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[#] Sat Jul 12 2025 20:38:31 UTC from Nurb432

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"that is it about Epstein" ( Bondi )  And her statement about the video recording missing a minute ( of the WRONG cell btw.. ) .. what the f..  

"why are you still talking about him"  ( Trump )

 

I know people who honestly thought we would see papers.  AND JFK too..    The lies are so comical everyone knows they are lies. But its DC, no one can do a thing about it.

 

 



[#] Sun Jul 13 2025 21:45:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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People who call themselves "Libertarian conservatives" (oxymoron by the way) are the worst. They hate American industry, they hate traditional values, and they tend to be "ItS ThE JeWs!!!" nutcases. Oh and also one told me to kill myself on IRC.



[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 16:10:38 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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But something about IRS now approving non-profit churches to
promote political parties/candidates.

I'm not happy about that, if it's true ... but to some extent, there are a lot of churches that go so poilitical that they don't even need to mention candidates by name, it's clear by the "causes" they push.

Let's start with the obvious one: any church that displays a pride flag is apostate.

It gets worse from there. Back before my daughter got her driver license I used to drive her to the campus, about a 25 minute drive that took us past a Quaker church that has one of those letterboard signs. We noticed one day that instead of a message about an upcoming sermon or event, the sign read "GUNS ARE THE #1 KILLER OF CHILDREN". We looked at each other and agreed that a church person ought to know that abortion is the #1 killer of children.
But the Quakers were traditionally known to be peaceniks, so we figured, give them a wide berth on that. Unfortunately the messages got worse and worse until one day we passed by and instead of there being a message on the board there was a guy jumping up and down waving a sign reading "BLACK LIVES MATTER" (in an upscale, majority-white area of town).

That's not a church, that's a democrat party office that might have a Bible somewhere in the basement that no one ever bothers to open.

Does it get worse from there? Of course it does. A "religion of peace" that promotes killing Jews has no business being tax exempt either.

Does it get even worse from there? Yup. The infamous Unitarian Universalit "church" is a far-left hate machine whose tax exempt status is nothing short of a deliberate scam.


So where do I stand on the issue? My church (which stays out of politics) would have some real hardship if we had to pay zillions of dollars in taxes. I would say keep the tax exempt status, but stay out of politics entirely. Don't allow open endorsement of candidates, and make it clear that any political activity at all will endanger your tax exempt status. If you're displaying a pride flag, or announcing "black lives matter" or "globalize the intifada" you're not a church and you don't get the exemption.

[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 16:12:25 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hmm Desantis is supporting Musk in creating a 3rd party.

That whole thing is falling apart already. Musk is known to be manic/depressive and he has giant swings, and he opens his mouth during all of them. He's a scary smart dude and he's done a lot of good for the world, but if he thinks he's going to fracture MAGA after all we've already been through, he hasn't thought it through.

Ross Perot 2.0 isn't going to do any better than 1.0

[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 16:20:52 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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So Elon's Grok "AI" is now calling itself "MechaHitler".

It isn't the first time an AI has trended towards nazi tendencies, and it won't be the last.

In an ironic application of Godwin's Law (but NOT the corrolaries) I wonder if there is a natural tendency for computers to analyze the human condition and reach the same conclusion that Hitler did -- that humanity would be well served by standardizing on a single superior race and a single superior form of government?

If you think I'm advocating what the nazis did, think again. If this is the case, the computer is making the same mistake the nazis did: failing to take the nature of humanity and perhaps spirituality into the equation. If one is cold, calculating, and inhumane, the nazi worldview makes sense. If you are an actual human, it's terrible.

Of course, the introduction of people into the model corrupts the whole thing. Since these models are all trained on the Internet, they are corrupted by the far left's tendency to label anyone to the right of Mao as a "nazi", and the tendency of the playful alt-right to pretend to act like nazis just to piss them off. And the model sees both sides and fails to understand that one side is playing a game and the other side are just morons.

A strange game. The only winning move is to nuke Harvard.

