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[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 14:03:54 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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I just wanted to share a (hopefully soon-to-be) Linux success story.

A coworker came by asking me if I had any experience with Linux servers.
I was expecting a technical question, or a request for assistance, so I conservatively answered that I know a moderate amount.

Instead of the expected tech-support, he tells me that the Windows file server he runs in our lab is starting to die. He's going to replace the system with a new one, and wanted to know if Linux could behave like a Windows file server.

I told that samba would do what he needed. He said that was great because Linux was cheaper and that was it.

It's nice to be able to help our company save money.
Linux Binder

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 14:29:55 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Speaking of stupid google, they just killed wave, I heard. :-)



[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 14:31:35 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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And I just can't see interpreted bycode being more efficient than compiled-to-the-processor code. I just can't.
Why don't they just run one of those java to native compilers. If they're not keeping to any spec where you can share the bytecode anyway, what's th epoint?

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 16:30:27 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Pity... I used wave on rare occasions. I think it could have gone somewhere if they had promoted it a little differently.

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 16:48:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Why don't they just run one of those java to native compilers. If
they're not keeping to any spec where you can share the bytecode
anyway, what's th epoint?

Actually, that could be kind of cool -- the app is distributed as bytecode, but compiles to native code when the app is installed to the mobile device.
Kind of like distributing source code except with less room for things to go wrong.

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 18:06:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hey, look at it this way: at least they didn't decide to develop apps in FORTH.
Buncha obsolete wankers and their outdated embedded systems :)

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 18:58:39 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Google Go would probably have some advantages as an embedded systems language...

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 19:46:27 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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then they'll have google Me Go.

[#] Fri Aug 06 2010 12:14:45 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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I used Wave a couple of times - I was never gripped.

[#] Fri Aug 06 2010 15:52:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It was supposed to be the Next Big Thing but I don't think anyone ever figured out what it was useful for.

[#] Sun Aug 08 2010 01:14:25 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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That's the thing, they were pushing a product w/o a need. Features that nobody thinks they can use now. Thing is though, I used wave a bit and it really did have serious potential. It re-worked they way people could have used e-mail to communicate. It re-defined e-mail. Add a person into an existing conversation and they get the ability to read/view the convo from the begining, including any attatchments.

VERY useful features for biz; esp. when working on a project and add'l people are brought in to work on it, either from outside (consulting) or inside the corporation.

[#] Sun Aug 08 2010 06:49:09 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, the biggest problem with Wave, perhaps, is that it's centrally managed.

If businesses had their own Wave engine, where all their data remained at their facility, it might be more compelling.



[#] Sun Aug 08 2010 08:10:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, they did publish the protocol, and a bunch of code. If it had taken off there would have been a lot of software able to host it. I had observed that if it became huge, we would have built Wave support into Citadel. Even the folks at Lotuss and Microsoft could have played.

[#] Sun Aug 08 2010 15:57:33 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I can see a problem with add-somebody-to-a-conversation-later features.
I realize its the same thing as adding somebody to a reply all chain, but if that became the standard way of doing things, it make make it so much of a habit that people would add the wrong person not having seeing the bad comment made in their direction.

[#] Sun Aug 08 2010 23:02:28 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Of course, that problem exists now.



[#] Mon Aug 09 2010 02:37:02 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Aug 8 2010 11:02pm from fleeb @uncnsrd
Of course, that problem exists now.

Right, except that with Google Wave, all of the attachments that were part of a "wave became accessible to new participants of the wave. Oh, and you
could also have public and private waves, and wavelets. I got a little confused as to what constituted a wave versus a wavelet but the whole thing was just cool.

There was one point where I shared a video with people, when Wave first started coming out. And instead of having to eat up bandwidth and take up more storage space in my webmail account by forwarding the same file to new people as they entered the convo, they were able to view the video (and all comments from the beginning) just by joining the wave. That just had a coolness factor of like a Googolplex!

[#] Mon Aug 09 2010 21:30:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's great, but it seems that Wave doesn't do that any better than any traditional message board, or even a blog. The added functionality of seeing everyone update the conversation in real time has coolness factor, but does it really add any value?

[#] Tue Aug 10 2010 02:09:43 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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You actually were able to "replay" the entire conversation from the beginning, and watch as people joined & contributed to the conversation.

[#] Tue Aug 10 2010 07:39:53 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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again, cool but valueless...

[#] Tue Aug 10 2010 10:49:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Not only valueless, but it may actually be a liability. I would compare it to the problems that began to surface when it became common to send word processing documents as email attachments, and unwittingly created situations where the entire undo history was viewable. ooooops.

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