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[#] Fri Jun 12 2026 13:06:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Odd. I remember seeing one when i was shopping on my own. i thought it was an apple brand, perhaps i was wrong and just mis-read. When i got my last office-laptop it was an option, but silly priced so i opted out to avoid getting the entire thing denied and didn't look closer at the time ( We are a PC shop, so Apple takes a bit of string pulling and i only had so many strings i could pull ). 

Now i don't see it, tho i do see they sell an exclusive 3rd party product in their store for about $350..   What i remember was also not a 'shove laptop into' like a lot of PC laptops, but a USB box that sat beside.

Fri Jun 12 2026 12:43:52 EDT from setho
As far as I know, Apple doesn't sell any sort of dock at all.....

 



[#] Fri Jun 12 2026 17:42:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The laptop I bought for my daughter last year (Lenovo V15, under $400) has ethernet.  The rest of us have Dells of various types (some consumer grade, some business grade) and they all have ethernet.  I honestly haven't seen a non-Apple laptop without an RJ45 port on it yet.  Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.  I'll definitely take a quick scan the next time I'm in a store that has them on display.

As for "docks" ... nobody has them anymore, because everything is thunderlightning now.  The little port bricks are now our docks.  And yes, they all have Ethernet in them.



[#] Sat Jun 13 2026 09:36:13 EDT from Nurb432

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That is what i was meaning, i guess i was a bit confusing, tho a lot of people refer to them as such.

Now, that said, at the office, we still get the 'clip it in/on' style too, for "PC" laptops.  Not real sure what to call them now.  PC is a bit too generic, cant call them X86 either now, as non apple ARM laptops ( and desktops ) do exist.. and that market is about to explode here soon. And cant really call them 'windows laptops' since aside from reloading at home, you can buy some with Linux ( sure, not a lot. but they do exist )

Perhaps just "laptop" and "Macbook" and "PoS" ( for the ones that run windows. lol )

Market is too grey these days for everything.   

Fri Jun 12 2026 17:42:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Hotel networks

 The little port bricks are now our docks. 



 



[#] Sat Jun 13 2026 20:47:06 EDT from Nurb432

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Saw an Asus Zenbook today. No Ethernet. 



[#] Wed Jun 17 2026 07:05:31 EDT from darknetuser

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2026-06-12 17:42 from IGnatius T Foobar
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The laptop I bought for my daughter last year (Lenovo V15, under
$400) has ethernet.  The rest of us have Dells of various types
(some consumer grade, some business grade) and they all have
ethernet.  I honestly haven't seen a non-Apple laptop without
an RJ45 port on it yet.  Maybe I'm looking in the wrong
places.  I'll definitely take a quick scan the next time I'm in
a store that has them on display.

Anything cheap and consumer-grade seems to come with... limited options. My mother got a cheap ultra-compact HP laptop for work and it came without RJ45.

Lenovos don't seem to me to be trying to catch the low end of the spectrum and in fact when somebody asks me to source an ok work laptop, I tend to grab a second hand Lenovo for the task (depending on availability). Anything they sell as a business or mid-range comeswith ethernet it seems.

[#] Wed Jun 17 2026 12:18:20 EDT from Nurb432

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I doubt the profit is as high on 'consumer models'.

We had them here a while ago, but had to ditch them since IBM set them free. "Direct" China sourced, we cant do that here. And ya, i know its all a scam since many parts come from there and Taiwan all the time, but gotta play the game at times. 

Wed Jun 17 2026 07:05:31 EDT from darknetuser Subject: Re: Hotel networks

Anything cheap and consumer-grade seems to come with... limited options. My mother got a cheap ultra-compact HP laptop for work and it came without RJ45.

Lenovos don't seem to me to be trying to catch the low end of the spectrum and in fact when somebody asks me to source an ok work laptop, I tend to grab a second hand Lenovo for the task (depending on availability). Anything they sell as a business or mid-range comeswith ethernet it seems.

 



[#] Thu Jun 18 2026 18:32:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Saw an Asus Zenbook today. No Ethernet. 

My new understanding is that they are omitting the ethernet on "ultra ultra thin" models.

That must be why I'm not seeing it; I have no interest in laptops that want to be tablets.

Of course, if you're "docked" via the little brick, your Ethernet is already USB.

Speaking of which, I just pulled the trigger on this little bit of fun:
[ https://www.tesmart.com/products/hks401-m24 ]

I got tired of switching both the monitor and the usb rig when switching machines so I ordered this KVM. I've had bad experiences with them before, but now they seem to have really good switching chips that emulate EDID towards all hosts, so they all believe the monitor is attached all the time, even if you turn the monitor off.

Bringing the conversation full circle: TESmart put an Ethernet switch into the KVM, and it presents a USB Ethernet adapter to all attached hosts (not just the one currently being displayed).
Now I'll be able to switch between my work and personal machines without having to do 6 clicks on the monitor stick and another on the USB switch.
And it's a four port, so I can plug my server into it and also add my ARM brick.

That having been said, I'm sure I'll leave the server on its own dedicated Ethernet port.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing that Ethernet trick made available as a dedicated device. Imagine an ethernet switch with one actual ethernet port and the rest were just USB-C with the adapters embedded inside the box. That would be cool.

[#] Fri Jul 03 2026 00:34:52 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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You guys are killing me. I think we know how to break rules, and we all assume a lot of the general public knows too - but maybe it is just general public that knows nerds like us to guide them - and even then - it is about 20% of my non-nerd friends who come to me for advice on how to connect - almost all of them just prefer convenience. 

 

 



[#] Fri Jul 03 2026 07:18:07 EDT from Nurb432

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I always say only about 5% can get around the nonsense, and perhaps 10% more ask for our help. The others, just get in line and drink the Kool-Aid as they are told, as they dont even know to ask. "its just how things work, right?" But even at  the high end of 15%, the conglomerates ( and governments ) still win, due to the sheer numbers.

Fri Jul 03 2026 00:34:52 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

You guys are killing me. I think we know how to break rules, and we all assume a lot of the general public knows too - but maybe it is just general public that knows nerds like us to guide them - and even then - it is about 20% of my non-nerd friends who come to me for advice on how to connect - almost all of them just prefer convenience. 

 

 



 



[#] Mon Jul 13 2026 10:49:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Then that works for us.  The 85% are subsidizing us.  Let them pay the bills and watch the ads and cover the costs.

 



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