selfish-me. <br /><br /><br />For what I understand, the proposal is not viable. </div>
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 For what I understand, the proposal is not viable. 
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<p>Sure, there will still be those of us who work around it, but i do think that easy and open communication among the masses has improved a lot of peoples lives.  And i agree here late its been doing harm due to the infiltration of agendas, but the concept of free-information is a liberating concept for all.</p>
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<p>And... <br /><br />You know *we'll* still figure out how to do it. It'll just go back to like 1985-1989 - when only really smart people could get online and it was HARD to find the first few sites so that you could get good enough to find the rest of them. <br /><br />Online communication was better when we flew WAY under the radar of mainstream society. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 09 2021 23:40:03 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=ParanoidDelusions">ParanoidDelusions</a> </span></div>
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<p>Might destroying the viability of the Internet actually be the *best* thing that could happen, at this point? <br /><br />Who says you can't put Pandora's box back once you open it. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 09 2021 19:53:35 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Doubt it will pass, but if so, could be the end of the internet for all practical purposes.  Ends the ability for any small shop to exist, skyrocketing internet fees, and banishing people by the millions with no recourse, for posting something as simple as a meme, and destroy any last hope of free speech on the open net.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/the-digital-copyright-act-will-chill-innovation-and-harm-the-internet-210309/" target="webcit01">https://torrentfreak.com/the-digital-copyright-act-will-chill-innovation-and-harm-the-internet-210309/</a></p>
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<p> </p>
<br /><br /></div>
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<p> </p>
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<p>Might destroying the viability of the Internet actually be the *best* thing that could happen, at this point? <br /><br />Who says you can't put Pandora's box back once you open it. </p>
<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 09 2021 19:53:35 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Doubt it will pass, but if so, could be the end of the internet for all practical purposes.  Ends the ability for any small shop to exist, skyrocketing internet fees, and banishing people by the millions with no recourse, for posting something as simple as a meme, and destroy any last hope of free speech on the open net.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/the-digital-copyright-act-will-chill-innovation-and-harm-the-internet-210309/" target="webcit01">https://torrentfreak.com/the-digital-copyright-act-will-chill-innovation-and-harm-the-internet-210309/</a></p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 09 2021 07:53:35 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>Doubt it will pass, </p>
<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
<p>So it has a good chance at passing?    I don't know anymore.</p>
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<p>Doubt it will pass, but if so, could be the end of the internet for all practical purposes.  Ends the ability for any small shop to exist, skyrocketing internet fees, and banishing people by the millions with no recourse, for posting something as simple as a meme, and destroy any last hope of free speech on the open net.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>https://torrentfreak.com/the-digital-copyright-act-will-chill-innovation-and-harm-the-internet-210309/</p>
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<p>Ignat, your son might like this information</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkzYMi-PY5U</p>
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<p>*thumbs up*</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Feb 14 2021 18:16:30 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />If you can use "old.reddit.com" for navigating with tno Javascript, that is great news. <br /><br />They have been blocking Tor as of late, which renders it a bit useless to me. </div>
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<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSsYuPiWmA</p>
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 If you can use "old.reddit.com" for navigating with tno Javascript, that
is great news.   
  
 They have been blocking Tor as of late, which renders it a bit useless to
me. 
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<p>Just browsed Reddit using lynx, but did use the old.reddit.com hostname.  Seems to work without JavaScript (for reading at least) not sure about posting.</p>
<p>I read r/syadmin and mainly to watch for people stubbing their toes on the monthly updates as it gets stickied every month and is a good first check on botched MS updates.  Not so much on reading other stuff on Reddit, but the counts of posts seem to match on threads on that subreddit.</p>
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 >Reddit ... never been active there, but it looks closer to "a real BBS"
     
 >than any of the big sites.  Gotta give them credit for that.       
 >       
 >      
      
 It probably counted as that back in the day.     
    
 It certainly was a great place where you could talk about the really dark
stuff in your life that you could not discus elsewhere.   
  
 As anything popular, it was moron ridden, but overall they had it very well
managed. Until they yielded to pressure and turned it into useless trash.

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<p>It is a trick. They're another "Front Page of the Internet" site that uses "user weighting" to create top articles and bury bottom ones. <br /><br />But it is all rigged, and all biased. <br /><br />It is a cesspool. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Feb 08 2021 08:55:55 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Reddit ... never been active there, but it looks closer to "a real BBS" than any of the big sites. Gotta give them credit for that. </div>
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any of the big sites.  Gotta give them credit for that. 
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<p>This. The things that get buried and promoted in the "Libertarian" threads makes it obvious the numbers aren't right. <br /><br />People attacking cops and burning down Seattle? Libertarians! <br /><br />People attacking cops and threatening the Senate? "Dangerous insurgents attempting a rebellion and threatening the sacred institutions of the US Democracy!" </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Feb 06 2021 10:43:19 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=nonservator">nonservator</a> </span></div>
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<p>To gaslight you into no longer caring about pesky things like facts and numbers, and to get you to quit believing your lying eyes.</p>
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<p>To gaslight you into no longer caring about pesky things like facts and numbers, and to get you to quit believing your lying eyes.</p>
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<p>What is the point of having a script that falsely increases the number of up votes or comment counts?</p>
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 >I don't have a Reddit account and I rarely visit.  The other day    
    
 I was in Reddit only for visiting a sub that was, let's say, socially unaceptable.
When it was forcefully closed, I simply ceased to log in.   
  
 Then they made Javascript mandatory so I would not bother to browse their
threads as a guest at all anymore. Before that, if I was duckduckgoing for
some piece of info and Reddit had a thread about it, I would check it, but
not now. 
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<p>Reddit, like El Goog, follows the new math. Sometimes two plus two is four. But sometimes it's three, or five.</p>
<p>Inaccurate numbers? I'd rather have no numbers at all.</p>
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<p>I don't have a Reddit account and I rarely visit.  The other day in  a YouTube channel that I revisited someone said there is a Reddit thread on the channel's videos.  I visited Reddit to look around.  I did this several times.  Something I noticed while the page was idle was that the number of up votes and the comment count numbers seem to rise.  This is odd because no matter what topic you scroll down to the numbers rise.  If you click on the topic the number of likes do not match the numbers on the landing page.  You scroll through the messages and they are old messages.  You just watched the message count increase, yet the messages are all several days old.  If you leave reddit, return at a later time, the numbers are back down and start increasing again.</p>
<p>What the fuck is the point of doing this?</p>
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<p>Yes, that was it.  I thought it began with a Z, and Mombo kept entering my mind, but I didn't put the two together.  That is good that it still exists, it is important for the new generation. </p>
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 The site still works.  They updated it to not use Flash.  The spinner looks
a little different. 
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<p>Now that flash is dead....</p>
<p>What was the name of that website that was a repeating animation of where the subject was all powerful, all knowing</p>
<p>I don't remember if it was "I am xxxxxx" or "This is xxxxxx" zeeboo or something.</p>
<p>Every time I remember I am not near a computer to look at the site again.</p>
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<p>lol</p>
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<p>Oh... that is gold. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 16 2021 16:52:14 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=zooer">zooer</a> </span></div>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZVjlnZomdw" target="webcit01">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZVjlnZomdw</a></p>
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<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZVjlnZomdw</p>
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<p>When I worked at the Folsom campus, out at the smoking area I took a stone and carved an "Anarchy Inside" logo onto the backpad concrete. Someone sent me a picture years later, and it was still there. <br /><br />As far as I know, I'm the only person who has successfully done graffiti on an Intel campus. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 16 2021 09:34:20 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>I'm picturing a take of 'intel inside'   'brain inside' </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 16 2021 01:43:54 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=arabella">arabella</a> </span></div>
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<p>"No real brains on board" describes more than 70% of the people I am forced, by convention, to interact with</p>
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 16 2021 09:34:20 AM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>I'm picturing a take of 'intel inside'   'brain inside' </p>
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<p>https://www.redbubble.com/i/poster/Intel-Inside-Idiot-outside-by-shizazzi/28142918.LVTDI</p>
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<p>I'm picturing a take of 'intel inside'   'brain inside' </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Jan 16 2021 01:43:54 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=arabella">arabella</a> </span></div>
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<p>"No real brains on board" describes more than 70% of the people I am forced, by convention, to interact with</p>
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<p>"No real brains on board" describes more than 70% of the people I am forced, by convention, to interact with</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Jan 11 2021 06:21:09 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>That would be my assumption. Basically a cloud terminal. No real brains on board. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jan 10 2021 23:33:55 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=ParanoidDelusions">ParanoidDelusions</a> </span></div>
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<p>So, what is in the box? Is that some sort of recognizable IoT thing? <br /><br />I know that at one DefCon, they discussed how easy it is to hack Crossing Light systems of a particular sort - that are widely deployed in Phoenix.</p>
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<p>That would be my assumption. Basically a cloud terminal. No real brains on board. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jan 10 2021 23:33:55 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=ParanoidDelusions">ParanoidDelusions</a> </span></div>
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<p>So, what is in the box? Is that some sort of recognizable IoT thing? <br /><br />I know that at one DefCon, they discussed how easy it is to hack Crossing Light systems of a particular sort - that are widely deployed in Phoenix.</p>
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<p>So, what is in the box? Is that some sort of recognizable IoT thing? <br /><br />I know that at one DefCon, they discussed how easy it is to hack Crossing Light systems of a particular sort - that are widely deployed in Phoenix.</p>
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<p>"The Cloud" made all this possible.  Someone discovered that the way to make home automation work for uneducated consumers was to make the device a terminal rather than a true home server.  Ubiquitous high speed Internet made that possible.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The abuse of the resulting power was inevitable.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>A fully autonomous home assistant is possible, but it would have to be sold at its actual cost.  Alexa and her sisters are sold at minimal to no profit because they are subsidized by the products and services tied in at the back end.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Uncoicidentally, this is why "smart" TVs are everywhere, and they don't cost much.  They are massively subsidized by deals between the manufacturer and people who want access to the end user.</p>
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<p>This video shows a train hitting a truck.  What you might like about it is that at 1:18 it shows the inside of the motor box for the gate.</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwwRLxt4BE</p>
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<p>So you like train videos.</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39JFjexSUk</p>
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<p>Either you get it or you don't.</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M19ym7c8Td4</p>
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 >Apparently a video I posted six years ago has been appearing in  
 >people's recommended list on youtube.    
 >  
 >A video of a deer being hit by a car.  I used my cell phone's camera  
 >as a dash cam and happened to catch it.  Why this is popular now I  
 >am not sure.   
 >  
 >   
 >  
  