[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 16:51:17 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Wouldn't it be ironic if the Muslim candidate won only for NYC
to get nuked by Iran? The irony of it all!

The potential exodus could be a problem. You know that quiet suburb that Benny Johnson went viral for exposing as AOC's actual childhood home? I live there. It's quiet, it's bucolic, it's actually a red-leaning town. And if NYC goes ultra-commie and sharia-like, we don't want to take up the exodus.

[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 20:06:00 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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People who call themselves "Libertarian conservatives" (oxymoron
by the way) are the worst. They hate American industry, they
hate traditional values, and they tend to be "ItS ThE JeWs!!!"
nutcases. Oh and also one told me to kill myself on IRC.

As a libertarian and a conservative I think I must take exception to that assertion. Unless your use of the capital L refers to the Libertarian Party, of course. Those people are just democrats who also want legalized drugs.

I do self identify as both a libertarian and a conservative. I want the government to get out of everything that isn't strictly necessary for it to be in. I believe everyone should have access to machine guns. I am against gay marriage but in favor of it being legal. I want everyone from AOC to Alex Jones to have full access to the public square to say anything they want.

And I have never understood the rationale behind blaming Teh J00z for everything. In fact, I find that to be an easy tell for whether someone is an *actual* bigot.

[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 20:20:10 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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Frankly I believe the obergufel decision has been bad for society and should be reversed. If that makes me a "bigot" then so be it.

 

Honestly the definition of "bigot" makes it seem like a very subjective term to me.

 

Bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I mean, most people are tolerant of those with opposing views/actions to some degree, but most people (myself included) also have limits to said tolerance. Does that make everyone a "bigot"?


[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 20:29:08 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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One of the few honest explanations of the Vietnam war you will ever see: https://pjmedia.com/catherinesalgado/2025/05/01/fall-of-saigon-and-wsj-why-are-americans-still-lying-about-vietnam-n4939417

 

(pasted here in its entirety because it is behind a paywall)

 

Fall of Saigon and WSJ: Why Is American Media Still Lying About Vietnam?

 

The Wall Street Journal attracted criticism after it marked five decades since the deadly fall of Saigon to the Communist Vietnamese with the headline, “Vietnam Celebrates 50 Years Since End of War.” Even half a century later, American media are still telling the story of the war from the perspective of the mass murdering dictators whom we allowed to win it.

On April 30, 1975, a tragedy occurred as Saigon fell to the brutal, mass murdering Communist Viet Cong forces. After winning every battle of the war (as even a local expert admitted to me in Vietnam), Americans were forced by the government to evacuate, leaving behind an unknown number of free Vietnamese to be massacred by the Communists. It was a black week indeed in America’s history. Yet WSJ’s headline on its print edition framed the anniversary as a happy celebration for Vietnam, which is still under the thumb of impoverishing, tyrannical, evil Communists. Other mainstream outlets followed suit.

War Room host Steve Bannon slammed WSJ and its owners, the Murdochs, for the headline, emblazoned above an image of Vietnamese soldiers. Equally bad, however, was the Financial Times’ headline and opener, displaying shameful Trump Derangement Syndrome, and complete with an image of female Vietnamese troops in full dress uniforms:

Vietnam hails ‘victory of justice’ as it marks 50 years since end of war 

Celebrations come as Donald Trump’s tariffs threaten to strain progress made in US-Vietnam relations in recent years

AP babbled, “Vietnam celebrates 50 years since war’s end with focus on peace and unity.” ABC News’ headline was nearly identical: “Vietnam celebrates 50 years since war’s end and focuses on peace.” Orwellian rewriting of history in real time. Vietnam veterans were horribly treated when they returned from the war, and the disrespect continues, as does the total lack of interest in the victims of the tyrannical government, both 50 years ago and still today. Persecution against Christians is still harsh, for instance.

