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[#] Thu Dec 02 2021 10:12:57 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: BeagleV Not dead afterall

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Not from Beagle, but the board may still come out.  That is a good
thing.  Proliferation of cheap boards in the RPI/ARM marketspace
should help with future mainstream adoption of RISC-V, outside of
IoT.  

Mainstream adoption is good, especially if it eventually results in a fully open computer. Maybe someday Sam Falvo will resurrect the Kestrel project under another name.

[#] Fri Dec 03 2021 12:23:18 EST from Nurb432

Subject: NVIDIA and ARM

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Welp, that is the end of that.  Too bad. I suspect in the long run it would have been a good thing, due to the money NVIDIA has behind it.  Hard to say of course, as it could have ended bad for ARM IP holders, but wont ever know now now it was going to end for everyone.

I wonder if NVIDIA will switch to RISC-V instead, and create an proprietary IP set extension as F-U to regulators on both sides of the pond.  Then we all lose.

 

https://www.eetimes.com/ftc-tosses-monkey-wrench-into-nvidia-arm-deal/



[#] Fri Dec 03 2021 16:57:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Looks like RISC-V is making a bit of a resurgence. Here's a cheap chinesium SBC whose manufacturer is declaring it the successor to the BeagleBoard:

[ https://www.techradar.com/news/a-risc-v-raspberry-pi-rival-is-about-to-hit-the-market ]

Although I'm not sure what good it does to have a fully open architecture if the board and chip are both made in communist china. Almost guaranteed to be pre-compromised.

[#] Fri Dec 03 2021 18:04:07 EST from Nurb432

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Should be the same board as i was mentioning above :) 

Anything you buy is pre-compromised. Be it china, UK, USA.. 

Fri Dec 03 2021 04:57:24 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar
Looks like RISC-V is making a bit of a resurgence. Here's a cheap chinesium SBC whose manufacturer is declaring it the successor to the BeagleBoard:

[ https://www.techradar.com/news/a-risc-v-raspberry-pi-rival-is-about-to-hit-the-market ]

Although I'm not sure what good it does to have a fully open architecture if the board and chip are both made in communist china. Almost guaranteed to be pre-compromised.

 



[#] Sun Dec 05 2021 18:01:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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It's the same board. I was conflating it with the Phytium computer mentioned in between. :(

As for the Nvidia/Arm deal, the FTC blocking it simply means that the correct people have not been bribed yet. The US government operates exactly the same way the Chinese and Russian governments operate; the only difference is that we pretend it doesn't.

I'd *like* for Arm to remain independent of any individual manufacturer, or at least be stuck in a situation like x64 where multiple vendors have to license each others' technology (the failure of Itanium was a blessing for us all). RAND sounds good in theory but in practice it's still just a single vendor who can do whatever they want.

I like to think that all technology eventually trends towards being open, but that trend has to outpace innovation for it to be worthwhile.

[#] Wed Dec 08 2021 14:28:48 EST from LoanShark

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very impressed with Intel's Alder Lake chips. The Golden Cove cores are about what you would expect - big and power-hungry and an incremental improvement over everything else for single-thread performance.

But those Gracemont cores really shine, they're 1/4 the size and yet competitive with recent other chips on performance. That small size is really exceptional and AMD doesn't have anything that can compete apples-to-apples.

I want a server chip with like 256 Gracemont's. That'd be the real deal.

[#] Thu Dec 30 2021 20:27:09 EST from Nurb432

Subject: Mini RISC-V

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Still on the low end, but seems like its complete enough for it to function.  Would be in older RPI territory i imagine.

https://liliputing.com/2021/12/this-5-dock-turns-the-17-sipeed-lichee-rv-into-a-fully-functional-risc-v-computer.html

Ordered 2 of them. 



[#] Sat Jan 01 2022 14:28:53 EST from Nurb432

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Finally got around to replacing that i5 with a xeon in that spare lenovo tiny that i pulled out of my farm as a guinea pig.

A good 2x the speed, for ~ 100 bucks.  Its now faster than the i7 i have been using.  Enough it 'feels' faster and not just 'stats'.



[#] Tue Jan 04 2022 18:08:42 EST from LoanShark

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I upgraded my dad's PC from a Haswell to an i5-11600 sevea few months ago. I was quite surprised at how much faster it is in single-threaded work: about 3X faster in loading his big Excel file that used to take 15 minutes. Now takes 5.

[#] Tue Jan 04 2022 18:46:54 EST from Nurb432

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After using it for a full day, not so sure its an improvement from my i7 in 'real world' use.  I can 'tell' its faster but nothing real tangible. 

Now, moving from the original i5 it had, ya, definite impact.



[#] Sat Jan 08 2022 10:40:29 EST from Nurb432

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Figures, my little RiscV board i was mentioning above will be here in a couple of days.  Then this is announced:

https://shop.allnetchina.cn/collections/starfive/products/starfive-visionfive-ai-single-board-computer



[#] Sun Jan 09 2022 14:33:22 EST from Nurb432

Subject: 99 dollar chrome book

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[#] Mon Jan 17 2022 18:17:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Is this a different RISC-V computer than the one previously mentioned?

[ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-alternative-mango-pi-risc-v-sbc ]

The "
"mango pi" is RISC-V based and appears to be positioned in the same space as the Raspberry Pi Zero.

It has an "Allwinner D1" SoC so I have to assume that the system is fully integrated with Red China, so it's not something you'd put in a privacy-focused homebrew computer. Apparently, however, RISC-V support in Linux is moving into the mainline kernel, so that's good news.

[#] Mon Jan 17 2022 18:22:42 EST from Nurb432

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i saw that today too, and its the same chip + peripherals so basically the same thing bit a bit more $ than the one i got ( that i have yet had time to make boot. Stupid U-Boot )

I honestly dont worry about the 'made in china' risk.  Its no more or less risky than getting Intel or AMD here in the states, who we know have had stuff embedded for decades. ( vpro ). To me its a wash, as anything other than FPGA is compromised at some level.  And, CCP dont really care about me.. NSA, might.

Besides, if one is really paranoid, just watch traffic. Block it. 

Mon Jan 17 2022 06:17:24 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Is this a different RISC-V computer than the one previously mentioned?

[ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-alternative-mango-pi-risc-v-sbc ]

The "
"mango pi" is RISC-V based and appears to be positioned in the same space as the Raspberry Pi Zero.

It has an "Allwinner D1" SoC so I have to assume that the system is fully integrated with Red China, so it's not something you'd put in a privacy-focused homebrew computer. Apparently, however, RISC-V support in Linux is moving into the mainline kernel, so that's good news.

 



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 15:25:01 EST from zooer

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Some of you like mechanical keyboards:  New Logitech mechanical keyboards are conservative in looks and price

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/logitech-debuts-simple-sub-100-mechanical-keyboards/



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 18:15:23 EST from Nurb432

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Doesn't everyone love the feel of a real cherry switch under their fingers?



[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 18:53:54 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hmm, that logitech keyboard zooer posted looks pretty good for the price, though. It looks like they're going for the "mechanical keyboard but not high end gamer gear" space. The switches aren't Cherry but I'd definitely consider it, especially if I had to sneak it into a purchase. It's even my favorite form factor (tenkeyless).

Obviously, real Cherry switches are still the gold standard, but you pay for that. The one I am on now has Reds, which are the clicky ones.

[#] Wed Jan 26 2022 19:18:51 EST from Nurb432

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Mine are blue, technically a gaming keyboard but no stupid back light..  Took one to work and everyone bitched about it. 

I have 2 M100 IBM keyboards in the garage that i think about converting to usb every so often..   never do start that project.



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