 That's awful. Poor deer. 
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<p>Apparently a video I posted six years ago has been appearing in people's recommended list on youtube. </p>
<p>A video of a deer being hit by a car.  I used my cell phone's camera as a dash cam and happened to catch it.  Why this is popular now I am not sure.</p>
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<p>The best damn drumming today.....  (and only 11 seconds)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnlptVP2B8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnlptVP2B8</a></p>
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<p>Leave it to Germans to come up with a game that basically amounts to, "we'll probably see your panties..." <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<p>Looks like fun, here in the states it would look like lawsuits.</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Teufelsrad</p>
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 >http://links.giveawayoftheday.com/uncensored.citadel.org   
  
 Heh.  "Their most used social media is StumbleUpon with about 88% of all
user votes and reposts." 
  
 I wonder how they arrived at that conclusion. 
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 >Give AWAY of the day....       
 >http://links.giveawayoftheday.com/uncensored.citadel.org       
 >      
 >Uncensored mentioned in a book about MST3K      
 >Rich Kulawiec, MST3K.FAQ Uncensored!  Nov 12, 1993  Accessed      
 >4/26/10       
 >http://uncensored.citadel.org/omoeba-readfile.php?filename=MST3K.FAQ  
    
 >  (not found)       
 >      
 >from:  https://bit.ly/2BrrsTS       
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 >       
 >      
      
 Speaking of which, Citadel is mentioned in ADMIN Magazine #57 as an integrated
solution for hobbyists and administrators that need something cool but fast
to set up:     
    
 https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2020/57   
  
 The website is acting funky, though. I suspect they are having temporary
problems. 
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 Yes, these products are far more than just code repositories. They include
issue tracking, code review, analytics, the list goes on. 
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 >a git repo if you were too lazy to host it yourself.   
  
 Gitlab's product is available 3 different ways: 
 (1) hosted as an ASP on gitlab.com 
 (2) Community Edition open-source, install it where you want 
 (3) Enterprise Edition install-your own, with in-demand additional features
like mandatory code-review approval. 
  
 It is a really nice product, any way you slice it. 
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<p>Covid 19 truth in advertising.  Warning: more than a little explicit language used<br /><br /></p>
<h1 class="title style-scope ytd-video-primary-info-renderer">Wiener’s Circle | We’re Here For You</h1>
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<div id="count" class="style-scope ytd-video-primary-info-renderer"><span class="view-count style-scope yt-view-count-renderer"><br /></span></div>
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<p>https://youtu.be/qRLB0eFmmw4</p>
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<p>Give AWAY of the day.... <br />http://links.giveawayoftheday.com/uncensored.citadel.org</p>
<p>Uncensored mentioned in a book about MST3K<br />Rich Kulawiec, MST3K.FAQ Uncensored!  Nov 12, 1993  Accessed 4/26/10 <br /><a title="http://uncensored.citadel.org/omoeba-readfile.php?filename=MST3K.FAQ" href="omoeba-readfile.php?filename=MST3K.FAQ">http://uncensored.citadel.org/omoeba-readfile.php?filename=MST3K.FAQ</a>   (not found)</p>
<p>from:  https://bit.ly/2BrrsTS</p>
<p> </p>
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 >gitlab   
  
 Hmm.  I always assumed that github and gitlab were just places to have a
git repo if you were too lazy to host it yourself. 
  
 Is there a social/publicity element to it too? 
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<p>I like freshfoss.  Not as many projects but still has that freshmeat feel:</p>
<p>https://freshfoss.com/</p>
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<p>this is a test</p>
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 Sourceforge is a dead zone these days. It's all about github and gitlab 
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an account, no matter how long ago... 
  
 BIZX, LLC has merged with SourceForge Media, LLC.  The new company will be
called "Slashdot Media, LLC." 
  
 Yeah ... apparently Slashdot is still around, and they still suck as much
as they did when most of us stopped reading them.  SourceForge and Wirefly
and MyRatePlan are also part of the basket of goodies that "BIZX" slurped
up. 
  
 Dunno who "BIZX" is but they're in California so I assume it's the Chinese.

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<p>It is entirely possible that I will be on the Isle of Man at some time in 2021, I'll confirm when I know the dates. You can then time your visit appropriately. </p>
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be in it.  And if not, we made our own video [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayj9BXTrYZU
].  It was fun to be there, right on the same scene as all of those videos
we had watched. 
  
 There was no peeing because (1) I didn't have to go, and (2) that's gross.

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<p>.... </p>
<p>The reason you went there was to appear on youtube. </p>
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water and appear on YouTube."   
  
