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[#] Tue Oct 09 2012 11:11:47 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, two wintendos with the same guid would also make magic things happen.

[#] Thu Oct 11 2012 12:35:28 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Adobe apps do this too. They broadcast a hash of their license key over the network periodically and if another copy hears the hash of the same key you're using it will start bugging you.

[#] Mon Oct 15 2012 14:24:44 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I think we're getting burned by our use of a cloud server for
distributing a/v content. I suspect that we don't have a dedicated
pipe of networking, and someone else is consuming the pipe we're trying

to use, because we're not quite getting the throughput we'd been

You may also be facing traffic shaping...don't know which cloud provider you're using, but my previous employer restricts bandwidth based on the "size" of the VM you've built.

[#] Mon Oct 15 2012 15:30:59 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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In this case, the cloud server is Amazon.

I think it forces you to share on a Gigabit pipe unless you specifically pay for something else.

[#] Mon Oct 15 2012 20:52:47 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Not surprised. My Cit is currently on Amazon until I get my new server built.

[#] Wed Oct 17 2012 13:13:09 EDT from Ahff Rowe @ Uncensored

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NETBIOS: WINDOWS2: Glad to meet you, too WINDOWS1!

hahaha.. You've just inspired me to write a plainspeak protocol analyzer.

Don't have time today tho. Maybe tomorrow.

[#] Sat Oct 27 2012 17:35:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Adobe apps do this too. They broadcast a hash of their license key over

the network periodically and if another copy hears the hash of the same

key you're using it will start bugging you.

Consider how much effort goes into license compliance, license enforcement, license management, license purchasing, and all the tech support that goes into figuring it all out.

We're probably talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in lost productivity every year, just to maintain the myth that software is property that can be bought and sold.

Adobe is a good example. I can't believe people still pay money for software to write PDF's. Every Linux system comes with that, out of the box. And every Windoze system could be given that ability with gratis software.

[#] Sun Oct 28 2012 16:28:45 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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It is a bit like a religion, especially since there is only immaculate conception.  Try re-selling maculate Adobe suites, at least commercially, that is very tricky. (At least in germany it is, MS and Adobe come done with armies of lawyers at you.)

[#] Mon Oct 29 2012 12:22:34 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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On a Windows system, you can install a simple driver that lets you print to a PDF. As such, all applications on a Windows system can generate PDF files without much fuss.

But, I guess some people want to make it a little bit easier by not having people install the printer driver.

[#] Mon Oct 29 2012 13:50:10 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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The PDF-generating printer drivers for Windows usually generate PDFs that are just bitmaps on all the pages. Though this is useful if all you're looking to do is redistribute a document in a portable format, it does make it impossible to excerpt said documents.
PDF Binder

[#] Mon Oct 29 2012 18:04:57 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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That's true.

[#] Mon Oct 29 2012 18:18:57 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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you could probably also use open/libreoffices pdf printing for non-bitmaped pdfes

[#] Mon Oct 29 2012 18:59:09 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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There are also pdfs which you can edit but then you not save the edited version. At least not with the free windows stuff. With the proper Acrobat, you can. But it is alright to use vesion 5 or 6 of it, you do not need to buy the whole new CS. Also, sometime you want to correct text in a pdf, dunno if gimp or any other tool does that yet.

But "pdftotext -layout" probably is the best ever tool to convert pdfs into a plaintext file while preserving the layout. You can then use perl or awk chew down the data. This might sound uncomfy, but some pdfs which look fine and ordered to humans are a pain if you want to extract the contained data mechanically.

[#] Mon Nov 12 2012 08:00:56 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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If PDF really is that flexible, one must wonder why it has not become the native document format for pretty much anything and everything.  What are its limitations?

[#] Mon Nov 12 2012 16:51:39 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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people started wrapping bitmaps by a pdf container.

[#] Mon Nov 12 2012 18:39:19 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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I think too many people think of it as Adobe PDF even though it's now an ISO standard.

[#] Tue Nov 13 2012 08:29:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's an ISO standard now? That's cool, but is it unencumbered by patents that would prevent a truly open *full* implementation (like, more than just a print driver) ??

[#] Tue Nov 13 2012 15:07:06 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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In 2008, Adobe published a Public Patent License to ISO 32000-1 granting royalty-free rights for all patents owned by Adobe that are necessary to make, use, sell and distribute PDF compliant implementations.

[#] Tue Nov 13 2012 17:51:14 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Ig: It is still a mess, if you look at the source of most pdfs, it is an unholy mess. They only began with the latest release a "block oriented" approach in favour of their previous "line oriented" approach. Ever wondered why copying text from a 2 column pdf was so hard?

I still love to send people pdf files of my finished texts, but only because it is more cross-plattform compared to office files. It also looks better than .rtf or .txt and is read only for most people.

[#] Sat Nov 24 2012 09:58:05 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It would be interesting to see how far one could go designing a document editor whose native format is PDF. "Legacy" documents would have big uneditable blobs in them, of course, but well-formed documents would have every element selectable and editable.

Even without that, having PDF available as a universal standard for pixel-perfect WYSIWYG is a big win. Too bad Micro$oft had to shit in the punch bowl by introducing XPS. Is there *any* valid reason for the existence of XPS or is it a 100.0% NIH play?

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