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[#] Tue Jul 16 2024 14:06:36 EDT from Nurb432

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I might have the numbers wrong, but the 2 i'm comparing and complaining about, i really dont see any size reduction. just a different ( incompatible ) shape. and lower wattage. 

Sure, if you saved a bunch of space, or it was magically waterproof or something, id say its 'ok' but i just dont see it here.  I think when i buy transformer dongles from here out out ill be sure check first to avoid it.

 

And yes i know its low on the list of things to be pissed about, but getting really tired of stuff like this "just because we can make you buy new stuff" . 



[#] Fri Jul 19 2024 11:50:18 EDT from Nurb432

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NVIDIA's days are numbered.  Generic TPUs are coming for them, and now this -> https://siliconangle.com/2024/07/18/openai-reportedly-holding-talks-broadcom-others-develop-new-ai-server-chip/

 

( broadcom and openAI are in talks.. )



[#] Sat Jul 20 2024 07:43:52 EDT from Nurb432

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Sort of funny. Intel 13 and 14 gen core series CPUs crash on load.  So does gen 12.  ( i can attest to that personally...  i got mine stable finally, after disabling a lot of things, including all the 'power saving cores' so i lost 1/2 of what its supposed to be able to do )

Intel sux they need to get out of the way.

 

https://www.techspot.com/news/103876-intel-laptop-cpus-crashing-company-remains-silent.html



[#] Thu Jul 25 2024 13:49:09 EDT from LoanShark

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Are you running an i9 or something less? Apparently these problems affect the whole lineup, but they are worst with Thermal Velocity Boost (i9-only feature)

[#] Thu Jul 25 2024 13:50:46 EDT from LoanShark

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I've been thinking about upgrading to Arrow Lake when it's available, but with these issues unresolved I'm not so sure. Zen 2 it is, for now.

[#] Thu Jul 25 2024 14:09:32 EDT from Nurb432

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An i7. 12gen. Shoved in a NUC like box and at the time was a bit faster than most without spending silly money. ( and why i chose it )  Its a couple of generations old now as I put it away for almost a year as i was too frustrated and came close to tossing it. I had read about other people with similar issues with that gen, mainly related to core graphic drivers and such. None of the stuff they suggested worked ( for many people it seems, not just me ) so away it went.   When i brought it back out during some house cleaning, "lets try this again, but at BIOS level, before i finally toss it" mostly i disabled the 'efficiency cores' which of course would drop power use, so im 99% its related to the current issue even tho at the time i didn't know about that.  The other things i messed with, i doubt they really made a  difference. ( mostly pre-fetch and extension stuff, i was just trying random things, and most i turned back on anyway )

Disabling the cores sort defeated the use-case i had bought for it, now its 'yet another mid-range i7' but at least its not collecting dust and i can use it.

Thu Jul 25 2024 13:49:09 EDT from LoanShark

Are you running an i9 or something less? Apparently these problems affect the whole lineup, but they are worst with Thermal Velocity Boost (i9-only feature)

 



[#] Thu Jul 25 2024 14:36:27 EDT from LoanShark

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Hmmmm. I have had faulty hardware before. In the 90s, my brother bought an AMD K5 (or something like that) which had stability issues in Linux at nominal voltage and frequency settings. (As soon as you ran the `df` command, it would crash. Every time.) Thesse problems went away when you jumpered it down to a lower frequency. But I think they eventually came back, even at the lower freq - the hardware was degrading before our eyes.

Maybe some more recent examples, too, but that's the one that stands out in my mind.

Supposedly, the 12th gen doesn't suffer from the SAME issues as 13th/14th. And apparently, they've finally root-caused the latter: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-breaks-silence-on-13th-and-14th-gen-Raptor-Lake-desktop-CPU-instability-issues.866224.0.html

[#] Thu Jul 25 2024 14:55:42 EDT from Nurb432

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Ya i tried stuff like reducing clock speeds and such early on.  No effect.     Also thought network for a while too, but no, that wasn't it.

I forget the exact errors i got on console when it didn't freeze solid but all running processes did, and it always seems to be related to one or 2 of the cores, so i thought 'why not give that a try and turn those off"  It was the 'power saving' ones, ( whatever its called ) so i was just assuming its power related after reading the stuff about 13 and 14 gen.    I also don't think it was bad hardware, as i was not the only person, and they had drastically different hardware, but same CPU... 

 



[#] Fri Jul 26 2024 16:15:59 EDT from Nurb432

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Did not read the entire article as im busy, but apparently the 'fix' intel is putting out only apples if you have not had issues. If you have, your CPU is physically damaged. ( it was on the verge if anyone wants to look )

"If you have experienced crashing your CPU is irrecoverably damaged and should be replaced"

And they are still blaming voltages, and their microcode doing it. 

 

Also who is paying for these replacements? And what about laptops and NUCs, where you cant normally replace it?



[#] Fri Jul 26 2024 16:35:19 EDT from LoanShark

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Why do you suppose they are denying that laptops are affected? ;-)

[#] Fri Jul 26 2024 16:40:40 EDT from Nurb432

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lol

Fri Jul 26 2024 16:35:19 EDT from LoanShark

Why do you suppose they are denying that laptops are affected? ;-)

 



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