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<p>Did you or any family member take the time to pee in the parking lot of sadness?</p>
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<p>Yes, you are correct he does live on the Isle of Man.</p>
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<p>To visit Big Clive?  I think he lives on the Isle of Man actually</p>
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<p>I don't subscribe to the channel so if he has a fan video let us know.</p>
<p>Why don't you take a trip to Scotland? </p>
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<p>We finally made it to The Parking Lot Of Sadness!</p>
<p><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2020/20200109_154721.jpg" alt="" width="320" /> <img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2020/20200109_154604.jpg" alt="" width="320" /></p>
<p><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2020/20200109_154543%280%29.jpg" alt="" width="320" /> <img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2020/20200109_154626.jpg" alt="" width="320" height=" " /></p>
<p>My son and my cousins came with me, along with Big Butt Bear of course.  You can see that we did make some signs, but the signs only faced their cameras, not ours. </p>
<p>We're really hoping to appear in a fan video soon!</p>
<p>Now that I've been to the 11'8" bridge, and to the Parking Lot of Sadness ... what's next?  Do I have to go to Finland to visit Lauri and Anni of the Hydraulic Press Channel?</p>
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<p>Just saw the 11 foot 8 bridge, lol, some great nuggets of gold in this BBS. We have many bridges like that in England, and generally they have lots of yellow stripy paint and banners over them,</p>
<p>rather than a small sign and a digital display. :) I like it better your way though guys :D</p>
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<p>Bring a sign that says "Uncensored BBS loves GTOger"</p>
<p> </p>
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 >from the many exterior security cameras of a web/cloud hosting  
 >company's very small parking lot.  Apparently there are several bars  
 >located nearby and people park their vehicles in the private parking  
 >lot. The parking lot has several "No Parking" signs.  In his spare  
 >time one of the employees makes videos of the vehicles as they pull  
 >into the parking area, the video shows the occupants of the vehicles  
 >and what they are doing before they leave the parking lot. He edits  
 >the tow truck towing the vehicles and the reaction of the car's  
 >occupants when they return to find their car has been towed.   I am  
 >amazed at how quickly a tow truck can grab a vehicle.      
 >  
 >https://www.youtube.com/user/gtoger/videos  
  
 I've been watching this channel ever since you suggested it more
than a year ago.  It's awesome.  It's funny how the material is kind of dry,
but Oger is such a good storyteller that he makes it so much fun to watch.

  
 So it is with great joy that I can tell you that the Virtbiz site is on my
list of places to (hopefully) visit when we are in Dallas next month.  Me,
the IGlet, and Big Butt Bear are planning to drive there and wave to the cameras.
 We are hoping that we will be noticed and included in the next fan video.

  
 Who knows ... maybe Oger will come out and say hi. 
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<p>In spite of never having been there I too will miss the 11' 8" bridge.</p>
<p>My truck is 13" high, and I live in the UK. I shall miss it none the less.</p>
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 >Adblock Plus.  But I suspect it would work with any ad blocker that has
   
 >a "block element" button.     
 >     
 >    
    
 Currently I use a combination of DNS blocking an proxy filtering for advertisements.
  
  
 On a side note, on Firefox you can delete elements from the HTML code using
the web inspector, I think. 
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"block element" button. 
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 A site covers the page I'm reading with a modal saying "turn off your ad
blocker" 
  
 I respond by using the "block element" function of my ad blocker to remove
the modal, and the page now works. 
  
 So ... what I just did ... is that an ad blocker blocker blocker? 
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<p>If you liked the parking lot channel, and the 11'8" bridge channel you might like this channel.<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd6qylQWz49LNjE4xrKf3RA">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd6qylQWz49LNjE4xrKf3RA</a></p>
<p>He is a television guy.</p>
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in Raleigh all the time, but I usually don't have a car.  This time I was
traveling solo and rented a car, and happened to have time to kill on my way
back to the airport. 
  
 I figured the overheight sensor would be an active-beam infrared too, but
I looked across the street and didn't see a partner unit.  So it must use
some sort of signal that can reflect off any object.  It does seem to automatically
turn the traffic light red -- that explains why so many of the wrecked trucks
in the videos all seem to be running a red light. 
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<p>I have passed by to the west and to the east of Durham. Durham is just out of the way to make it add too much time to the trip.  I am jealous you were able to see the bridge before it was raised.  Witnessing a can being opened would have made the trip worth it.  </p>
<p>The sensor is down the street, the device in the second picture is probably the sensor, although I always thought there was a transmitter side and the other side of the street had a receiver, if the beam was disrupted the sign lit up and the traffic light would change.</p>
<p>In one of the recent videos he said that the crossing down the street was eight inches higher so raising this crossing eight inches wasn't difficult or expensive.  Raising it to standard height would be,</p>
<p><a href="http://11foot8.com/faq/">http://11foot8.com/faq/</a></p>
<p>I will agree, the height of the bridge should not have have been changed.  </p>
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<p>The 11'8" bridge should have been declared a national monument so they couldn't raise it.  Seems weird that they're only raising it to 12'4" when the standard height is 14 to 16 feet.  I suppose this will save some of the rental trucks and campers, but a full size rig will still get peeled open.</p>
<p>I visited the 11'8" bridge a few months ago.  Now I'm glad I did.  Here are some photos:</p>
<p><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144416.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144442.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144535.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /></p>
<p><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144600.jpg" alt="" width="257" height="193" /><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144636.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144657.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /></p>
<p>And I have to assume this is the camera that shoots the YouTube videos:</p>
<p><img src="http://photos.citadel.org/2019/20191003_144741.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="183" /></p>
<p>That thing that looks like a camera in the second photo is facing straight across the street.  I suspect it's not a camera, but a sensor that turns on the "OVERHEIGHT MUST TURN" sign when a vehicle passes through it.</p>
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<p>They are raising the 11'8" bridge.<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/movesafedurham/status/1185299121030217729">http://twitter.com/movesafedurham/status/1185299121030217729</a></p>
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hidden room called "webshit weekly". 
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<p>n-gate is always good for a chuckle, even when he's criticizing El Goog, HN, et al, for the wrong reasons.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>"Mozilla convinces a tech rag that it blocks ad trackers, while still shipping Google Analytics directly with Firefox. A gullible person points out some ways to help Mozilla pretend to defend our privacy, and Hackernews immediately requests a method to send money to Mozilla while ensuring none of that money helps women or brown people. Almost half the comments on the article are debating the merits and methods to do exactly that. None of them will work, because they all depend on the idea that Mozilla accepts source code from strangers who do not work for Google. The rest of the comments are Hackernews arguing about whether it's possible (or even desirable) to network two computers without advertising appearing on at least both of them."</p>
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if they made sites that had sane load times and sourced their resources from
3 hosts at most instead of 20. 
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 While a site is loading ... the site shows a mockup of what could potentially
be a greyed-out version of the page you're looking for, with greyed-out versions
of paragraphs and columns and everything.  It isn't *actually* a greyed-out
version of your actual text, it's just made to look at it. 
  
 This is st00pid.  I'd rather look at a blank page while waiting. 
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<p>Generation Iron Russia has an edited version of the event, including the silly male version of this sport. This point in the video is the main focus of this terrific sporting event which needs to expended to a world event.</p>
<p>http://youtu.be/IIKElkQxJ8U?t=127</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TCjkdUJNeM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TCjkdUJNeM</a></p>
<p> </p>
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by Generation Iron Russia." 
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<p>It is good to know that some where in the world, this is a thing.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K71lKpDuQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K71lKpDuQ<br /></a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K71lKpDuQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K71lKpDuQ</a></p>
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 and obviously in a mood today. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4457110</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 15:59:57 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4457110</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4457110@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Rabbits are... expendible. 
  
 -- Watership Down 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4456529</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:45:11 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4456529</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4456529@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Dowels are so passe.  It's all about rabbits now. 
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<p>I'm the kind of hoopy frood who always knows where her dowel is</p>
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 And do not forget your dowel. 
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<p>Don't forget your towel!</p>
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<p>Has anybody seen my towel? </p>
<p> </p>
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sure what's wrong with me. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4454383</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2019 17:30:12 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4454383</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4454383@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Ruthlessly. 
  
 By which, we mean, without Ruth. 
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<p>It is how we pass the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul</p>
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<p>Reading the rooms on Uncensored sometimes feels like reading a particular style of Science Fiction. Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy and other titles of that sort... </p>
<p><br /><br /></p>
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<p>No it was "I love you Sergio!"</p>
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<p>Was the whispered phrase "Jordash Jeans"?</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Sun May 12 2019 08:20:37 AM EDT</span> <span>from arabella </span></div>
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<p>Fleece, I was actually referencing something I saw on television in the 70s, I can't remember the name of it, but there was a constant whispering voice, which would repeat the phrase over and again. It struck terror into my heart.</p>
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</blockquote>
<p>Fleeb** </p>
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<p>Fleece, I was actually referencing something I saw on television in the 70s, I can't remember the name of it, but there was a constant whispering voice, which would repeat the phrase over and again. It struck terror into my heart.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4441649</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:24:05 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4441649</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4441649@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Dunno if any of you are familiar with "webshit weekly", a sarcastic adaptation
of Hacker News (and far more entertaining).  They're at http://n-gate.com
, and I'm enjoying it enough that I'm pulling the RSS feed into a hidden room
called "webshit weekly" if anyone wants to follow along. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4436196</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 17:16:45 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4436196</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4436196@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isPX-5Hhzkg 
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<p>They're getting closer</p>
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<p>Are we here yet?</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4434655</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 01:33:54 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4434655</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4434655@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Are they here yet? 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4427758</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:48:54 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4427758</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4427758@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[<html><body>

<p>They're coming</p>
<p>/vaguepost</p>
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<p>Now if they'll make it possible to trivially download and install it without relying on Javascript faggotry shitting up their website, I might actually use it.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4426683</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:00:19 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4426683</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4426683@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Ok, this is pretty cool. 
  
