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[#] Sun Sep 06 2015 14:43:38 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Fri Sep 04 2015 10:16:29 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Yup. It was split up, though. The legacy Netware stuff went to Attachmate.
SuSE was spun back off into its own operation, which is what dothebart was talking about earlier. And those two asshats Miguel and Nat went off and created a new Ximian (called Xamarin this time).
 
went off? they outright fired them by discontinuing the see-carpet support. instantly. I guess in Nurnberg there was a party similar to that at HP when Fiorina left.


So yes, "acquired by Attachmate" is a synonym for "obsolete"
 

 



[#] Wed Sep 09 2015 00:59:42 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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What, no Slackware. I want to see a pipe in there somewhere.



[#] Tue Sep 15 2015 07:56:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For that to happen, at some point in the past there would have had to be a "Slackware Enterprise Edition" with a five-figure price tag and a utility that does file transfers to and from a mainframe.  You need to touch the mainframe in some way.



[#] Tue Sep 15 2015 18:18:54 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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A picture of Ignat's infected toe



[#] Fri Sep 18 2015 00:26:07 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Tue Sep 15 2015 07:56:13 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

For that to happen, at some point in the past there would have had to be a "Slackware Enterprise Edition" with a five-figure price tag and a utility that does file transfers to and from a mainframe.  You need to touch the mainframe in some way.



Pat just lives up the road from here.  I could see if he would "do lunch", and we could probably work something out :-)  Just kidding.  I know from prior email exchanges about inclusion of PAM in Slackware, that he is a bit too practical for all that mess.  Not that he did not say I could not do the work, it was just that I would be on my own and it would not be included in the mainline.



[#] Fri Sep 18 2015 00:30:21 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Tue Sep 15 2015 06:18:54 PM EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

(cut pix of Tux as trashcan)



Now I need to modify our trash cans.  Would that be a tracheotomy of sorts?  And again, it should more properly have a pipe.

http://www.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/shared/slackpenguinlogo.jpg

Now that's better.



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 10:18:31 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, so HP didn't manage to replace a mainframe from the 60'ies in TEN YEARS?

You probably can write a software emulator for such a system in a little over one year.

maybe they should have better asked attachmate?



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 10:19:07 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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(and yes, doing it in javascript would probably end up being fast enough on recent hardware...)



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 17:06:59 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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2015-09-22 10:18 from dothebart @uncnsrd
hm, so HP didn't manage to replace a mainframe from the 60'ies in TEN
YEARS?

Ever tried to just get them to configure VPN connectivity to some of their hosted enterprise services division? That'll put it into perspective ;)

[#] Wed Sep 23 2015 08:45:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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VPN is the same everywhere:

One competent network person with access to both ends can configure it in ten minutes.

Two, one at each end with the encryption settings and addresses documented ahead of time, can do it in fifteen.

After that, the time goes up exponentially.  And the moment someone proposes a conference call to set up a VPN, all hope is lost and it will take millenia.



[#] Wed Sep 23 2015 10:59:23 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, that was very complicated and slow at gemalto too.. but sooner or later you would get it...



[#] Mon Nov 30 2015 11:11:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The new Raspberry Pi "Zero" is here.

It appears that they have reduced it to the absolute bare minimum and set the price at $5 (USD).  512 MB of memory, no ethernet, one USB.  They've reduced the connectors; some are only available via solder pads (like composite video and GPIO) and others are reduced-form-factor connectors (mini-HDMI and micro-USB).

At that price, and that size (65mmx30mm), people are already designing devices in the "throwie" form factor.



[#] Tue Dec 01 2015 07:35:09 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: my first microsoft program running natively on linux..

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hm, only some gtk... so loooots of libs ;-) https://code.visualstudio.com/?xd=406643&cr_eac=300322935

7 processes, 60 threads, seems to have acceptable resource consumption..

