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[#] Tue May 31 2011 14:48:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Here's even more fun which will disgust you even more on this subject:

[ http://goo.gl/1CQE8 ]

Executive summary: because HTC pays Microsoft a $5 royalty for every Android phone, and because nobody really wants Windows Vista Phone 7 (or any other Microsoft mobile device) ...

Microsoft has received FIVE TIMES MORE INCOME from Android phones than from Windows Vista Phone.

[#] Tue May 31 2011 15:13:58 EDT from fleeb

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Well, that's a nice way of not having to work for your money.

*shakes head*



[#] Mon Jun 06 2011 17:48:21 EDT from Ford II

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maybe a little unfair, since there would never have been a single
wince phone without HTC.

hey business is business and greed is good.

[#] Mon Jun 06 2011 17:50:23 EDT from Ford II

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Microsoft has received FIVE TIMES MORE INCOME from Android phones than

from Windows Vista Phone.

Not a bad scam if you can get away with it. Which they seem to be.
Who knows. Maybe windows phones exist to drive people to android phones instead of iphones, because MS makes more money that way.

[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 08:54:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The other fun news in mobile ...

"Apple's iOS 5 Directly Lifts Features from Android"

[ http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2011/06/07/apples-ios-5-directly-lifts/ ]

After several years of those within the Jobsian Sphere of Influence insisting that Android is just a badly done clone of the iPhone ... iOS 5 is now copying actual UI ideas from Android.

(Hey, I don't blame them -- these are *good* UI elements, like Android's event notification system, which has always been very intuitive. It's just ironic to see.)

[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 08:59:29 EDT from Nite*Star

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After several years of those within the Jobsian Sphere of Influence
insisting that Android is just a badly done clone of the iPhone ... iOS

5 is now copying actual UI ideas from Android.

(Hey, I don't blame them -- these are *good* UI elements, like
Android's event notification system, which has always been very
intuitive. It's just ironic to see.)

Don't forget the cloud ...

Oh, and Apple is suing Samsung for iPhone patent infringement. Apparently the TouchWiz interface developed by Samsung is too iPhone-like, and the Galaxy-S (especially the Epic 4G) class phones are too iPhone-looking.

[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 11:42:58 EDT from fleeb

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Gotta love lawsuits based on 'look and feel', no?

Oh, wait... they've been there before.



[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 17:21:21 EDT from Spell Binder

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And lost before.

[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 17:53:24 EDT from fleeb

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If at first you don't succeed...

[#] Fri Jun 10 2011 14:52:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The consumer electronics industry is all about patents and cross licensing.
It's very ugly, and it's more common than most of us software folks realize.

[#] Fri Jun 10 2011 22:11:11 EDT from Ford II

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If at first you don't succeed...

... sue sue again.

[#] Sat Jun 18 2011 15:09:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yeah. Well, the big deal right now is still Samurai Larry trying to sue Google for BILLIONS in damages because Android uses the Java language but it doesn't use Oracle's Java runtime. In the end what'll probably happen, which is what usually happens in these cases, is that they'll either end up with some sort of cross-licensing agreement, or a few pennies/dollars will be added to the cost of every Android to send to Oracle.

Universal adoption of open source software and the abolition of software patents would be a good thing for pretty much everyone except a handful of abusive bigcos.

[#] Sun Jun 19 2011 17:16:17 EDT from triLcat

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What are the risks of rooting an android?

I've heard of iPhones being bricked. Does that happen to Droids?



[#] Sun Jun 19 2011 19:04:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Depends on the phone. Many (such as my trusty G1) have a hardwired ROM whose only role is to start up a second stage bootloader (referred to as the "Recovery image") which is in flash, which in turn loads and starts the actual Android operating system. With a stack like that it's practically impossible to brick a phone so badly that someone who knows what they're doing can't recover it.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2011 02:35:53 EDT from triLcat

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Ok. I have a Samsung Galaxy S running Froyo. Froyo is supposed to have Hebrew fonts built in, but it doesn't...

By all accounts, I have to root the phone to install a new font set.

It's not my phone, so I'm not eager to do something that could screw it up.

Maybe when the next upgrade comes out, it'll have Hebrew fonts...

 

 



[#] Tue Jun 21 2011 07:21:21 EDT from dothebart

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have a look at this video:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/MeeGo-Smartphone-von-Nokia-1264193.html

i'd call it outright stupid to start with windows CE where you even have to redesign the PCBs to get the supported chips running if you have something in a that workeable state.

maybe this was some sort of getting them work harder? Or to get the rest of the world shut up?

get those see-carpet guys to run wince apps, get somebody porting parts of the android stuff, run android and wince apps on the phone. Start promoting ovi further, done.

 

but for shure, whats shown in the video is hardly catchup, similar as microsoft delivering vista phone.

 



[#] Tue Jun 21 2011 07:22:00 EDT from dothebart

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oh, and it instantly has a navigation software, which vista fon still doesn't have?



[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 17:55:47 EDT from Ford II

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So I have my rooted G1 and it's all fine and wonderful but lately I've gotten the idea that maybe I want something faster. Having put cyanogenmod 6 on it, it's pretty damn slow. It can surf the web sorta, and it can play videos mostly....
but I was thinking of getting something faster. I don't need to use it for a phone, I was going to use for it what everybody else uses a tablet for.
Having not kept up with the zillions of phones they're making nowadays.
What's a recent but not too ebay-expensive android machine?

A friend of mine picked up some really old android 1.6 tablet for $85. IT's horrible.
Any suggestions?

[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 18:46:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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One thing I found about upgrading my G1 to CyanogenMod is that after a couple of upgrades and downgrades it got really unusable, but after I wiped it clean and put in CM 6.x (whatever the latest 6.x is, I'm not going to try 7) it's been running very nicely ever since.

What kind of tablet is that? I have a Craig CMP768a tablet which earlier this year was selling for around $85 at CVS. It was insanely easy to root (copy this file to the device over USB and then pull the plug and let it reboot) and it's now running Android 2.1 with some extra goodies. Despite not being an official Google build, they got the Market running. I even managed to run Angry Birds on it, although the frame rate isn't great. IGlet has it in his hands all the time for watching his elevator videos on YouTube.

Searching for "craig tablet" on eBay currently shows two used ones, one for $65 and another for $90. The only thing about this device is that it can get very cranky about operating on some encrypted wifi networks.

[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 18:46:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Sorry, CMP738a not 768.

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