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[#] Tue Apr 28 2015 09:01:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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But there's also this shop in California that gets its Cheez Whiz shipped in daily from Pennsylvania...

[#] Tue Apr 28 2015 11:23:47 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Cheez Whiz is a brand name.
Sold in a can (for restaurant use) by Kraft.
Other similar products do the same thing.
And taste better.

Cheez Whiz started life as spreadable Cheddar cheese and after a few years became, basically, a chemical factory in a jar or can, and the taste suffered immensely.

Back in my "Taste of Philly" day, we used canned cheddar. Tastes better - more of an authentic cheese taste and *much* less salty. Even more important, just as messy.

If you look at the sidewalk near Pat's Steaks in south Philly, you will find permanent stains from cheez whiz drippings. There's a certain way you have to posture yourself while eating a steak sandwich with "whiz" on it in order to keep it from dripping all over you. You lean forward so the cheez whiz lands on the ground instead of your shirt.

Authentic (if there's such a thing) steak sandwiches uses provolone. The "sandwich" or "mild" sliced stuff, not the Real Thing, which is hard and quite "strong" (spicey in an Italian way) and STINKS! There's a saying about Sharp Provolone - if it doesn't stink like puke it isn't gonna taste good! And that's very very true.

And the pre-packaged sharp provolone you find in supermarkets, by companies such as Bel Gioioso, is barely acceptable. What you really need to do is find an Italian deli that has their provolone literally hanging by ropes from the ceiling (they come in large "balls" sealed in wax). THAT is the Real Thing and the taste is from heaven. The smell, properly, is from hell. That's how you know you bought the Right Provolone!

[#] Tue Apr 28 2015 12:40:22 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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way you have to posture yourself while eating a steak sandwich with
"whiz" on it in order to keep it from dripping all over you. You lean


I have NEVER been on a steak sandwich. Although I have eaten quite a few.



Da Wizzzz

[#] Tue Apr 28 2015 21:19:39 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Isn't the cheese hanging from the ceiling by ropes in an Italian shop called "Mussolini"?

[#] Wed Apr 29 2015 03:52:20 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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BOXES!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



[#] Wed Apr 29 2015 15:00:29 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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2015-04-28 21:19 from zooer @uncnsrd
Isn't the cheese hanging from the ceiling by ropes in an Italian shop called
"Mussolini"?


No.

[#] Wed Apr 29 2015 18:07:48 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Come on, just a little facist humor.

[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 08:21:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's very possible that BunnyToes Mussolini loved to eat provolone cheese.



[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 09:56:27 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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A rather obvious conclusion.
*All* Italians love to eat (sharp) provolone cheese!

[#] Thu Apr 30 2015 11:49:34 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ah, if it's sharp provolone cheese, then it must be provocative provolone cheese.

[#] Fri May 01 2015 10:00:41 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Agent Provocateur Provolone Cheese?



[#] Sun May 03 2015 11:25:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yes... sharp *and* stylish.

[#] Sun May 10 2015 14:12:33 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I saw a guy at the airport enjoying an airport steak sandwich in Charlotte. I laughed at his steak sandwich of
inferior meat, cheese and beef while secretly craving the sandwich for myself.

[#] Mon May 11 2015 13:15:00 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Much as I like an occasional steak sandwich, they are not even close to being my favorite.

For that we have to go to that Flagship of Italian Sandwiches...

The Italian Hoagie!!!

1) mortadella
2) Genoa salami
3) Hot Capicolla ("Gabagool")
4) Prosciutto ("Brazoot")
5) Sliced yellow onion
6) Italian style hot peppers (NOT "pepperoncini"... ugh!)

Put all of this into a hoagie roll (hard crust, soft interior), lightly sprinkle a SMALL amount of black pepper, a good amount (but not too much) oregano, oil & vinegar to suit your preference (it is a MORTAL SIN to put Mayonaisse on this Sandwich of All Sandwiches!), and start eating!!

Oooops... forgot something.
3 or 4 slices of "sandwich" (mild) provolone.
Lettuce.
Tomato.

There you go! Heaven for Lunch (or dinner, or a snack - which is why most Italians are a bit .... pudgy).

[#] Thu May 14 2015 09:43:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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(Adjust as needed for the fact that the word "hoagie" is unknown outside eastern Pennsylvania and southern New Jersey.)

(Go ahead, incite the flame war over what a large sandwich is properly called...)

[#] Thu May 14 2015 20:04:34 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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"Hoagie" is quite well known in Boulder CO (at least it was back in 1991, last time I was there), and also in northern California.

I've bought hoagies in Manhattan (NYC) and Brooklyn (another planet), Washington DC (another galaxy, far far away). A friend tells me they have "hoagies" in Lafayette Louisiana.

So it appears the moniker is much more than just a Philly/Jersey thing.

[#] Thu May 14 2015 23:52:05 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Local place sells a "hot hoagie":

"Hoagies are served on a Freshly Baked French Bun, grilled with garlic butter. Add to that mayo, Italian dressing, lettuce, tomatoes, onions and your choice of meat and melted cheese. Served with chips."

They will let you double down on the meat as well.  Healthy it is not.  Thank god they wrap it in wax paper, as the black puddle it leaves if you don't eat it fast enough is disturbing, and you would not want it to stain anything it was set on.

Plus the "ya get chips with that".  I liked them (probably a bit too much), but I can't eat that stuff anymore.



[#] Fri May 15 2015 08:00:00 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Vince,

That cannot be correct. It would be a po'boy in Louisiana.

[#] Fri May 15 2015 10:54:29 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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They were always "subs" here. "Subsanwich"(sic) /"sub sandwich" was acceptable. Saying the long drawn out
"Submarine Sandwich" would get you weird looks but acceptable also. We had a sub shop that only served subs so
"Let's go to Milt's" was understood.

This town just had a Jimmy John's open up. It is sad how everything is turning into a major chain. The thing
about Jimmy John's is they emphasize the speed of their service... but not quality. I think that "free smells"
sign is stupid. I know people that work near the Jimmy John's location, have tried it, and they say it is
acceptable. Not great but acceptable, another place to choose in that area. There are a few unique items they
like, one person likes Jimmy John's lettuce wrap "sandwiches", no bread, the food is wrapped in a piece of
iceberg lettuce. Not a bad idea I suppose for those on low carb diets. It is like stuffed cabbage.

[#] Fri May 15 2015 11:17:19 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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"Hoagies are served on a Freshly Baked French Bun, grilled with
garlic butter. Add to that mayo, Italian dressing, lettuce, tomatoes,

onions and your choice of meat and melted cheese. Served with chips."



You never never never EVER use "melted" cheese on a hoagie.
And you never use "french" rolls either. If you cannot find a genuine Italian hard-crust roll, you can make the sandwich with a French roll, since they are the right size and usually have at least a semblance of a crispy (but not hard) crust. But it is only an approximation - "close enough for government work" - but not authentic Italian.

"Italian dressing"?? In my family the ONLY dressing (for salads and hoagies alike) is oil & vinegar. Since that is, in many restaurants, considered a dressing (and it is certainly Italian [and Greek]) I suppose that "Italian dressing" is "ok" - but not the nonsense sold in bottles. Make that yourself by dripping a bit of olive oil over the innards of the sandwich and then red wine vinegar to taste. Forget the "crap in a bottle." It is not authentic; more important, it does not taste good - ruins the hoagie.

And I'm Italian - both sides of the family tree - all the way to "the boat."

--Don Vincenzo

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