 [ https://dissenter.com/ ] 
  
 Dissenter is a "comments section" like Disqus, run by the people at Gab.
 You know Gab, the free speech network that the establishment keeps trying
to shut down with false claims of hate speech. 
  
 The really cool thing about Dissenter is that it can be used on sites where
the webmaster HAS NOT INSTALLED IT.  Using a bookmark or a browser extension,
you can go to a Dissenter comments section for any page on any site anywhere.

  
 I like this.  I like it a lot, actually. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4421374</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 22:35:45 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4421374</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4421374@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[You know what ... I've become a big gtoger fan.  There's something wonderful
about those videos. 
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<p>Not as good as the 11'-8" channel but very entertaining.  Two things that amaze me.</p>
<p>1) The drivers of the tow trucks are very good at what they do.<br />2) There must be a lot of drunk drivers on the road, many of those people come back to that parking lot unable to walk straight.  I am glad their car was towed.</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Aug 27 2018 09:39:03 AM EDT</span> <span>from IGnatius T Foobar </span></div>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">I didn't know the 11'8" bridge was in Durham NC. I travel to that area from time to time. Next time I'm there with a rental car (not a 12' high rental truck) I'm going to have to go see it. </span></blockquote>
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<p>I pass close to Durham now and again but I don't want to go out of my way to see the bridge.</p>
<p>I found another channel you might like, it is the edited video taken from the many exterior security cameras of a web/cloud hosting company's very small parking lot.  Apparently there are several bars located nearby and people park their vehicles in the private parking lot. The parking lot has several "No Parking" signs.  In his spare time one of the employees makes videos of the vehicles as they pull into the parking area, the video shows the occupants of the vehicles and what they are doing before they leave the parking lot. He edits the tow truck towing the vehicles and the reaction of the car's occupants when they return to find their car has been towed.   I am amazed at how quickly a tow truck can grab a vehicle.   </p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/user/gtoger/videos</p>
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<p>"Despite the image of the Scrubbing Bubbles mascots, the product does not actually feature bubbles with bristles, which could potentially cause a number of problems with disposal."</p>
<p>Thanks, Wikipedia.  We needed to be told that.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4372883</link><pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2018 13:39:03 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4372883</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4372883@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >If you visit the channel you are required to leave one of ten  
 >comments outlined below:   
  
 ...for moderately large values of ten. 
  
 That was a pretty cool video to read the comments on, for two reasons: 
  
 1. I noticed you there 
  
 2. Someone actually found the damaged truck afterwards 
  
 I didn't know the 11'8" bridge was in Durham NC.  I travel to that area from
time to time.  Next time I'm there with a rental car (not a 12' high rental
truck) I'm going to have to go see it. 
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<p><img src="data:image/png;base64,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<p>Ahh yes...</p>
<p>If you visit the channel you are required to leave one of ten comments outlined below:</p>
<p> 1) "THEY SHOULD RAISE THE BRIDGE!!!"</p>
<p>  2) "I must be the first person to suggest lowering the road!"</p>
<p>  3) "You need a camera on the other side of the bridge"</p>
<p>  4) "Can opener!"</p>
<p>  5) "Hope they got the extra insurance!"</p>
<p>  6) "Hey did you notice (insert something that everyone noticed)"</p>
<p>  7) "I am from some country in Europe and bla bla bla bla bla."</p>
<p>  8) Something about traffic citations.</p>
<p>  9) "Box truck to flatbed!!"</p>
<p> 10) "That will buff out!"</p>
<p> 11) CDL/Know your height referance.</p>
<p> 12) Must be a member of some political party.</p>
<p> 13) Must be an illegal</p>
<p> </p>
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 Here's a fun little story of domain hijacking. 
  
 Phishing?  Forgery?  Breaking into the registry? 
  
 Nope ... just break into the owner's home and rob the domain at gunpoint.

  
 [ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/legal/dude-gets-20-years-in-the-slammer-for-attempting-to-hijack-domain-at-gunpoint/
] 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4358663</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:35:04 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4358663</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4358663@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Yeah, that's the impression I have. 
  
 Until the industry standard changes such that the quality of that training
is part of accountability, nobody will actually care. 
  
 This will likely require a successful lawsuit. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4357916</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 02:27:19 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4357916</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4357916@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Most people say 'training' and mean 'sit at a boring set of web pages 
 
 >or video and press shiny buttons at statements you'll just as quickly  

 >forget.'   
  
 You have to understand their objective. 
  
 It isn't "train people to use technology in a secure way." 
  
 Rather, it is "check the box that shows we did security training, so we can't
be held negligent for lack of training if there's a breach." 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4355098</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:52:28 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4355098</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4355098@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I think there's a difference between people who know policy and procedure
and those who deal with network and machine level stuff..... 
  
 Too many people in "security" are nothing more than auditors who have taken
some courses. 
  
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354873</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 15:27:10 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354873</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354873@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I wasn't so much thinking that the folks would be paraded around and laughed
at as much as some shadowy and mildly scary component of the company approaches
you with Very Bad News that might act as a kind of built-in incentive not
to repeat mistakes. 
  
 'cause folks make mistakes, and you tend to learn best from those mistakes,
so let's find them. 
  
 LS is right, though.  It's frightening how ignorant even the folks trained
in cyber security really are about cyber security. 
  
 I get the impression that, for hackers, the current state of affairs is a
bit like shooting fish in a barrel. 
  
 To be fair, I don't consider myself to be especially great at it, either.
 I've done port scans, used meterpreter to break into unpatched flavors of
Windows, and even broken into a ridiculously old Linux machine, but they were
all scripted, composed environments built for education, not live situations
in the real world (because, y'know, I'm not interested in jail time, and I'm
more interested in helping people learn about this stuff). 
  
 But when I see folks earning an income as a cyber security expert, yet can't
even work out how to find the user's within a Windows operating system (or
Linux, for that matter), or other basic sysadmin tasks, I wonder what exactly
*is* a cyber security expert. 
  
 We hire interns who know more than these alleged cyber security experts.

  
 (Hint: when will the bubble burst in this brave new field, and who will find
themselves still standing?) 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354861</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 14:18:06 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354861</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354861@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > fleeb - being made an example of is always a life lesson.   
  
 See, there's always another bug. So busting heads and trying to make examples
just gets you ignored. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354860</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 14:15:40 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354860</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354860@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > There's a person in my company who argues we need mandatory security  

 >training, and that for people who don't take it, it should be a   
 >"compensation limiting event".   
 >    
 > I've decided to create a company drinking game.  GDPR and   
 >"compensation limiting event" are two of my favorites.   
  
 I don't know about "compensation limiting event", but we now have a formal
GDPR training class which is being referred to as "mandatory." This covers
things like what is PII, how to handle it and how not to handle it. "Mandatory",
I assume to mean a career-limiting event rather than a compensation-limiting
event. 
  
 This is not to be confused with security training. Nobody understands security
in this industry, even if they've been trained on it. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354850</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 13:35:26 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354850</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354850@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Ragnar - I think I'll play that drinking game remotely. Of course I'd be drunk
by 9 am. (Okay, I'm a lightweight, but I'd be drinking a lot)  
  
 fleeb - being made an example of is always a life lesson. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354834</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 12:34:04 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354834</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354834@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Heh... security... 
  
 Most people say 'training' and mean 'sit at a boring set of web pages or
video and press shiny buttons at statements you'll just as quickly forget.'

  
 Few people mean 'have the security team attempt to break into their own networks
through phishing schemes or other pentesting techniques and drag the folks
who enabled any found breaches into a brief training session that demonstrates
just what the fuck happened so it becomes real to them.' 
  
