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[#] Mon Jul 18 2016 21:07:46 EDT from rat @ Uncensored

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I'd rather argue Trump is the most evil option right now.

 

Mon Jul 18 2016 21:04:18 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

So this is a vote for evil, ... The lesser of two evils is still evil.  If you vote for evil, expect to get evil.



[#] Mon Jul 18 2016 22:39:47 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I didn't pay for an argument.



[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 08:47:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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evils?  If we could name someone less evil, in your view, you would
 make the excuse that only two people have a chance in the one party

Nope. Remember, I voted Libertarian for a long time, because their platform had the closest match to my own political views. 2012 was the first time I didn't vote LP in a presidential election, because I didn't (and still don't) like Gary Johnson. His idea of getting rid of most of what's left of our military is unacceptable in a world where threats are increasing. The fact that he now says terrorism is no big deal cements that even further. Gary Johnson's policies will eventually lead to the US being taken over and turned into part of a caliphate.

I never vote AGAINST. I always vote FOR.

Once again, SHOW ME your better alternative; otherwise all of this is just taunting rather than a meaningful discussion.

[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 10:20:58 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Ok, I'm voting for Hillary... just because she's evil and will therefore piss off zooer. :-)

[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 10:59:22 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Tue Jul 19 2016 10:20:58 AM EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

Ok, I'm voting for Hillary... just because she's evil and will therefore piss off zooer. :-)

At least YOU have a reason, but it wont piss me off. 



[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 15:05:24 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 15:15:46 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Tue Jul 19 2016 10:20:58 AM EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

Ok, I'm voting for Hillary... just because she's evil and will therefore piss off zooer. :-)

Hey.... wait.  I thought you were voting for me.  I had you picked out as part of my administration.



[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 15:35:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Gary Johnson is a moron.

Basic income for all, paid for by a carbon tax. See, that's the kind of thinking that led me to the decision that the Libertarian Party isn't really for libertarianism; they're really just a bunch of liberal democrats who want legalized drugs.

(I don't have a problem with drug legalization, but pragmatically that has to be supported by a whole lot of other things to prevent taxpayers from footing the bills for junkies.)

And that's why I voted FOR Mitt Bush Cruz Romney. Even with his *many* faults, he was still superior to Gary Sharia Johnson.

[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 19:57:53 EDT from rat @ Uncensored

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http://fortune.com/2016/07/19/here-is-who-donald-trump-wants-for-treasury-secretary/

Donald Trump has told prospective donors that, if elected president, he plans to nominate former Goldman Sachs banker Steve Mnuchin for U.S. Treasury Secretary.



[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 23:01:47 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I think I posted a similar article above, but let me summarize Mr. Foobar's response. 

Something about  HITLERY, Something about team CU?NTon, bla bla bla, name a better choice, I support Trumps's platform.... whatever it is.  bla bla bla.


I do I have a question as I am not familiar with Republican customs or rules. Does the nominee make the sharp turn to the left after he gets the nomination or does he wait until the convention is over?



[#] Tue Jul 19 2016 23:51:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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They normally wait until after the general election. In the meantime, Mr. Trump is still superior to Hitlery Cunton, I support his platform, and you have yet to name a better choice.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 07:29:58 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I can not name a better candidate because I don't think good men wish to rule others.  I don't look up to politicians the way you do.



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 08:53:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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2016-07-18 09:48 from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
Fair enough, but do you see any alternatives perceived as superior?

Reform voting laws.

Get rid of our current system. It's fundamentally broken.

Then, maybe.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 08:55:30 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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(Because, honestly, both of these candidates are equally terrible).

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 09:00:31 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Oh, but here's the way I view it...

Someone promotes either one of these bozos. By promoting either of them, regardless of which one, you implicitely suggest they're worth voting for.

They aren't.

They are both terrible, terrible people.

Both of them (not one or the other) will try to milk the common man out of hard-earned wages to ingratiate their own desires. Neither of them care about the common man.

Both of them should get fucked.

So I'm not falling for the trap of having to say which one is better. They are both drastically detrimental to this country, and neither should be promoted by anyone, regardless of whether or not there are alternatives.

Our voting system requires reformation, because it's completely broken if it allows us to get to a place where these two asshats should be our only choices.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 11:18:19 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Tell us how you really feel... :-)

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 11:45:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wed Jul 20 2016 07:29:58 AM EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

I can not name a better candidate because I don't think good men wish to rule others.  I don't look up to politicians the way you do.

Ok, I get it.  Nobody cares, nobody can fix the economy, nobody keeps campaign promises, so vote for nobody.

Call me overly optimistic but I don't think we're quite there yet.  Ask me again on November 9 (if Cuntbag wins) or in 2020 (if Trump wins) and we'll re-evaluate that assessment, ok?



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 14:14:16 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Wed Jul 20 2016 11:45:42 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

 Ok, I get it.  Nobody cares, nobody can fix the economy, nobody keeps campaign promises, so vote for nobody.

 

Nobody-r.jpg

You finally understand, here is your bumper sticker!

Please stop telling me that my non-participation in the system is a vote for Hillary. That is *pure* bullshit.  Like you I am going to vote for exactly who fits my political beliefs. Although I have been registered to both parties at one time, I have always gone back to independent/No Party Affiliation.  I did not vote in 1998, 2000, 2002, not voting in Nov will be easy. 

Trump is crap, and deep inside you know that.  If elected he isn't going to build a wall, he isn't going to stop immigration. He is going to do what is best for him, while everything else continues on as it has.

 

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 14:32:49 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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The Wall(TM) is now an official plank of the party platform! (Which is ridiculous.)

It doesn't go far enough, of course. To prevent a terrorist from landing a stolen plane in the Canadian wilderness and slipping across the border, you need to build a wall on the entire 49th parallel, including all those mountains...

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 15:03:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Trump is crap, and deep inside you know that.  If elected he isn't
going to build a wall, he isn't going to stop immigration. He is

I respectfully disagree. Of course, I've been wrong before. We will see.

As far as pessimistic outcomes, I can see two:
1. Cuntbag wins the election (via cheating, of course). Constitution shredded.
2. Trump wins the election (by a landslide, but due to democrat cheating it comes out as a squeaker) ... but is blocked by liberals in both parties of Congress from accomplishing his agenda.

And yes, from a perspective that (any candidate one supports) is the only possible catalyst for positive change, not voting *is* effectively equivalent to (candidate seen as most harmful).

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