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That is too bad. I could see a value in being able to get to clearnet
servers via the darknet server.
That is the perogative of the server operators. If their desire is to protect the anonymity of the users, rather than to protect the anonymity of the server operator, then it makes perfect sense to operate on both the clearnet and the darknet.
Example 1: UNCENSORED! is reachable on both I2P [http://uncensored.i2p] and clearnet [https://uncensored.citadel.org]
Example 2: Fecesbook is reachable on both Tor [facebookcorewwwi.onion] and clearnet.
Very different examples, right? Facebook can only be used for evil, but Uncensored is always used for good. It's a tool, and a tool is only as good as the craftsman who is using it.
So they actually make an electric firetruck. No thanks. "hang on, we are still charging from our last run, good luck on your house fire"
What you do is you find a free shell service that you can reach with
Tor and use that to connect and register and setup your SASL key.
Free shells which allow connection to IRC servers usually need some deanonymizing information from you, using phone number verification or stuff like that.
2024-04-12 19:27 from Nurb432
I wonder when all this stuff is outlawed.
I know stopping it is harder, but they can shut down any mention of
it on the clear net and prevent 'the masses' from ever knowing about
it. And if you get caught using any of it its considered instant
guilt. Wont matter what you are using it for, just having it
installed would be enough. so easy to prosecute.
They are not outlawing it even in the worst countries on Earth. Usually they just try to block it.
Nowadays a Tor connection can be disguised as something else no ISP would want to block (say, a connection to a popular website behind Cloudflare) so censorship is only working well enough in countries that would rather break their Internet at a national level than let you browse a banned website - and there are some.
The biggest threat against the usefulness in Tor these days is censorship in the clearnet network Tor exit nodes operate at. A recent complaint from Tor operators is that people in shit countries take the trouble to jump into Tor in order to browse some anti-government website from an European exit node and the European network is banning the website itself. Imagine a Russian disident tries to reach an anti-Putin site, but the EU has the site banned because it is Russian. You get the idea.
I was asked to remove Brave from my work computer simply because it *has*
a Tor client built in, even though I wasn't using it......[3 Sometimes the
corporate brass can be more oppressive than your local government.
What about StarLink? Is that going to get banned in oppressive regimes?
We already know how much the authoritarians hate Elon.
What about StarLink? Is that going to get banned in oppressive regimes?
We already know how much the authoritarians hate Elon.
Not yet. I expect it to as govermnts keep cracking down on freedom.
And ya, it can be gotten around by 'insiders' but once you cant even talk about it, 'outsiders' wont even know it exists.
Mon Apr 15 2024 15:16:51 EDT from darknetuserThey are not outlawing it even in the worst countries on Earth. Usually they just try to block it.
Nowadays a Tor connection can be disguised as something else no ISP would want to block (say, a connection to a popular website behind Cloudflare) so censorship is only working well enough in countries that would rather break their Internet at a national level than let you browse a banned website - and there are some.
The biggest threat against the usefulness in Tor these days is censorship in the clearnet network Tor exit nodes operate at. A recent complaint from Tor operators is that people in shit countries take the trouble to jump into Tor in order to browse some anti-government website from an European exit node and the European network is banning the website itself. Imagine a Russian disident tries to reach an anti-Putin site, but the EU has the site banned because it is Russian. You get the idea.
At some point, they may just destroy his birds if he does not comply.
Mon Apr 15 2024 16:29:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar.
What about StarLink? Is that going to get banned in oppressive regimes?
And ya, it can be gotten around by 'insiders' but once you cant even
talk about it, 'outsiders' wont even know it exists.
Ah, isn't that always the case? But as they say, information wants to be free. And it is our eternal struggle to make it that way.
OMG. I just had the most AMAZING nap. Three hours, in bed, ultra-restful
sleep and I woke up REFRESHED. I feel incredible right now. Slept so deeply
that I had nested dreams. I didn't think I'd have such a good nap since I
ate a greasy lunch right after church and then went straight to bed; usually
that makes me feel kind of gross. Not this time. I feel GREAT!
Hello everybody. I hope you had a great week while I was absent. I have had
a very rotten week myself.
For starters, somebody stole a sign from a store I used to run. My country is the sort of shithole in which you close your store because you aren't selling crap, but the Universe thinks you have not had enough so your sign is torn off the front wall too. Who the fuck steals a sign they cannot sell or use? I mean, the name of the store is featured prominently on it. Does a thief think they can sell a sign that reads "DARKNETUSER'S HORSE SUPPLIES"? At least it seems insurance will cover for it, which it is acually a good thing all-in-all because I'd rather have the money than the sign at this point.
Also, my oldest dog died while I was working outside and I only learned about it when I returned back home latter on the week. We already knew her health was failing - she had a brain stroke earlier this year, from which she recovered quickly - but the news were still devastating. She was the sort of dog who would always
try to be with me while trying to remain unnoticeable... I would sit down to work and then wonder why she had not walked up and laid by my chair alongside the rest of the dogs, only to discover she was there already, not missing any of my moves but not daring make a noise should she disturb my concentration. It is hard to realize the absence of a dog who always tried to remain unnoticed is so noticeable.
For starters, somebody stole a sign from a store I used to run. My country is the sort of shithole in which you close your store because you aren't selling crap, but the Universe thinks you have not had enough so your sign is torn off the front wall too. Who the fuck steals a sign they cannot sell or use? I mean, the name of the store is featured prominently on it. Does a thief think they can sell a sign that reads "DARKNETUSER'S HORSE SUPPLIES"? At least it seems insurance will cover for it, which it is acually a good thing all-in-all because I'd rather have the money than the sign at this point.
Also, my oldest dog died while I was working outside and I only learned about it when I returned back home latter on the week. We already knew her health was failing - she had a brain stroke earlier this year, from which she recovered quickly - but the news were still devastating. She was the sort of dog who would always
try to be with me while trying to remain unnoticeable... I would sit down to work and then wonder why she had not walked up and laid by my chair alongside the rest of the dogs, only to discover she was there already, not missing any of my moves but not daring make a noise should she disturb my concentration. It is hard to realize the absence of a dog who always tried to remain unnoticed is so noticeable.
:(
Mon Apr 22 2024 07:45:02 EDT from darknetuser
Also, my oldest dog died while I was working outside and ..
2024-04-22 11:56 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
:(Mon Apr 22 2024 07:45:02 EDT from darknetuser
Also, my oldest dog died while I was working outside and ..
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All righty then. Somehow I managed to start my coffee maker without the carafe in place. The counter and floor had a nice pot of coffee. Making another one for myself now. It's going to be a great day?
Ill trade you.
7 hours meeting about service now.
Wed Apr 24 2024 09:26:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
All righty then. Somehow I managed to start my coffee maker without the carafe in place. The counter and floor had a nice pot of coffee. Making another one for myself now. It's going to be a great day?