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[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 17:55:47 EDT from Ford II

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So I have my rooted G1 and it's all fine and wonderful but lately I've gotten the idea that maybe I want something faster. Having put cyanogenmod 6 on it, it's pretty damn slow. It can surf the web sorta, and it can play videos mostly....
but I was thinking of getting something faster. I don't need to use it for a phone, I was going to use for it what everybody else uses a tablet for.
Having not kept up with the zillions of phones they're making nowadays.
What's a recent but not too ebay-expensive android machine?

A friend of mine picked up some really old android 1.6 tablet for $85. IT's horrible.
Any suggestions?

[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 18:46:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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One thing I found about upgrading my G1 to CyanogenMod is that after a couple of upgrades and downgrades it got really unusable, but after I wiped it clean and put in CM 6.x (whatever the latest 6.x is, I'm not going to try 7) it's been running very nicely ever since.

What kind of tablet is that? I have a Craig CMP768a tablet which earlier this year was selling for around $85 at CVS. It was insanely easy to root (copy this file to the device over USB and then pull the plug and let it reboot) and it's now running Android 2.1 with some extra goodies. Despite not being an official Google build, they got the Market running. I even managed to run Angry Birds on it, although the frame rate isn't great. IGlet has it in his hands all the time for watching his elevator videos on YouTube.

Searching for "craig tablet" on eBay currently shows two used ones, one for $65 and another for $90. The only thing about this device is that it can get very cranky about operating on some encrypted wifi networks.

[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 18:46:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Sorry, CMP738a not 768.

[#] Fri Jun 24 2011 16:43:12 EDT from Ford II

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I'm not so enamored yet that I can completely convincemyself to throw real money at it yet, but at least I can think about it for a while while the prices come down.
thanks.

[#] Sat Jun 25 2011 22:19:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Over the next year or two you're going to see some insanely cheap devices.
That little Craig tablet is *almost* there. It's actually got an HDMI output and everything. The new Android SoC's that have started to come out lately are going to cause the market to get flooded with cheap but good devices, including both tablets and phones.

It has been argued that once the price of a good smartphone drops below the $100 mark, subscribers will begin purchasing the devices outright instead of allowing them to be subsidized by two year carrier contracts, and this in turn will put downward price pressure on the carriers because without a contract, subscribers can jump carriers at any time.

[#] Sun Jun 26 2011 11:51:29 EDT from triLcat

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I need someone with an Android to install an app for me and tell me if it runs.

Mine's running some weird version of Froyo (2.2), and the app doesn't work. I'm supposed to review it...

 



[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 00:28:57 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Hmm.  So much for using SMS to avoid spam-hell....

New Android Malware Installs SMS Relay
While malware is no stranger to the Android market place, Trend Micro is seeing a new and interesting item show up: an SMS relay. Once infected, the phone will be able to receive, intercept, and forward SMS messages to a pre-defined number which it pulls from a website. Users can check for this malware by looking for "FlashService" in their Running Services (Settings -> Applications -> Running Services). If found, users should uninstall the application immediately.
http://blog.trendmicro.com/android-malware-acts-as-an-sms-relay/



[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 12:36:09 EDT from Ford II

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the problem here isn't the malware, but that now antivirus makers are going to write slow sloggy anti-whatever software for phones which is going to slow down the already overburdened hardware.

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 13:07:56 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Ha, that, too.



[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 11:17:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I need someone with an Android to install an app for me and tell me
if it runs.

Do you still need help here?

[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 11:22:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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the problem here isn't the malware, but that now antivirus makers are

going to write slow sloggy anti-whatever software for phones which is

going to slow down the already overburdened hardware.

Hopefully the security model of Android will make things a bit easier here.

When an Android app is installed, the user has to approve of all the things it is allowed to do. This will of course not stop a rogue app on its own, because people are stupid, but it will slow them down a bit.

The more important thing is that once you discover a rogue app on your phone, it is far easier to remove something from Android than it is to remove from Windows, due to Android's security model. I can't see how an app could possibly break out of its designated location to the point of being able to stay resident even after the user removes it. There's no such thing, to my knowledge, as an app being able to gain an "administrator" level access and then modify parts of the underlying platform to give itself more staying power.

[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 11:23:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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...and of course, Trend Micro and the other antivirus people would *love* to have a chance to sell AV to every smartphone user out there, and they'll do their best to write and publish virii if that's what it takes.

[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 23:12:48 EDT from Ford II

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no such thing, to my knowledge, as an app being able to gain an
"administrator" level access and then modify parts of the underlying
platform to give itself more staying power.
it may not exist yet, but that's only because no malware writer has written it yet. :-)

[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 23:13:46 EDT from Ford II

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So I rooted this augen gentouch tablet I got my hands on. I imagine you've all done this by now, but all it involves is replacing su.
So... I don't see anything stopping an application from doing that. reboot and voila write all over the OS.

[#] Wed Jun 29 2011 23:23:24 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Wed Jun 29 2011 11:12:48 PM EDT from Ford II
no such thing, to my knowledge, as an app being able to gain an
"administrator" level access and then modify parts of the underlying
platform to give itself more staying power.

Actually, all it takes is the way that most S/ME's run their IT departments.  They don't need to program the app to gain admin access....sadly, they just need to make use of the in-house stupid.



[#] Thu Jun 30 2011 13:54:32 EDT from Ford II

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I got dropbear running on the gentouch so now I don't have to keep it plugged in to the usb port so I can adb to it.
I also found you can get these things for about $10-$20 on ebay.
Not a bad deal for a tablet. I got youtube working on it, so $20 for a 7 inch youtube player with wifi ain't bad.

[#] Sun Jul 03 2011 15:45:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I like that. "make use of the in-house stupid."

We know that plenty of organizations have an abundance of in-house stupid.

[#] Mon Jul 04 2011 17:50:01 EDT from Ford II

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so one thing I can't figure out. On the stock browser on android (whatever it is, it ain't chrome) it seems you can only search.
if I put a url in the address bar it searches for it. there doesn't seem to be any way to just GO TO a URL.

[#] Tue Jul 05 2011 14:27:46 EDT from Ladyhawke

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IG,

Worst part is that the in-house stupid is still so much better than the out-(of)-house stupid.  On the other hand, the armchair amusement is ever so much higher the other way around....

 

Ford, I think that's a Bing Thing.



[#] Mon Jul 11 2011 09:18:35 EDT from dothebart

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YES.

http://cincinnatibell.com/milestoneupgrade/

motorola phear the power of opensource!



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