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[#] Sun Dec 19 2010 19:32:00 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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whew. this one is outright awsome:

The Pentagon (what conservative doesn’t care about national defense?) has released a report that the poor fitness of our nation’s youth is negatively affecting our ability to recruit suitable candidates into the military. One solution? Make it easy for kids to ride bikes and walk to school.

well, you have to have enough people you are able to motivate to fight in the army; new york bicycle couriers might have a good health & fitness, but most of them won't choose the army ;-)

so, make cycling a common sense, to get the less educated ones fit enough to serve your country..



[#] Tue Dec 21 2010 05:24:18 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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So Dez 19 2010 19:29:20 EST von IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
How does one even begin to start with the assumption that conservatives are anti-cycling? That's about as completely lacking in a plausible starting point as that "study" they've been passing around that claims FOX News makes you stupid.

I guess thats not "if you meet a conservative guy on a bike, what do you say"  Its rather if you meet a conservative at some tea party, and you want to start some talk about bikes, what could you say, and what shouldn't.

The assumption is that you're talking to a guy that didn't even sit on a bike in the last 20 years.

As one of the commenters mentions, these might also be the right arguments to mention when talking to a democrat.

In general its a list of arguments for talking to somebody who doesn't even like _you_ to bike.



[#] Thu Dec 23 2010 15:28:40 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I get that, but it doesn't make sense that someone's trying to make a political thing out of it.

[#] Sat Dec 25 2010 16:17:58 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the political thing about it is:

- where are you allowed to cycle (road? in .de for example you "have to" use cycle lanes if theres a sign, even if they don't suit your needs)?

- what about bike facilities like parking lots?

- way hints (you might not want to take the highway... or step hills...)?

- Like there are special ways for cars, should there be special ones for bikes?

- If bridges are build, should you be able to cycle them? (i.e. a train bridge or a highway bridge..., while stairs might be ok for pedestrians, its not as cool for cyclists)

- what kind of requirements are there for lightning etc.

- even, in some forrests its strictly regulated where you are allowed to cycle or not.

so you see, theres lots of politics involved in cycling.



[#] Sun Dec 26 2010 10:40:27 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Governor of Hawaii says, in essence, "Give it up already."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/us/25hawaii.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss



[#] Sun Dec 26 2010 14:34:36 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Sounds like an admission of guilt to me. If you can't prove something is true, try to silence your opponents. Kind of like the global warming crowd.


This is one of those cases where the skeptic position persists specifically *because* the documentation provided so far has been somewhat lacking in obvious authenticity. Does it even matter at this point? He's already halfway through his term; any legal proceedings which begin at this point would take more than two years anyway.

Now if you want to get into REAL conspiracy theories, we could start talking about how the real secret is that BHO is actually the son of some other shady figure. There are some very entertaining ones out there.


We've reached the point where everyone's going to believe what they want to, and no one is going to be convinced or swayed to switch positions this late in the game.

[#] Sun Dec 26 2010 16:33:58 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Heh... two newspaper reports from about the same day on 1961 corroborating the documents that Hawaii can release to the public is somehow not quite enough.

So it makes more sense to violate another state's privacy laws to quell the rumors.

It might make more sense to attack his fiscal policies, which are worse than voodoo.



[#] Mon Dec 27 2010 00:43:34 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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We expect transparency from the POTUS. Failing to provide it is something that the other side is going to scream and yell about.

but the economic policies are worse than voodoo. Voodoo is somewhat random. Obama's economic policies are pretty much the opposite of what economists recommend.



[#] Wed Dec 29 2010 10:14:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I expect transparency from *everyone*.

[#] Wed Dec 29 2010 16:55:02 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I don't expect transparency from the military.  In fact, I expect duplicity, and outright lies.  And, honestly, for the most part, I do not have a problem with that, except where it impacts taxpayers.

The military cannot possibly function well if it cannot be duplicitous.



[#] Thu Dec 30 2010 00:40:39 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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IG: agreed. I expect people to be honest and forthcoming, especially if they're political leaders, except in matters of security. There, they have to censor and sometimes even lie to make sure that the country stays secure.



[#] Thu Dec 30 2010 00:41:05 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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(ie. I totally agree with fleeb)



[#] Fri Dec 31 2010 00:14:14 EST from Sig @ Uncensored

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Dec 29 2010 4:55pm from fleeb @uncnsrd
I don't expect transparency from the military.  In fact, I expect
duplicity, and outright lies.  And, honestly, for the most part, I
do not have a problem with that, except where it impacts taxpayers.

The military cannot possibly function well if it cannot be
duplicitous.

And often not even then...

[#] Fri Dec 31 2010 07:51:47 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Heh.



[#] Fri Dec 31 2010 09:44:54 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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So, no pardon for Billy the Kid:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/01/us/01billy.html

Sometimes, I wonder if governors do things like this to drum up business for their state.



[#] Mon Jan 03 2011 22:15:12 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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(Billy the Kid was unavailable for comment, but if he had been, he'd probably have said something like "screw you, y'already done hanged me, no sense in pardonin' me now")

[#] Tue Jan 04 2011 08:06:38 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Either that, or:

BRAAAIIIIIINNNNSS...



[#] Tue Jan 04 2011 09:34:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Zombie the Kid!  Oooh, unleash that on Congress!



[#] Tue Jan 04 2011 18:49:25 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Heh... watch Robert's Rules of Order go completely out the window.



[#] Thu Jan 06 2011 23:06:47 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I guess they normally behave like zombies anyway.

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