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[#] Wed Apr 29 2015 13:27:36 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: mail to yahoo not sent

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Yahoo rejects if you don't have an spf record in your dns, google will not.


On 04/29/2015 01:49 PM, Panagiotis Palias wrote:
Hello,

I have issues sending mails to yahoo, while sending to gmail works fine
(same mail, sending to both addresses)

I am attaching the logs (smtpeventclient enabled) I could find with changed
usernames, in case someone might have an idea.

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kLSH9LNJ

Regards,

Panos

[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 03:43:28 EDT from kenhaynie @ Uncensored

Subject: how hard would it be to use BDB sqlite as the database for citadel?

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Noobie looking for a mail server to integrate with moodle.

I understand citadel uses Berkeley DB.

there is a version of Berkely DB that exposes an sqlite-dropin-compatible API. 

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/products/berkeleydb/overview/sql-160887.html

Has anyone ever used this version of Berkely DB with citadel? Or could someone guess at the level of challenges this would present?

I like everything i'm reading - keep up the good work.

many thanks,

ken

 

 



[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 04:50:57 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: how hard would it be to use BDB sqlite as the database for citadel?

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Thu Apr 30 2015 03:43:28 EDT from kenhaynie @ Uncensored Subject: how hard would it be to use BDB sqlite as the database for citadel?

Noobie looking for a mail server to integrate with moodle.

I understand citadel uses Berkeley DB.

there is a version of Berkely DB that exposes an sqlite-dropin-compatible API. 

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/products/berkeleydb/overview/sql-160887.html

Has anyone ever used this version of Berkely DB with citadel? Or could someone guess at the level of challenges this would present?

I like everything i'm reading - keep up the good work.

many thanks,

ken

you may also want to read

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:rdbms_store_layer

You probably could query rooms etc. by sql using the sqlite-bdb frontend you mentioned; however citadel uses the bdb rather like a key/value store.

See

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=tree;f=citadel/techdoc;h=2145de0482c78598f4c7456d3901bf4c1dca93bb;hb=refs/heads/master

(or te techdoc directory in the source tarballs) for more details.



[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 06:29:57 EDT from smittyhead @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server keeps stopping after crash from hours of excess cpu usage

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please try running database_creanup.sh - see http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:system_administration_manual for the details in advance.



I tried to run the cleanup script but it told me that it could not find the Berkley DB utilities

I ended up deleting the culprits account (with his blessing of course) and creating a new one and slapping him on the wrist and everything seems to be fine.  Should I try to repair the database still?



[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 09:29:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server keeps stopping after crash from hours of excess cpu usage

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hm, the utilities should be available with your distribution.

Be carefull, they need to be the same bdb version as your lib.

if you deleted that user, try whats happening with

sendcommand TDAP

eventually you need to go back to a previous backup after that - if it also doesn't like the way the db behaves.



[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 16:51:03 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: citadel.org hangs on fonts

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citadel.org hangs trying to download fonts from http://fonts.googleapis.com

I could do without those fonts!

On that note, is there any access to the raw wiki text files?

I looked at code.citadel.org but didn't see anything there.

[#] Fri May 01 2015 20:31:28 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Return-Path ???

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I have been wondering about this for quite some time. However, as I
mentioned before I am coding something for citadel again and it effects
my code now. So, I am a bid confused about how mailing lists work in
citadel.

Any post submitted in to a mailing list enabled room, I would think
should have some kind of mechanism that insures that replies are sent to
the room rather then the original posters personal email.

At first I thought that Return-Path does this job. But it appears not to
be. If someone posts a message not with Webcit then his/her email
address ends up in the Return-Path.
And even if the message is send via webcit and the Return-Path is set to
the list name, a reply from an email client is set to be the original
posters email address not the list room. And Return-Path wouldn't be
useful to the email client anyway since it has only the room name at
best not the rooms email address.

Shouldn't every post have a header like Reply-To at leased set so that
if one receives a message with an email client, reply will direct the
message to the list rather then the personal email of the person we are
replying to.

Some research on this shows, that Reply-To might not be the right
solution either. However the posters points don't make sense in Citadels
case because Reply To All/Group doesn't work in Citadel either.
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

So what is Citadels solution to this? Having to type in the mailing
lists email address on every reply doesn't seam to be a very good solution.

Am I totally of track here? Is there something I don't get?

[#] Sat May 02 2015 09:30:38 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Disable Login

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I am wondering if there is a way to disable login in http mode, or
forward logins to https.

At the moment I have nginx forward all requests to https but that does
not make sense for plain reading of public pages, rss feeds etc.
Specifically because I use a self signed certificate, but also in general.

So turning of login at http level or forwarding login requests to https
would be great for security.