VSCode-linux-x64$ ldd ./Code
        linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fffb9ffe000)
        libnode.so => /local/home/willi/local/VSCode-linux-x64/./libnode.so (0x00007f01680c5000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f0167e7a000)
        libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f016782c000)
        libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0167576000)
        libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f016734f000)
        libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0167141000)
        libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007f0166e2c000)
        libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0166bde000)
        libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007f0166932000)
        libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007f01666f5000)
        libnotify.so.4 => /local/home/willi/local/VSCode-linux-x64/./libnotify.so.4 (0x00007f01664ed000)
        libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f01662ca000)
        libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0165f51000)
        libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0165cff000)
        libdbus-1.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007f0165ab6000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f0165773000)
        libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007f0165569000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f0165356000)
        libgconf-2.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgconf-2.so.4 (0x00007f0165125000)
        libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0164f21000)
        librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007f0164d18000)
        libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0164a09000)
        libnss3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so (0x00007f01646c1000)
        libnssutil3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnssutil3.so (0x00007f0164494000)
        libsmime3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmime3.so (0x00007f0164267000)
        libplc4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplc4.so (0x00007f0164062000)
        libnspr4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnspr4.so (0x00007f0163e22000)
        libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 (0x00007f0163b2a000)
        libcups.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcups.so.2 (0x00007f01638b2000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f01636ad000)
        libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXi.so.6 (0x00007f016349d000)
        libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007f0163292000)
        libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007f016308b000)
        libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007f0162e81000)
        libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007f0162c7e000)
        libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007f0162a7a000)
        libXtst.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXtst.so.6 (0x00007f0162874000)
        libexpat.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007f016264b000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f016233f000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f016203e000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f0161e28000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0161a7e000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f01692d7000)
        libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0161868000)
        libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00007f0161664000)
        libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0161462000)
        libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007f01611b4000)
        libpng12.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 (0x00007f0160f8d000)
        libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007f0160d89000)
        libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007f0160b7e000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f016095c000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0160741000)
        libthai.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthai.so.0 (0x00007f0160537000)
        libselinux.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 (0x00007f0160312000)
        libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f01600fa000)
        libffi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffi.so.6 (0x00007f015fef2000)
        libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 (0x00007f015fcca000)
        libpcre.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0x00007f015fa5c000)
        libplds4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplds4.so (0x00007f015f857000)
        libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x00007f015f60d000)
        libgnutls-deb0.so.28 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28 (0x00007f015f2ee000)
        libavahi-common.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavahi-common.so.3 (0x00007f015f0e0000)
        libavahi-client.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavahi-client.so.3 (0x00007f015eecf000)
        libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007f015ec77000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f015ea73000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f015e86d000)
        libdatrie.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdatrie.so.1 (0x00007f015e665000)
        libkrb5.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5.so.3 (0x00007f015e390000)
        libk5crypto.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3 (0x00007f015e15f000)
        libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcom_err.so.2 (0x00007f015df5b000)
        libkrb5support.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5support.so.0 (0x00007f015dd4e000)
        libkeyutils.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 (0x00007f015db4a000)
        libp11-kit.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libp11-kit.so.0 (0x00007f015d904000)
        libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007f015d6ef000)
        libnettle.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnettle.so.4 (0x00007f015d4bd000)
        libhogweed.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.2 (0x00007f015d28e000)
        libgmp.so.10 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmp.so.10 (0x00007f015d00a000)
        libgraphite2.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgraphite2.so.3 (0x00007f015cdee000)



[#] Wed Dec 02 2015 11:57:32 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: my first microsoft program running natively on linux..

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That looks surprisingly native. What languages does it support?

[#] Thu Dec 03 2015 02:30:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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debugging is currently only supported for node and rails.

the C++ i've opened had propper syntax highlighting.



[#] Mon Dec 14 2015 07:36:29 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Pi server, take two

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I finally took some time this weekend to work the bugs out of the Raspberry Pi based server that I am running in my house.  I didn't want to put it back into any serious use until I got it working reliably.

I had gone through all sorts of grief trying to get two hard disks working at the same time.  This shouldn't be a big deal.  I had a hunch, which later proved to be incorrect, that the CheapChinese(tm) USB-to-SATA adapters had a bug somewhere that made them malfunction when you connected two of them.  I eventually bought a dual-channel USB-to-SATA adapter but still had problems.  For a while I was using one channel of the dual-channel adapter, and one of the single-channel adapters.  I also had everything running through a powered hub, thinking that even the light power load from the electronics (keyboard etc) might be fux0ring the Pi.

Fast forward to the facepalm moment.  It turns out that my problem the whole time has been that the CheapChinese(tm) power supplies that came with the original USB-to-SATA adapters aren't beefy enough to reliably power one disk, let alone two.  Eventually I swapped in the power supply that came with the dual-channel adapter.  Despite the fact that they all are marked "2000 mA," this one actually had enough power to run the disks.  It's now reliably booting, every time, without requiring me to poke it with a stick during boot to get all volumes mounted.

I have a 2 GB MicroSD card in the Pi so I'm only using it for booting.  The root filesystem is on one hard disk, and the other is for offsite backups of my hosted servers.  Now that I've got it working reliably, I might think about putting it all in a nice box with a bunch of LED's wired to the GPIO pins.  Here's a photo of the current setup.



[#] Wed Dec 30 2015 18:00:06 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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as you may already have seen the rumors on xmodulo in the rss room, here is the official statement:

https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/mourning-ian-murdock.html

The Ian in debIan is no more :-(



[#] Wed Dec 30 2015 18:11:55 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5

his last tweets... bottom up... very strange.



[#] Sat Jan 02 2016 01:40:37 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Strange indeed.  Not sure what was going on based on those tweets.



[#] Sat Jan 02 2016 04:24:36 EST from ryan42 @ Uncensored

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I'm not familiar with the guy but it sounded to me like he got a few too many beers in and his neighbor called the police on him. He got into an altercation with the police that resulted in him being arrested, possibly twice. At some point during this he decided he had made enough of a mess of his life that the most useful thing he could do was to become a martyr for police brutality awareness.

Like I said, I'm not familiar with him other than knowing who he is because of his work on Debian, but I have known a few highly intellectual people who because of the circumstances of their upbringing never really had a situation in their lives where they were subject to forced compliance to authority. I'm not sure if that applies to Murdock but I can certinaly see how the situation may have quickly escalated if it did.

I also would suspect he may have been troubled in other ways before this all began.

I haven't seen his name pop up in the news over the past few days so I think the self-martyring may have been in vain, as well.

Quite a shame. :-/

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