 Becuase the latter involves real, serious effort, while the former is just
a bandaid to a larger problem. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4354810</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 10:52:37 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4354810</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4354810@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2018-05-31 00:52 from IGnatius T Foobar   
 >This week I had to go complete a "mandatory security training"   
 >crapfest. I always just skip the presentations and fly through the   
 >test, since it's all pretty old and/or obvious stuff.   
 >    
 > But ironically, to complete an evaluation on data security, I had to  

 >disable two security features of my browser: popup blocking and Flash  

 >blocking.   
 > \   
 >   
 >  
  
 There's a person in my company who argues we need mandatory security training,
and that for people who don't take it, it should be a "compensation limiting
event". 
  
 I've decided to create a company drinking game.  GDPR and "compensation limiting
event" are two of my favorites. 
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I always just skip the presentations and fly through the test, since it's
all pretty old and/or obvious stuff. 
  
 But ironically, to complete an evaluation on data security, I had to disable
two security features of my browser: popup blocking and Flash blocking. 
 \ 
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 Heh... the hint is in the word 'flash'. 
  
 The cool kids these days use 'HTML5'.  Because it's all caps, not pronouncable,
and isn't owned by anybody. 
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Apr 19 2018 09:49:19 EDT</span> <span>from fleeb </span></div>
<div class="message_content">
<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />"Your flash player is outdated." <br /><br />Gads. </div>
</div>
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<p>How did you know? Yikes!!</p>
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 "Your flash player is outdated." 
  
 Gads. 
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<p>I'm amused that this is still around:</p>
<p><a href="http://igopolis.myminicity.com/">http://igopolis.myminicity.com/</a></p>
<p>(If y'all click on the link, IGopolis will get larger.)</p>
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<p>https://9gag.com/gag/aMAn8BP</p>
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<p>Ahhhh.... the chosen one.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4288550</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:51:02 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4288550</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4288550@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I was able to view the page, and my cat started freaking out, as if it saw
a laser pointer, or a rabbit... 
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<p>My link worked for me in both the text client and the web client.</p>
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<p>I think your link is supposed to be </p>
<p> </p>
<p>http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com</p>
<p> </p>
<p>(without the /(space) ) at the end.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Funny thing was I just visited this page today, and then checked here, and it was linked... </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Hint.. View the source for a surprise...</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jul 23 2017 11:41:32 AM EDT</span> <span>from zooer </span></div>
<div class="message_content">
<p>Some of you have have a void in your life now that Abe Vigoda has passed, I present a website to fill that void.</p>
<p><a href="http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/" target="webcit01">http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ </a></p>
<br /><br /></div>
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<p> </p>
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<p>When it destroys the world it will let you know.</p>
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<p>Does it display an error page because the large hadron collider has already destroyed the world?</p>
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<p>Some of you have have a void in your life now that Abe Vigoda has passed, I present a website to fill that void.</p>
<p>http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4273541</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2017 14:36:15 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4273541</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4273541@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I have to say, this is fantastic: 
  
 http://digg.com/2017/ruthless-pupper 
  
 The very end, when the puppy just looks into the camera... awesome! 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4260537</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 23:52:03 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4260537</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4260537@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Fair enough.  Go retweet it, as it is teh most worthy and noble cause EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

  
 (There, I went way past fifteen bangs, and added some 1's and invoked the
word "teh" for good measure.) 
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<p>I can not take your request seriously there are less than 15 exclamation points after "**EV<strong>A</strong>R**", in fact there are none.  You misspelled 'evar' as well.</p>
<p> </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4247804</link><pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 17:13:16 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4247804</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4247804@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Seriously, do it now. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4247803</link><pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 17:13:11 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4247803</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4247803@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 THIS IS THE MOST WORTHY AND NOBLE CAUSE **EVER** 
  
 [ https://twitter.com/carterjwm/status/849813577770778624 ] 
  
 If the above Tweet gets retweeted 18 million times, he will get a year's
supply of free chicken nuggets from Wendy's. 
  
 IF YOU DON'T RT FOR THE NUGGS, AT LEAST RT FOR THE LULZ 
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 That's closer to the universe. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4223147</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:14:25 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4223147</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4223147@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[You mean the periodic table? 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4223131</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2017 12:22:18 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4223131</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4223131@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 It might be amusing to create a web site that provides a parts list for The
World. 
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 I've found the World's Biggest Selection online.  And it isn't from eBay
or Shamazon. 
  
 [ http://www.intexcorp.com/store/above-ground-pools/replacement-parts/ ]

  
 Replacement parts for Intex pools.  Their list of parts goes on LITERALLY
forever.  (Actually, it's an infinitely scrolling web page that shows the
same items over and over again.) 
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 And then I noticed this: 
  
 https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Zombo.com 
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 TIL that you can easily bypass profanity filters on web forums, by inserting
U+200B in the middle of "banned" words.     
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<p>It doesn't appear that jQuery is going to disappear anytime soon.  It's <em>everywhere.</em> </p>
<p>On the other hand ... <a href="http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/">http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/</a></p>
<p> </p>
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 Despite the ridiculous nature of the article, I think people still use jQuery
quite a bit.  I see it used within Rails, etc., often with Bootstrap to help
make everything look a little nicer with less effort. 
  
 Heh... getting away from OOP... "functional" programming... makes sense when
you're working with web pages (since pages don't exactly store state), but
I don't expect you can use that hammer with everything. 
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<p>Yikes.  It's poseur city, isn't it.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think I'm gonna stick with jQuery.  It's 2016 and I'm just getting myself out of the Prototype+Scriptaculous prehistoric era.</p>
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<p>https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f</p>
<p>hmmmmmm....</p>
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 "Now we can add, edit, and remove room categories to in the hotel from."

  
 -- http://www.amooma.de/screencasts/2015-01-22-nested_forms-rails-4.2/ 
  
 I think, even in German, that might be a few too many prepositions thrown
together to make sense. 
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 Finding an application that you host on your own server, but provides a thin
client interface to the application from any reasonable PC works very nicely
for corporations who want to save money on upgrades (by just upgrading the
server without having to upgrade all the little clients). 
  
 But, if the application isn't available for hosting on your own server, yeah,
it sucks. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4121564</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 17:43:11 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4121564</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4121564@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm *only* talking about the user interface.  The application software can
be located anywhere -- in the cloud, on your own organization's server, or
even on the same computer the browser is running on. 
  
 Douchebaggery from application vendors comes in lots of flavors.  A lot of
value comes with the monthly fee for an application: not only ongoing development
and upgrades included, but also backups, maintenance, etc.  In the end it's
only expensive compared to pirating the software and doing all of your own
system administration. 
  
 That having been said, I wouldn't pay for something like that, because I
prefer open source software and operating my own servers. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4121508</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:09:31 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4121508</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4121508@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[From a technology perspective, it's all fine.     
    
 However, for small businesses, it kind of sucks.  Want Photoshop?  Sure.
 Pay $29.99 a month.  Forever.   
  
  
 And it's like this with too many applications.  They track everything you're
doing, and you're paying for the privilege.   
  
 At least with client side apps, if the system still runs, you can keep it
going (as long as it meets your needs) almost indefinitely.   
  
 You've got the control of when you upgrade or need new features.   
  
 And let's not talk about the security of a variety of cloud based apps. 
  
 Again, technology wise, it's all good (well mostly good - have any apps that
are reliant on a hybrid and can't reach the mothership?  Boy is THAT annoying.)
 
  
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4121486</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:56:28 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4121486</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4121486@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Like I said ... totally indistinguishable.  If it opens into its own window,
with its own icon, and hides the browser controls ... you shouldn't even know
it's a browser based app.  That's the goal.  Furthermore, if you're using
a browser that opens each site in a separate process (Chrome does, dunno about
others) then the interaction between the application and other browser activities
at the OS level should be minimal. 
  
 That's the objective, anyway.  We're not 100% there yet.  But we're close.

  
 Remember the old days, when UPS and FedEx made you install dedicated software
on your computer if you wanted to track a package?  Imagine how ridiculous
it would be if they asked you to do that today.  Now extrapolate that, and
think about the dedicated applications you're still using today. 
  
