Subject: Re: Metro for the masses
SCO is finally in Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Sure took long enough.
I suppose in retrospect we can call the SCO debacle a Microsoft pilot project in Linux extortion, since they later perfected their technique and are now using sooper-seekrit patent agreements with individual Linux companies instead of simply funding obvious trolls.
Yes, SCO shurely was a test animal to burn while making software patent negotiations a working business.
And, I guess it paved the land for lots of other things which are going on in the legal sector right now.
But, we also see, judges aren't as clueless as we always might think, and some meanwhile are getting more encuraged to slapping the offender.
I hope this trend continues.
Subject: Looking for a linux-based Citadel for telnet users
I am new to linux, fleeing Windows, and want to host a linux-based BBS.
In thhe past, I have run a Windows-based Cit BBS, but I don't want to do so now.
I'd like to download a simple linux-based Cit program that can handle telnet users.
I know that this BBS code can do a whole lot more than that, but, for now, I just
want to support the telnet side of things at first. Apache and the web side can come later.
I have a linux-based server to run the Cit on. I just need a download webpage
for this or any other Cit BBS that can hhandle telnet users that runs native in linux.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Harry.
Subject: Re: Looking for a linux-based Citadel for telnet users
hello harry!
Have you had a look at http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:start ?
Which flavour of linux are you running? Getting the telnet part up and running should be fairly easy.
Subject: Re: Looking for a linux-based Citadel for telnet users
Fri Nov 04 2011 07:36:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ UncensoredOooh, I like the idea of a "rolling" distribution. It's definitely not for everyone, but the idea of simply getting constant updates instead of ever having a Big New Version (tm) seems attractive for an end user.
Let us know how that works out for you.
Just remembered to let you know, LMDE XFCE 64bit worked out just fine, as near as we can tell.
No problems yet, anyway.
Just revisited this as we are upgrading our backup to the new 201204 version to get the Citadel 8.14 in place.
Seems ok so far.
LMDE turns out to be more of a 'lurching' adventure than a rolling distribution as the updates are generally waiting on
clusters of upgrades to make it through the vetting process before getting into the updates arena. A debian characteristic of sorts.
The heartburn of worrying about whether everything will hold together after an upgrade
is probably just about as focus-intensive as a full bare-metal reinstall but the thought is that
everything remains more or less in the same place each time without those moments
where you discover that some of your key software no longer works at all because
someone decided to remove all the wheels, for no particularly urgent reason. (I also use SeisUnix, which has had moments)
This business of improving software by cyclically adding unrelated functionality seems to be a disease with no cure,
as the saga with KDE and now GNOME seems to illustrate. A global epidemic?
They should have forked off with their grand ideas and left the train on the same rails (I do use KDE4 now sometimes, but....)
If you cannot just upgrade in place, and are required to re-Frakking-install each and every time the basis iterates,
there is a fundamental problem in someones 'big picture' program.
--
TheOneLaw
Why not use a real rolling distro like Arch or Gentoo (where the package maintainer is currently procrastinanting with other stuff instead of updating the ebuilds..... ;)? I don't know if there is an arch... build script or something, but could be done, I think.
The other way of dealing with this stuff is using a LTS version of a distro. As a conservativ debian (and derivates) hater, I chose centos for some of my servers. Centos6 is going to stay for a while. On the other hand, I am considering ClearOS as an alternative for more SBS like installs.
at least remembering what I forgot when I installed the last time.
KDE. I hated it. I had messed around a little with other distros/environments but not enough. Then my ex-boss had a
project he wanted me to work on in the last few weeks of my ex-company's operations. He wanted it on Ubuntu with the
default Gnome flavor. I was empressed, things were easy and everything seemed to work. I installed and started to dual
boot with it at home and very quickly it became my OS of choice. If I had any questions I thought the forums were very
friendly and helpful.
I dislike Gnome3/unity, I was ready for something else. I tried Fedora but not enough and felt Debian was the next step in
the evolution. I don't think Debian people are as friendly as the Ubuntu crowd.
Although I must admit I am beginning to warm up to GNOME Shell.
lot of older versions of programs such as GIMP and VirtualBox. Those I am not happy about wish it
game with the latest versions of those programs.
then Debian should.
I wouldn't run a debian stable on a desktop.
testing usualy is stable enough (unless the first 2 months after stable is released...)
there are also backports, if you like to install more modern software on the aging stable stuff.
dependency that was needed.
Feh, maybe I should just get away from the Debian style and move on to something else.