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And should i get into how much death and destruction has taken place at the hands of people 'doing their particular gods work'. It out shadows everything else evil mankind has done over its history..
just more evidence its all a fabrication to force people to conform and contribute and obey.
Then why was it edited and edited over the generations to fit
narratives of the day? There is a clear difference between new
I don't approve of the mormon or catholic versions either.
And should i get into how much death and destruction has taken
place at the hands of people 'doing their particular gods work'.
I don't approve of islamic terrorism either.
The christian crusades were not pretty either. "thou shalt not kill" "well, unless it fits our purpose of course"
( i have heard estimates of 8 million people were killed in those.. )
Tue May 27 2025 19:31:48 UTC from IGnatius T FoobarAnd should i get into how much death and destruction has taken
place at the hands of people 'doing their particular gods work'.
I don't approve of islamic terrorism either.
2025-05-27 16:55 from SouthernComputerGeek
You speak as if evolution and science mean the same thing. Like
you can't teach science without teaching evolution. As if
teaching evolution is not teaching atheism.
I don't think teaching evolution is teaching atheism. Even if it came into conflict with arahamic religions, it might not come into conflict with a different religion. I doubt evolution as a concept is incompatible with animist religions, for example.
2025-05-27 22:43 from IGnatius T Foobar
Europe is falling because we stopped doing Crusades. Look who's taking
over now.
I was about to mention that. The big mistake of the crusades was not getting the job done in full.
I don't think teaching evolution is teaching atheism.
Nope. Evolution is more or less compatible with old earth creationism.
However: teaching atheism IS teaching religion.
Tue May 27 2025 15:54:06 UTCfrom Nurb432Related: im curious, how do you square off in your tiny little mind that we find fossils of humans and other animals that are far older that whatever arbitrary 'age of earth' you believe in? Or do you just close your eyes and pretend that science isn't real? I think your magic book says around 6k, but we have hominid fossils some 300 thousand. The oldest 'animals' go back i think around 3billion. And age of rocks, even further..
I'm a young-Earth creationist. During the great flood of the days of Grandpa Noah, ocean currents changed on a daily, if not hourly, basis. Sediments would wash up from the South one hour and down from the North the next. After the flood waters receded, all the layers hardened at once. The reason there were less mobile species in the lower layers and more mobile species at the higher layers was that they were trying to get to higher ground but their abilities to do so varied proportionately. The proof of this occurring is that a fossilized tree stood upright long enough to be covered by multiple layers of sediment. Obviously, the top of the tree wasn't 50 million years younger than the bottom.
As for carbon dating, it's all relative to a baseline measurement. If the time guesstimates are inflated, so will the derived measurements be. The precision of the readings is also relative to the half-life of carbon-14 being measured with high enough precision.
I was taught evolution theory in my religious private school, as well as a number of reasons why it doesn't contradict creationism.
First: Evolution is a general term and it's description isn't what's supported by evidence. What is supported by evidence is punctuated equilibrium - There were periods of very little change and periods of rapid change.
Second: six days of creation is six ERAS, not 6x24 hours.
Third: the Torah (or bible) isn't a history book; it's a philosophy book, so everything in it that doesn't jibe with evidence could be there to teach a different lesson.
In short, evolution isn't proof that the torah/bible is untrue, it's evidence that our interpretation may be incorrect.
Tue May 27 2025 16:55:52 UTC from SouthernComputerGeekYou speak as if evolution and science mean the same thing. Like you can't teach science without teaching evolution. As if teaching evolution is not teaching atheism.
It's one reason my parents never sent me to a public school. They did not want me being taught to be atheist, or that homosexuality is normal, or any of that BS.
Tue May 27 2025 16:52:22 UTC from Nurb432Science and religion can co-exist. They are not mutually exclusive.
Sure, there are some places you run into issues, but just because you teach science does not mean you are teaching people not to believe how they want. Unless of course you are an authoritarian and everyone must fall in-line.
Tue May 27 2025 16:21:15 UTC from SouthernComputerGeekAh yes, it's different when schools teach kids to be atheists. Wretch.
First: Evolution is a general term and it's description isn't
what's supported by evidence. What is supported by evidence is
punctuated equilibrium - There were periods of very little
change and periods of rapid change.
Second: six days of creation is six ERAS, not 6x24 hours.
Right. What you're describing is commonly referred to as "Old Earth Creationism" and it's a completely valid belief system. As noted above, we have both Old Earth and Young Earth people here. I'm fine with both because neither one denies the existence of an omnipotent God/G-d who began it all.
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Thu Jul 10 2025 22:09:46 UTC from Nurb432Church burning?
The true Church is not a building. It's the occupants. I hope you weren't meaning that you were burning people at the stake. That would be what we did to witches. :-O (Somehow that didn't sound as funny as I intended.)
Wouldn't that be a great retribution act. All the witches stand up and burn the predators in the public square.
Fri Jul 11 2025 13:11:15 UTC from SamuraiCrow. That would be what we did to witches.
Fri Jul 11 2025 13:15:18 UTC from Nurb432Wouldn't that be a great retribution act. All the witches stand up and burn the predators in the public square.
Fri Jul 11 2025 13:11:15 UTC from SamuraiCrow. That would be what we did to witches.
Actually, looking at history, It's politics as usual. The vacation from it was nice though.