 (Damn this bagel is good.  Not relevant to the discussion, but I'm having
breakfast right now.)

  
 Why use native for anything?  Browsers can now display accelerated graphics,
run client-side logic, interact with the user's mouse and keyboard, and now
they're even learning how to do bidirectional audio and video.  In this world,
the browser *is* the operating system.  The direction this can go in, ultimately,
is one where the DOM is actually the operating system's native graphics toolkit,
much like high-end 1980's workstations tried to make Display PostScript the
native graphics toolkit. 
  
 The applications that I have open all the time that aren't a browser are:
a terminal program, a soft phone, and an instant messenger.  All three have
already been implemented as web applications, but in the case of the soft
phone and instant messenger, the vendors my organization uses (Cisco and Microsoft)
haven't evolved past the native clients yet.  For the terminal program, I
will eventually put up a Guacamole server. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4110237</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 22:24:02 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4110237</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4110237@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Except finding it when you have 10 browsers open.  
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4108460</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:38:27 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4108460</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4108460@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Yes, I get that, but the browser people are definitely working towards eliminating
any remaining issues in that category.  You can open a web application and
have it launch into its own window, no browser controls visible, top-level
icon set to whatever is appropriate ... totally indistinguishable from a native
app. 
]]></description></item><item><link>https://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Web%20Stuff?start_reading_at=4108261</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:38:02 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4108261</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4108261@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[IG - It also becomes just one more browser window open to try to find things...
Much better to have it's own icon as an app. 
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<p>If I knew about that before, I learned why I don't use it.</p>
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<p>I have no idea what room is the room where we were discussing browser tabs.  I tried the trick of dragging it to the desktop, it opens another version of the browser. This is NOT what I am looking for.  That made things much worse.  </p>
<p> </p>
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simply by dragging it out onto the desktop, don't you?  And if the browser
is Chrome, every tab (or window) runs in its own process and address space,
so there's really no difference between a browser based program and a native
program. 
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<p>The "Awesome bar" is not awesome.  I do not like searching from the location bar.  If only you could turn it off, I shouldn't have to see my search results in the location bar when I start to type.</p>
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<p>You can pin tabs, which makes them permanent and gives them a smaller area to click.  Not really helpful.  They should allow you to color or rename your tabs, that would help.</p>
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what I'm looking for?? <click><click><click>.... 
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<p>I always end up switching workspaces instead of tabs.</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Aug 22 2016 20:43:16 EDT</span> <span>from wizard of aahz </span></div>
<div class="message_content">
<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I'm still a fan of some things being apps instead of in a browser. When you have 27 browser windows open it can be a pain to find the app you want. </div>
</div>
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<p>There is this fancy new thing called "tabbed browsing" coming up. I do not think it will stay with us, though...</p>
<p>But seriously, I think the same. Especially interaction between tabs is annoying.</p>
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<p>Jebus chrips are the only videos currently on youtube Galaxy Note 7 unboxing videos?</p>
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have 27 browser windows open it can be a pain to find the app you want. 
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will be implementable using only a web browser.  This is generally considered
a Good Thing compared to having to install software on the client computer
(and having to maintain client software for five operating systems).  It probably
won't be at "bandwagon" stage until the vast majority of users have a browser
that supports the required features.  Give it a year or two. 
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<p>Does that mean that we have to jump the bandwagon?</p>
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to use any other technology for interactive applications.  Two way audio,
two way video, and now some of the browsers are starting to support screen
sharing over WebRTC.  With any luck, in a year or two the idea of installing
an executable or a plugin to run Webex, Gotomeeting, Skype, Lync, or any other
such application will be ludicrous. 
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<p>Hm, somebody ranted about phone conferences in some room, but I couldn't find it again, so I post this here:</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Build your own phone company with WebRTC and a weekend: </span>https://webrtchacks.com/own-phoneco-with-webrtc/</p>
<p class="p1">There is a good piece of hipster webtechnolofy involved, but it reads like a fascinating and impressive technology. Dunno how reliable, though. </p>
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 ><http://i.imgur.com/Jfv6F2r.png>   
  
 Well, that's one way to validate your input... I guess... 
  
 I can't wait to see the new version that handles international phone numbers
outside of the NANPA region! 
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<p><br />Oh..... okay, I have seen that before and yes it is pretty bad.  Oddly enough when I looked this morning before I entered my other post it was a picture of a giraffe with cats on top of it.</p>
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list for the world's worst phone number entry UI.  
  
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<p>Okay... what am I missing? I don't understand the question or how the question relates to the image.</p>
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 >pretending to be Konqueror pretending to be Netscape.   
  
 This comment is missing some parentheses, possibly nested and distributed.

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<p>This is the user-agent string sent by "Edge" (the replacement for IE in Windoze 10, still not useful for much other than downloading other browsers)</p>
<p><tt>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.135 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.10240</tt></p>
<p>So it's Edge pretending to be Safari pretending to be Chrome pretending to be Konqueror pretending to be Netscape.</p>
<p>Can we <em>please</em> just agree that parsing the user-agent header is now completely useless, and just put the name of the browser in there?</p>
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 how to build a better form. 
  
 http://sebastianlyserena.dk/ 
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<p>Heh.  I thought it was going to be one of those "imminent death of the Internet predicted!" but it's actually the web is DOOM, not doomed.  Nicely done.</p>
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<p>https://mobiforge.com/research-analysis/the-web-is-doom</p>
<p>And just about a week ago I was searching data like this...</p>
<p>The article describes how much websites have grown since 2011 and the number is pretty impressive.</p>
<p>I would have loved to see some cpu load numbers, since I do not believe that the amount of shipped js will make that grow just linear.</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 15 2016 13:16:09 EDT</span> <span>from zooer </span></div>
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<p>I thought that this was an interesting elevator (German?)  I like the push buttons for the floor selector.  Also there doesn't seem to be doors on the elevator, just outside doors on the floor.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0cDfpp0lGw" target="webcit01">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0cDfpp0lGw</a></p>
<p>I think they had the best solution, don't try to communicate with the people on the other side of the door, just push buttons.</p>
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<p>I guess from an american POV Norway is technically germany. </p>
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<p>For all practical purposes, he is.  :(</p>
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<p>I am not sure what I was thinking when I posted that.  I wish I could blame it on drinking but I can't.  I was tired, for some reason I thought <span style="color: #333333; font-family: nyt-franklin, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 18px;">Kasich was on the democratic ticket.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: nyt-franklin, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 18px;">(sigh)</span></p>
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<p><img src="data:image/png;base64,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
<p>Must mean Sanders is ahead in Ohio.   (Oh where'd ya go Ohio?)</p>
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<p>I thought that this was an interesting elevator (German?)  I like the push buttons for the floor selector.  Also there doesn't seem to be doors on the elevator, just outside doors on the floor.</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0cDfpp0lGw</p>
<p>I think they had the best solution, don't try to communicate with the people on the other side of the door, just push buttons.</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Mar 04 2016 01:10:01 AM EST</span> <span>from ax25 </span></div>
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<p>Set up a Veronica-2 server to crawl it (or something sorta like it)?</p>
<p>- i.e. indexing the dark web question from I.G.</p>
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<p>Ok, so I was mostly trying to be funny, but what I found was even more funny.  I figured I would search for the pre-cursor to Veronica search and see if it related to the "dark net":</p>
<p>searh : "dark net archie search"</p>
<p>Pulls up this as the top link:</p>
<p>https://www.deepdotweb.com/grams-search-darknet-marketplaces/</p>
<p>Which, you have to dig up - search : "sonic grams archie comics"</p>
<p>and find this:</p>
<p>http://info.sonicretro.org/Category:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Archie)_comics</p>
<p>I have to admit, I love the historical references here.  It probably does not work as a search engine, but at least they kept the theme alive.</p>
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<p>Set up a Veronica-2 server to crawl it (or something sorta like it)?</p>
<p>- i.e. indexing the dark web question from I.G.</p>
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<p>elevatorfan.com is DieselDucy (Andrew from VA) ... yeah, he's the uncontested biggest name in the elevator fan scene.  He's been doing it longer, and does it more, than anyone else out there.</p>
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<p>Hey, you can't call it the CitaNet, because that name is trademarked by some dude in New Jersey who doesn't like other people using it.  :)</p>
<p>So ... I know how to <em>connect</em> to the Darknet ... what I don't know is how to <em>navigate</em> the Darknet.  I don't know how we would get the word out that there's a new destination people can try.</p>
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 >I'd shut it down.  Or move it to the darknet.  And I'd remodel my  
 >bathroom so that the toilet faces 31 degrees northeast and put green  
 >tile on the floor.  
 >  
  
 I'm sure that moving the entire CitaNet to the dark web might actually be
an improvement, and just possibly could re-introduce the flavor and excitement
of the Golden Age (1982-1991)!! 
  
