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[#] Wed Jun 11 2014 17:20:21 EDT from dothebart

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yep - if you count it up against chinese coal miners dieing everyday and and people dieing from smog and live in a country with huge deserts it may sound like a clever solution.

[#] Thu Jun 12 2014 08:39:01 EDT from fleeb

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They have a lot of willing test subjects.

[#] Thu Jun 12 2014 11:27:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Thousands of people are killed every day by solar and wind energy.

[#] Thu Jun 12 2014 15:52:15 EDT from dothebart

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Thu Jun 12 2014 11:27:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Thousands of people are killed every day by solar and wind energy.

well, bum atomic power won't stop it from happening?

[#] Thu Jun 12 2014 23:50:26 EDT from zooer

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if you count it up against Chinese coal miners dieing everyday

I'm just a Chinese coal miners daughter....

[#] Fri Jun 13 2014 14:45:01 EDT from fleeb

[Reply] [ReplyQuoted] [Headers] [Print] nside-the-Earth-say-scientists

I'm amused that there's something called silicate perovskite. Makes me think of Aahz.

[#] Fri Jun 13 2014 16:58:17 EDT from fleeb

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Oh, right, as for the article...

Some scientists have found a tremendous amount of water locked within the earth's mantle, mainly in the form of oxygen/hydrogen atoms bound to another set of elements that become freed (if I'm reading this right) through certain geological processes.

As such, they feel there are oceans worth of water trapped under the crust.

What isn't suggested by the artcle, but might be interesting none-the-less, is what this might mean for other planets, like Mars. I wonder if we might find water trapped in Mars' mantle... and if it could be used to bootstrap the return of a martian atmosphere capable of sustaining life as we know it.

Man, the things you'd have to do to Mars to make that work, though. Have to find a way to get the core heated and spinning, to generate enough magnetism to keep the atmosphere from being blown away by the sun's forces.

[#] Sat Jun 14 2014 09:59:02 EDT from zooer

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But if we did something that would mean *MAN* ruined Mars... just like he ruined life on earth.

[#] Sun Jun 15 2014 17:21:38 EDT from vince-q

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Actually, with the surface gravity of Mars being only 38% that of Earth, or roughly 3.7 m/sec^2 compared to Earth's 9.8 m/sec^2, I would suspect that there is a bit more to "keeping" an atmosphere on Mars than merely "creating" a planetary magnetic field and/or an ionosphere.

I am by no means an expert in that particular area of planetary physics but it just seems so much **easier** for atmospheric molecules to escape into space from a planet with gravity as weak as Mars.

To me, at least, there seems to be a lot more to terraforming Mars than just "pumping up" an atmosphere.

[#] Mon Jun 16 2014 09:04:27 EDT from fleeb

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Maybe... I hadn't considered the gravity of the situation.


[#] Sun Jun 22 2014 18:04:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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But if we did something that would mean *MAN* ruined Mars... just like he
ruined life on earth.

Oh noes! Teh global warming on MARS!!!!1

Anyway fleeb, you misread the article. It didn't say there was an ocean trapped under the earth's crust. It said that *Billy* Ocean was trapped under the earth's crust. He got into big trouble for localizing the lyrics to his songs and the world governments unanimously agreed that he presented enough danger to justify sequestering him deep inside the planet.

[#] Mon Jun 23 2014 10:56:45 EDT from fleeb

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I should read with more care.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2014 10:11:51 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Oh, so *that's* what's causing all the earthquakes!

[#] Sat Jul 19 2014 18:39:16 EDT from dothebart

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hm, once upon in time there were other reasons to be carefull with resources:

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 17:07:49 EDT from dothebart

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so, somebody thought its a clever idea to mount an hand-held extinguisher on the containment of an AKW in swizzerland - for shure you have to drill holes into the containment for that.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 17:57:33 EDT from the_mgt

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That's how you drill holes! The caretakers of our university gave up on the first whole, when we asked them to drill a hole into a steel beam in order to attach a beamer mount to it.

Oddly enough, I had a deja-lu, since somebody did something similar in another nucular plant in either belgium or somewhere in western germany near the french border.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 21:54:01 EST from fleeb

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America, laughing at the world's ecological concerns since the 60's:

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 22:46:41 EST from vince-q

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The World, laughing at America's bumbling and stumbling since 2009.

[#] Wed Dec 24 2014 09:59:57 EST from the_mgt

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Actually, we started laughing january 20., 2001. With "omg" and "seriously" mixed in for some good measures. And a real "unfuckingbelievable" sad laugh some 4 years later.

[#] Tue Dec 30 2014 09:27:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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If I hadn't already left the catholic church 20+ years ago, this would have pushed me over the edge.

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This idiot isn't worthy of being the leader of *any* church. He's supposed to be a disciple of Jesus, not a disciple of Al Gore. And he's got no business being a cheerleader for communist Cuba either.

I hereby fire Pope Frank and appoint myself as the new leader of the catholic church. My first order of business is to raze the Vatican and place a geological observation site there, where raw climate data will be published directly to the whole world without getting "corrected" by the IPCC.

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