[#] Sun May 03 2015 08:01:17 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Disable Login

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Sat May 02 2015 09:30:38 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Disable Login
I am wondering if there is a way to disable login in http mode, or
forward logins to https.

At the moment I have nginx forward all requests to https but that does
not make sense for plain reading of public pages, rss feeds etc.
Specifically because I use a self signed certificate, but also in general.

So turning of login at http level or forwarding login requests to https
would be great for security.

you probably could alter the login mask target action to contain https.

the code is here: static/t/get_logged_in.html

On overloading templates see:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:customize_webcit#customizing.webcit



[#] Sun May 03 2015 08:02:59 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel.org hangs on fonts

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Thu Apr 30 2015 16:51:03 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: citadel.org hangs on fonts
citadel.org hangs trying to download fonts from http://fonts.googleapis.com

I could do without those fonts!

On that note, is there any access to the raw wiki text files?

I looked at code.citadel.org but didn't see anything there.

its a dokuwiki, so

http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:customize_webcit?do=export_html

will do.

Turning of javascript wil probably also do; I guess the google adds depend on these fonts.

NoScript is your friend ;-)



[#] Sun May 03 2015 08:13:58 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Return-Path ???

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Fri May 01 2015 20:31:28 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Return-Path ???
I have been wondering about this for quite some time. However, as I
mentioned before I am coding something for citadel again and it effects
my code now. So, I am a bid confused about how mailing lists work in
citadel.

Any post submitted in to a mailing list enabled room, I would think
should have some kind of mechanism that insures that replies are sent to
the room rather then the original posters personal email.

At first I thought that Return-Path does this job. But it appears not to
be. If someone posts a message not with Webcit then his/her email
address ends up in the Return-Path.
And even if the message is send via webcit and the Return-Path is set to
the list name, a reply from an email client is set to be the original
posters email address not the list room. And Return-Path wouldn't be
useful to the email client anyway since it has only the room name at
best not the rooms email address.

Shouldn't every post have a header like Reply-To at leased set so that
if one receives a message with an email client, reply will direct the
message to the list rather then the personal email of the person we are
replying to.

Some research on this shows, that Reply-To might not be the right
solution either. However the posters points don't make sense in Citadels
case because Reply To All/Group doesn't work in Citadel either.
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

So what is Citadels solution to this? Having to type in the mailing
lists email address on every reply doesn't seam to be a very good solution.

Am I totally of track here? Is there something I don't get?

I've done a bit of research a while back what would be the best things to do... Reply To doesn't always seem to be the prefered solution.

If you want to look deeper into it, The Responsible code to generate the message for mailinglist recipients lives in:

citadel/modules/network/serv_netmail.c network_process_list()

citadel/techdoc/hack.txt describes the internal data structures - especially those of the messages.

citadel/msgbase.c OutputRFC822MsgHeaders() is responsible for generating whats sent via smtp, or imap.

webcit/messages.c display_enter() with replying_mode is the place where the recipinets are fetched and preparend to be put into the recipient lines.



[#] Sun May 03 2015 16:20:00 EDT from TaMeR @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: Disable Login

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Thanks dothebart for pointing me in to the right direction.

Here is what I did, in case anyone else is interested.
I modified only one file, file modal.js

I added the function ishttps()
And I modified toggleModal(b)

This seams to work.

Also fixed a bug in toggleModal(b), a call to a null object was giving errors.
A simple null check did the fix.


function ishttps() {
var ok = true;
if (window.location.protocol != "https:") {
console.log('Not https');
ok = false;
window.location.href = "https:" + window.location.href.substring(window.location.protocol.length);
}
return ok;
}


function toggleModal (b) {

if (modalShowing && b) return;
if (!modalShowing && !b) return;

if(ishttps()){
console.log('ishttps');
}

html.className=modalShowing?'':'modal';

modalShowing = !modalShowing;

if (modalShowing) {
if( dialog != null ){
dialog.focus();
}
} else if (focusedElement) {
try {
focusedElement.focus();
} catch(ex) {}
}
}

[#] Sun May 03 2015 20:53:56 EDT from "Panagiotis Palias" <panagos81@gmail.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: mail to yahoo not sent

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I created the SPF record and it still won't work. I would swear that
before moving the citadel server from an old server to this one,
everything worked fine, even without SPF record. Could it be something
else? Should I let some time pass for the change in dns to be propagated
maybe?
Thank you!

On 29/04/2015 07:27 μμ, TaMeR wrote:

Yahoo rejects if you don't have an spf record in your dns, google will not.


On 04/29/2015 01:49 PM, Panagiotis Palias wrote:
Hello,

I have issues sending mails to yahoo, while sending to gmail works fine
(same mail, sending to both addresses)

I am attaching the logs (smtpeventclient enabled) I could find with changed
usernames, in case someone might have an idea.

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kLSH9LNJ

Regards,

Panos

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