FlashbackHonor Our Heroes on Vietnam Veterans’ Day

It is sickening and shameful how hard it still is to do any honest research on the Vietnam War since most Americans seem to have agreed now as then to accept the Communist version of what occurred, making many false accusations against Americans while basically ignoring the absolute slaughter that ensued after the Viet Cong took over the whole country. It was disturbing to me (especially since my great-uncle died in the war) to go to the war remnants museum in Saigon and find that a whole section of the museum simply used Western newspapers to propagandize about American soldiers. Who needs homegrown Viet Cong propaganda when you can just quote leftist U.S. media? WSJ and company are apparently joining in that inglorious tradition of helping our enemies smear our soldiers.

Recommended: Islamic Attacks on Nigerian Christians Escalate

We will probably never know the true number of how many the Viet Cong, famed for their vicious and perverted acts, slaughtered, but we know they killed at least a million civilians, besides the death toll of American and free Vietnamese soldiers killed during the war. You can read some details here about Viet Cong atrocities, but be aware that the content is highly graphic. Just as Americans disgustingly march now in support of Hamas jihadis, during the Vietnam War, they marched in support of savage Communist terrorists.

Navy vet Frederick Shacklett later remembered the chaos and crisis of the evacuation of Saigon, with dozens of helicopters ditched or thrown off the side of aircraft carriers to make room for ever more helicopters and planes trying to land with South Vietnamese and American forces. “I will never forget April 1975. I remember it like it was yesterday,” Shacklett said. Terry Ohlemeier, a Silver Star recipient who ultimately flew one of the last helicopters out of Saigon (perforce stranding millions of free Vietnamese with Viet Cong butchers), was a friend of my father’s who would never talk about his experience. It was so scarring.

The American leftist media is lying on behalf of genocidal Communist tyrants. Please spread the truth about the Viet Cong and honor our Vietnam War veterans, both living and deceased.

 



[#] Tue Jul 15 2025 11:45:55 UTC from darknetuser

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So where do I stand on the issue? My church (which stays out of

politics) would have some real hardship if we had to pay zillions of

dollars in taxes. I would say keep the tax exempt status, but stay out

of politics entirely. Don't allow open endorsement of candidates, and

make it clear that any political activity at all will endanger your tax

exempt status. If you're displaying a pride flag, or announcing "black

lives matter" or "globalize the intifada" you're not a church and you

don't get the exemption.


Personally I think nobody ought to pay taxes, since they are fuel to let the government screw everybody's butt.

This is probably less of an issue in the US, but organized religion "somewhere else" actually serves a cultural function. Some countries have centuries upon centuries of History behind them and that means they have religious fortresses, temples and hospitals every three yards. A lot of these keep working in a sustainable manner because there are monks or priest of whatever maintaining them. I think keeping and taking care off a 600 year old temple loaded up with artwork and historically meaningful manuscripts - which are all accesible for free for visitors - is a commendable task.

The debate about whether organized religion should have tax exemptions pops up very often around this land of mine. While my argument is that temples ought to have a tax exemption because everybody should have, the usual counter argument is that organized religion serves no purpose. While I disagree with organized religions at a philosofical level, I think they do serve a purpose.



[#] Tue Jul 15 2025 11:52:51 UTC from darknetuser

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In an ironic application of Godwin's Law (but NOT the corrolaries) I

wonder if there is a natural tendency for computers to analyze the
human condition and reach the same conclusion that Hitler did -- that

humanity would be well served by standardizing on a single superior

race and a single superior form of government?


Whoever it might pain, things work much better for a given society when there is cultural homogeinity. If everybody in my town shares the same core values -stealing goats is bad, marrying before your 7th birthday is bad- then things work much better than if everybody has different ideas. I think it is wild we pretend cultural dissonances don't matter at all - that a typical Western won't be bothered if 15% of the population in his town believes in caste systems or considers marriage arrangement acceptable.

In practical terms things work much better if you move to a place where your worldview is well regarded. Which means I am taking too long to leave my country already.

[#] Wed Jul 16 2025 14:52:26 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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Andrew Tate is gay.



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