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[#] Thu Jun 10 2010 09:14:55 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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they make servers, we own a ton of them, and we get real support and everything.


Apparently their zfs is the shit but I'm not interested enough to find out what's so wonderful about it.

[#] Thu Jun 10 2010 09:35:12 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I think the latest sun desktop thing was sunray; you could take your x-session along with a smartcard... nice thing.



[#] Thu Jun 10 2010 11:35:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Apparently their zfs is the shit but I'm not interested enough to find

out what's so wonderful about it.

If you ask Sun, what's so wonderful about it is that they gave the code a license specifically designed to keep it from being ported to Linux.

I have some ZFS running in our data center. It's essentially a file system, logical volume manager, and software RAID all rolled into one, with features that take advantage of a tight integration between the three.

[#] Thu Jun 10 2010 15:34:49 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Ford...if you ever keep in touch with Wayne Mehl, ask him, some time, about Sun support and "man bind"

[#] Sat Jun 12 2010 07:47:28 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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I believe a few years ago Apple was considering moving the Mac to ZFS. That would be a monumental effort unless they can get ZFS to ignore case.

Now that Oracle bought Sun they've said they're going to put more money into developing SPARC than Sun ever did. This excites me as I like obscure processor architectures. Now that my Macs run x86 all I have is this dual UltraSPARC III Cu server to keep me weird.

Life is boring if you don't take any RISCs.

[#] Sat Jun 12 2010 11:47:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Heh. "to keep me weird" I like that. :)

Dunno about ZFS; there's now either a conflict of interest, or a redundancy, depending on how you look at it. Sun was quite deliberate about licensing ZFS in a way that specifically prevented it from being ported into the Linux kernel. The response from the Linux community was btrfs, which by many accounts is actually going to be "a better ZFS than ZFS."

The btrfs project is managed mainly by Oracle ... who now owns Sun, and therefore owns ZFS.

Weird time for this to be happening, now that some Linux distributions are actually starting to talk about using btrfs as the primary file system in their alpha-quality builds. Will Sun pull out of the btrfs project? Will they relicense ZFS, making it usable in Linux and creating a redundancy? Or will they continue to walk both paths independently of each other?

[#] Sat Jun 12 2010 11:49:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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[#] Sun Jun 13 2010 23:12:29 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Ford...if you ever keep in touch with Wayne Mehl, ask him, some time,


now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. No, I haven't heard from him since I left if not before that.

[#] Tue Jun 15 2010 09:46:53 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. No, I haven't heard

from him since I left if not before that.

I still chat with him from time to time...but we live in the same general vicinity.

[#] Mon Jun 21 2010 09:35:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Find the computer that actually works, in this picture: http://tinyurl.com/2vca3rv (Heh. Linux gets it done!)

[#] Mon Jun 21 2010 11:12:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I think its remarkable to point out that the wintendos have different bluescreens; watch the width of the messages ;-)



[#] Mon Aug 02 2010 23:05:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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How about some good news in Linux land?

Android might just be the biggest Linux out there right now. According to this report...

http://www.enterprisemobiletoday.com/news/article.php/3896301/Android-Handset-Sales-Beat-iPhone-Amid-Froyo-22-Update-Fre
or ... http://tinyurl.com/2wuqovp

Android phone shipments grew by a whopping 851 percent this quarter, giving it a total of 34 percent market share, compared to Apple's 21 percent and RIM's 32 percent.

Apple fanbois are going to find it harder and harder to deny that Google is running away with the market.

These are nice numbers any way you view them, though. Three major players, each with a strong product, in healthy competition with each other, each with roughly a third of the market. I like that.

What I like even more is that out of those three players, NONE of them are Microsoft. Microsoft's mobile platform continues to be a non-starter.

[#] Tue Aug 03 2010 05:28:03 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Sheesh... have you ever tried working with a Microsoft phone?

They suck rocks.  Through tiny tubes.

*looks around nervously*



[#] Tue Aug 03 2010 08:12:24 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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had one of those for quiet a while.

didn't manage to hack it before it died :(

yes, the UI is ugly.

it can't even play ringtones from the sd card.



[#] Tue Aug 03 2010 18:49:47 EDT from TheOneLaw @ Uncensored

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The N900 is my comfort zone,

having a root> prompt in a CLI window on my handphone is something orgasmic,

not to mention being able to run native debian apps.

It has some Nokia binary stuff to be sure, but the OS is simply a basic linux.

 

Android sound like it is a smoke-and-mirrors javafest rather than true open-source,

but since I do not actually own an Android machine perhaps someone could shed some light on this.

The Android market is certainly having positive effects on thepublic push for open source,

-- 
TheOneLaw



[#] Tue Aug 03 2010 22:17:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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To develop applications for Android, you're mostly developing in Java.  But there's some C++ you can do:

http://www.android.com/

It really is a distribution of Linux.  Some things are kind of kept secret by Google, because of agreements they've made with other vendors, but a good portion of the operating system and its components are open sourced.  Including the Java-related stuff.



[#] Wed Aug 04 2010 18:11:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Java was a good decision; it ensures that applications will continue to run regardless of what processor is in the phone. Native ARM code may sound like a good idea now, but what about that spiffy processor that comes out ten years from now?

[#] Wed Aug 04 2010 21:06:57 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I'd hate to think that the almighty google would be so stupid as to run a jvm on a phone.
Burn all that cpu and battery... for what?
It's a phone, get some perspective.
Can I honestly take a jar file from my windows machine copy it to my droid and have it work?
If so, google has really gone off the rails.

In 10 years it won't matter if it's native arm code becuasause a whole generation of hardware and software will have gone by.

[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 09:31:38 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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android uses the davlik vm.

plus android doesn't even remotely follow the j2me spec.



[#] Thu Aug 05 2010 12:49:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Can I honestly take a jar file from my windows machine copy it to my
droid and have it work?

No. The language is the same but the API is different. And as dothebart
mentioned, they have their own JVM called Davlik which is designed to run
very efficiently on mobile devices.

If so, google has really gone off the rails.

It's Java ... not Ruby on Rails.

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