 I, for one, say Let's Do It!!  <evil grin> 
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<p>I am sure you know about this site.<br /><span style="color: #555555; font-family: inherit; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.3em; white-space: pre-line;">http://www.elevatorfan.com</span></p>
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<p>Nice.  I'm a fan of Big Clive ... I love watching him take apart LED stuff :)</p>
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<p>Elevator video.</p>
<p>Old electric/mechanical elevator control unit, for those who like elevators.<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Dvg7DhCtg  (12 mins)</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>I'd shut it down.  Or move it to the darknet.  And I'd remodel my bathroom so that the toilet faces 31 degrees northeast and put green tile on the floor.</p>
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<p>So if the "new" internet and the UN took over and said that all users must identify themselves with their real names and that uncensored must be censored to comply with UN approved comments what would become of uncensored? </p>
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censorship as damage and routes around it" but the moment the UN takes over,
we'll have to worry about blasphemy laws. 
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<p>I saw a new error code on the internet today.</p>
<p>A <a title="451 error" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_451" target="_blank">451 error</a>.  (From Wikipedia)</p>
<p>In computer networking, HTTP 451 Unavailable For Legal Reasons is an error status code of the HTTP protocol to be displayed when the user requests an illegal resource, such as a web page censored by a government. The number 451 is a reference to Ray Bradbury's 1953 dystopian novel Fahrenheit 451, in which books are outlawed.[1] 451 could be described as a more descriptive variant of 403 Forbidden.[2]</p>
<p>Examples of situations where an HTTP 451 error code could be displayed include web pages deemed a danger to national security, or web pages deemed to violate copyright, privacy, blasphemy laws, or any other law or court order.</p>
<p>However, some sites may be forced to produce HTTP 404 (File Not Found) or similar if they are not legally permitted to disclose that the resource has been removed. Such a tactic is used in the United Kingdom by some internet service providers utilising the Internet Watch Foundation blacklist, returning a 404 message or another error message instead of showing a message indicating the site is blocked.[3][4]</p>
<p>The status code was formally proposed in 2013 by Tim Bray, following earlier informal proposals by Chris Applegate[5] in 2008 and Terence Eden[6] in 2012. It was approved by the IESG on December 18, 2015.[7]</p>
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<p>I hate when 404 errors redirect me to a search engine, but this was the first time I came across this.  It was for a bakery/cafe that recently changed name/owners, the website was under the new owner's/business name and I clicked on it from Google maps.</p>
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<p>Junge! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kids</p>
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<p><img style="border: 2px solid black;" src="data:image/jpeg;base64,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
<p> </p>
<p>http://www.funnyjunk.com/Uncle+pol+is+always+right/funny-pictures/5273887/5</p>
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 That's kind of ironic. 
  
 Science seeks to find the simplest explaination that fits observation. 
  
 One could come up with several other more complicated views of the problem,
but the simplest one wins. 
  
 Yet, people perceive it as 'complex'.  Heh. 
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<p>Complex but correct.</p>
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<p>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZRK1dBW0AAIQTw.jpg:large</p>
<p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZRK1dBW0AAIQTw.jpg:large" alt="" /></p>
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<p>One of my favs, and the link was better.</p>
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<p>UTF-8-Character of the day:</p>
<p><a href="http://danluu.com/file-consistency/#fnref2">↩</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>;-)</p>
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<p>Drunk on facebook:</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coavTGQ_8O8</p>
<p>(from the team that brought you the "we did the varoufakis finger-fake"-fake)</p>
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<p>VPS seems a good idea. Your right, not much dearer atall. </p>
<p> </p>
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and it gives you the full control you need to install an application like
Citadel Server. 
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<p>Mo, you should be able to run on a small vps (around $5 - $20 USD / mo) - depends on what you need for resources. When I first installed Citadel, it was a self hosted at home with dynamic dns service on an old AMD K5 with 128 MB ram.  I switched from Exim running on an old 486 with 32 MB ram, so I figured 128 MB was plenty.  Turns out, it was :-)</p>
<p>Currently, I use a vps with 8 mb for citserver, and about 16 mb for webcit.  The bulk of the ram goes to spamd (currently at 76 mb).  The VPS I use has 512MB with about 3 users (5 total, but only about 3 active most days).</p>
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<p>Looks like i would have to get a VPS or self host for sure. Didn't hurt to ask though.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Thanks Dothebart! I'll ready the wiki first next time :). Glad i asked, maybe the ISP would be interested in offering citadel to it's customers, aswell as the two webmail programs that come as standard (squirellmail and roundcube)? </p>
<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Mon May 18 2015 21:56:36 EDT</span> <span>from mo </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Citadel on a shared hosting plan</span></div>
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<p>I am gonna get a shared hosting plan one of these days, to run a wordpress powered website, and just wondered if i could run a citadel on it, (rather than host at home, or on a VPS ). </p>
<p>The ISP i am considering use debian on their servers, so i contacted them just in-case they already have heard of citadel. They would install citadel-suite from the debian repositories for me, but what would be the best way for them to manage citadel on a 'shared' server? Here is the end of their email to me.</p>
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<p>So going back to the shell account: if we type "apt-get install citadel-suite" to our shell account server, that will certainly pull in all the packages. But from just a very brief glance at the front page, I'm predicting that it's going to want to "own" at least the mail system on the server.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Can you tell us a bit more about what it is you're wanting to do? Possibly we can work out some way to hook it into our existing systems and does what you need.</p>
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<p>http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:can_i_install_citadel_on_a_shared_web_hosting_account</p>
<p>its going to have more priviliges than they will want to admit to you.</p>
<p>For shure you can disable port 25, 587, 443 imap, imaps, pop3... But if you're aide you could re-enable it.</p>
<p>however, you could use the citadele only with port 504 federation, and with webcit behind an apache proxy.</p>
<p>therefore they should only install citadel-server and citadel-webcit (which will not demand to become the mta)</p>
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<p>I am gonna get a shared hosting plan one of these days, to run a wordpress powered website, and just wondered if i could run a citadel on it, (rather than host at home, or on a VPS ). </p>
<p>The ISP i am considering use debian on their servers, so i contacted them just in-case they already have heard of citadel. They would install citadel-suite from the debian repositories for me, but what would be the best way for them to manage citadel on a 'shared' server? Here is the end of their email to me.</p>
<blockquote style="position: static; z-index: auto;">
<p>So going back to the shell account: if we type "apt-get install citadel-suite" to our shell account server, that will certainly pull in all the packages. But from just a very brief glance at the front page, I'm predicting that it's going to want to "own" at least the mail system on the server.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Can you tell us a bit more about what it is you're wanting to do? Possibly we can work out some way to hook it into our existing systems and does what you need.</p>
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 >real people?  I think I am going to have to shit this website down   
 >again on Jan 1st 2014. [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D a   
  
 Speaking of being dead, I must say that the continued operation of this site
15 months later is remarkable evidence of life after death. 
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 (It's NSFW due to language, nothing more). 
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 These are two rather entertainin web sites (NSFW) someone pointed out to
me: 
  
 http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ 
  
 and 
  
 http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ 
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 > Fake Steve Jobs won't be able to publish in China anymore.    
 >    
    
  
  
 WHAT??!!!  If we can't fake being dead people how can we fake being real
people?  I think I am going to have to shit this website down again on Jan
1st 2014.[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Da 
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<p>I have to say I'm quite surprised with FCC chairman Tom Wheeler with respect to Net Neutrality.</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://www.wired.com/2015/02/fcc-chairman-wheeler-net-neutrality/">http://www.wired.com/2015/02/fcc-chairman-wheeler-net-neutrality/</a> ]</p>
<p>Prior to his appointment to the FCC, Wheeler was a cable and telecom lobbyist.  It was generally predicted that he would simply turn the wishes of pigopolists like Comcast into official FCC regulations.  As it turns out, however, he's actually making a sensible set of proposals to the Commission regarding Net Neutrality.</p>
<p>Pretty much everyone observing the issue from a political perspective has got it wrong.  They see it as an issue of giving control of the Internet to the government vs. giving it to corporations - which finds me, as a conservative, landing squarely on the "wrong" side of the debate.  The "scarce resource" here is the last-mile connection to every home and business.  Companies which operate these resources are granted artificial monopolies, or at least duopolies, which means they absolutely have to be regulated in order to keep them from abuse.</p>
<p>Wheeler is proposing the imposition of Title II protections on broadband Internet service, essentially cementing it as a common carrier.  Predictably, Comcast/AT&amp;T/Verizon are crying foul, while everyone else is cheering.</p>
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<p>Hm.  It seems that Communist China is now forcing everyone to use their real names online.</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/us-china-internet-censorship-idUSKBN0L80ZF20150204">http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/us-china-internet-censorship-idUSKBN0L80ZF20150204</a> ]</p>
<p>In particular, impersonation for entertainment is explicitly banned.  Fake Steve Jobs won't be able to publish in China anymore.</p>
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<p>So I read today, that an old Opera guy came up with a new browser called Vivaldi. Just trying it and it is amazingly fast and looks totally nerdy. Although it is only a tech preview, I am in love!</p>
<p>Link: http://vivaldi.com (the .net domain belongs to them, too, as it seems, but is for their socialist stuff)</p>
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 From the "die in a car fire" department: 
  
 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYOTERciOU ] 
  
 Before putting out a car fire, make sure the parking brake is set.  Otherwise
the vehicle turns into a flaming missile as it cruises down the hill... 
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<p>censored in germany.</p>
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<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69CCsfaZlA</p>
<p>Whaaaaat?</p>
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 The politicians? 
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<p>Who won?</p>
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 Yeah, some of those 'audio descriptions' seem... off.  Although some of them,
like 'speaking Japanese' make perfect sense given the point of the captioning
isn't to translate, but to convey the sounds.  The 'snarls not like a dog'
thing is hilarious, though.  Someone didn't know what to put there, I'm guessing.

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<p>A view of danes from an american:</p>
<p>http://www.thelocal.dk/20140907/five-danish-life-lessons-for-the-rest-of-us</p>
<p>(there are similarities in germany, but not everything is the same)</p>
<p>I like his comments about public health care - until very recent you had to pay 10E each quarter year if you would go to the doctors, they dismissed this now in germany.</p>
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http://www.theuselessweb.com/



I found several that amused me, including this one
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<p>Practical joke on a Dragon Hunter fan. </p>
<p>Boarderline SFW (nothing overt, just implicit....but it might make you laugh out loud)</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZqoh2aUW7g</p>
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 Ah, very nice! 
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<p>I don't know if this is the right place for this but here it is:</p>
<p>I have a recommendation for a calendar program. It is a stand alone calendar, non networked but is the best little calendar program i have found on the web.</p>
<p>It might not be for everyone but it is quite a powerful  program, and its written by one guy and free under the GPL.</p>
<p>BORG is the name, and i just noticed the author added support for syncing with a caldav server.</p>
<p>http://mbcsoft.com/joomla30/index.php/borg   </p>
<p> </p>
<p>One for the record, i love it!</p>
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<p>I do shop there, but I only find the ad campaign mildly amusing, too. </p>
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<p>The 16 year old exchange student from Germany is only slightly amused.  Mostly amused / repulsed by the image of the old guy in the bathtub of milk.</p>
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<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlN1pZqO8Zo</p>
<p>the original song.</p>
<p>However, I think the edeka version superseedes this one rather then anything else.</p>
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 That's an interesting ad campaign. 
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<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxVcgDMBU94</p>
<p>new tv comercial of german supermarket. super geil!</p>
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<p>Ah, did not notice the topic moved on from Owncloud.  Miss-parse on my part, sorry.</p>
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<p>There is some Django involved</p>
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Feb 20 2014 04:21:51 PM EST</span> <span>from dothebart </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: On the web no one can eat icecream...</span></div>
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<p>oh, python ;-)</p>
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<p>Nope, php.  But thanks for playing.</p>
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<p>oh, python ;-)</p>
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<p>I think I asked here about an open source cloud solution for business use and somebody told me it was obvious to use owncloud.</p>
<p>Well a friend of mine had some consultants test it for his company, the result was devasting:</p>
<p>They have about 20gb of files and 16k files or something along those numbers. Now owncloud is written in a way that it checks each and every file's hash with the sync server for changes. So in his scenario, a computer had to be continually online for 48h to check if any of those files was actually changed.</p>
<p>And this is not a bug, it is the way it works, they were told by upstream.</p>
<p>Today, these numbers of files and gb are not really uncommon, I guess. Think about movie and audio collections...</p>
<p>My clients do not have to sync barely 6gb in 1k files, but I am currently trying Seafile. Looks nice, relatively easy to install and seems to work so far.</p>
<p>http://seafile.com</p>
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 Heh.  I typed "<grin>" after a snarky comment on a Disqus thread, and Disqus
decided to show me how smart it thinks it is by "closing my tag for me" and
adding "</grin>" at the end. 
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<p>My wife says that I can't buy a fleet of them.  Bummer, it would have been both fun and stupid at the same time.</p>
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 Do you really give a flying fuck? 
  
 If so, you're putting this in someone's gift basket: 
  
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002P4J2P8/ref=as_li_ss_tl 
  
 (I want a fleet of these.) 
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<p>And apparently, lots and lots of cheese....</p>
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plain and pepperoni? 
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<p>Combine the two and have an adult pizza shop!</p>
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<p>Ugh, my stomach does not agree with that kind of architecture. Luckily, we have enough "real deal" italians all over the country so we are spared by the Hut.</p>
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 Stuck on a moronic phone call and looking for something to keep me awake,
I just perused the entirety of this blog: 
  
 http://usedtobeapizzahut.blogspot.com/ 
  
 A lovely and scenic tour of establishments in buildings that used to be Pizza
Huts.  The iconic roof humps and trapezoidal windows truly are magnificent
accomplishments of architecture. 
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 At my previous job, we used Google extensively. 
  
 They provide storage, email, a very nice way to collaberate on writing documents
that can be turned into PDFs, and so on.  You can choose to share what you
want from the storage. 
  
 But it isn't open-source.  Well, their APIs are open source, but their technology
itself isn't.  If you can't get to the internet, you can't use them.  But
if you're talking about cloud solutions, you're already going to need constant
access to the internet, so that shouldn't be a problem. 
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<p>Just wanted to know if there were any alternatives to check out, wether I should have a look into OpenNebula or OpenStack or some such thing.</p>
<p>Or if anyone could tell me about hosted solutions. OwnCloud is high up on the list, since there are apps for every major mobile OS.</p>
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identify why that's not a solution? 
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<p>Three of my clients have been asking me for a while now, if it was possible to "give some people access to the local nas", via their dsl.</p>
<p>I think that is beyond stupid for several reasons, so I try to propose a dedicated server with some open source cloud software, hence I am asking for your advice.</p>
<ul>
<li>The clients all know each other, they have their offices in the same building, they already share printers and meeting rooms.</li>
<li>All of them need to share stuff for inhouse employees who work on building sites, etc.</li>
<li>All of them need to share lots of 50-100mb pdfs with sub contractors. (They are architects and need to share building plans)</li>
<li>Some of them need to share stuff with partner companies.</li>
<li>Most of the files are project related.</li>
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<p>The software should be easy to use and one of their more tech savvy employees should be able to operate it, set permissions, create project based shares, etc. It should be a bit like dropbox, some things should be accessible without authorization, some things should be locked by passwords.</p>
<p>Any thoughts or hints?</p>
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