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[#] Sat Jun 27 2020 11:16:19 EDT from skenigma @ Uncensored

Subject: Support request.

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I performed an easy install, but most the files from the documented file list do not appear.
I configured a room with the appropriate alias, but the server returns all email to that alias as undeliverable, user not found.
I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no joy.
Any thoughts?



[#] Sun Jun 28 2020 11:42:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Support request.

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I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no

mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email addresses to the account.

[#] Sun Jun 28 2020 11:47:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?

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OK from doing a comparison with 917 I can see that "CULL" has been removed
as
a manual command from modules/ctdlproto/serv_syscmds.c. And cdb_cull_logs()


The CULL command has been deprecated for some time. You can now use the built-in configuration directive "automatically delete committed database logs". This is the default behavior, so unless you've changed it, you're already ok here.

If you are working in an environment where you want to back up all of the logs before deleting them, you can use the Berkeley DB utilities to accomplish the same thing. "db_archive -d" will do the same thing that the CULL server command used to do.

Documentation for the Berkeley DB utilities: [ https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17275_01/html/api_reference/C/utilities.html ]

[#] Sun Jun 28 2020 11:48:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel unresponsive due to corrupted message

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Jun 22 23:25:38 h2884472 citserver[1677]: msgbase: message 0 appears
to be corrupted

There is no "message 0" anywhere on a Citadel system. If you get that message it means that something fed a null message number into something else, no need to worry about that.

[#] Mon Jun 29 2020 14:57:08 EDT from skenigma @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Support request.

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That didn't work either.



[#] Mon Jun 29 2020 15:01:37 EDT from skenigma @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Support request.

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Sun Jun 28 2020 11:42:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Support request.
I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no

mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email addresses to the account.

Sorry, I tried this, well for the room.  



 



[#] Tue Jun 30 2020 12:12:44 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> to skenigma <skenigma@uncensored.citadel.org>,Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: Support request.

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Maybe this can works for you too.

I create a room called "Sales".
In Thunderbird, with IMAP, using my account and subscribed to "Sales
floor", I get this structure:

My_account
|-Inbox
|-Sales_Floor
+|-info
|-kind1
|-kind2
|-kind3

Then I can send/read mails to/from room_info@, room_kind2@... and so on

Even here I can send mail to this "room.":
room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com

Regards

On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:
Sun Jun 28 2020 11:42:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Subject: Re: Support request.

I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no


mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To
add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email
addresses to the account.

Sorry, I tried this, well for the room.

[#] Tue Jun 30 2020 17:14:24 EDT from skenigma @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Support request.

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I can get mail at room_info@domain    but I was looking to setup a mailing list that when someone mails info@domain it sends that message to several users (a shared mailbox works in a pinch, but not preferred)

 

 

Tue Jun 30 2020 12:12:44 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> Subject: Re: Support request.
Maybe this can works for you too.



So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com

Regards

On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:


[#] Tue Jun 30 2020 18:06:32 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> to skenigma <skenigma@uncensored.citadel.org>,Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

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The same problem that I "half solved" by creating an "info@domain"
account and using sieve filtering rules, then it redirected the emails
to the accounts that require it.

But there's a problem:
They don't always run the sieve rule (maybe it's just a problem in my
old version)

Maybe with this one the sieve rule works better, creating:

1) the "info@domain" account
2) the sieve rule that always forwards mail to room_info
3) the "room_info" to which your users have access (subscriptions)

So your users will see the emails in room_info and will see the email as
if it was sent to them.

Regards


On 6/30/20 3:14 PM, skenigma wrote:
I can get mail at room_info@domain    but I was looking to setup a
mailing list that when someone mails info@domain it sends that message
to several users (a shared mailbox works in a pinch, but not preferred)

Tue Jun 30 2020 12:12:44 EDT from "s3cr3to"
<s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> Subject: Re: Support request.
Maybe this can works for you too.



So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com

Regards

On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:

[#] Thu Jul 02 2020 14:17:56 EDT from BenM @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?

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Thanks - thanks 'db_archive -d' should do the trick.

Sun Jun 28 2020 11:47:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?
OK from doing a comparison with 917 I can see that "CULL" has been removed
as
a manual command from modules/ctdlproto/serv_syscmds.c. And cdb_cull_logs()


The CULL command has been deprecated for some time. You can now use the built-in configuration directive "automatically delete committed database logs". This is the default behavior, so unless you've changed it, you're already ok here.

If you are working in an environment where you want to back up all of the logs before deleting them, you can use the Berkeley DB utilities to accomplish the same thing. "db_archive -d" will do the same thing that the CULL server command used to do.

Documentation for the Berkeley DB utilities: [ https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17275_01/html/api_reference/C/utilities.html ]

 



[#] Thu Jul 02 2020 15:00:10 EDT from BenM @ Uncensored

Subject: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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Hi,

I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'? Both seem to work - at least some of the time - but if I set an alias in one place it is not reflected in the other.

IIRC 'Edit configuration -> Internet e-mail aliases' didn't exist in previous releases so most of my users have aliases set under 'Edit address book entry'.

Ben



[#] Fri Jul 03 2020 18:49:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued in the next release

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This is an important announcement that will hopefully have very little effect.

OWe've decided to discontinue our use of the "Sieve" inbox filtering language in Citadel. This is being done for compatibility reasons -- no one is maintaining the library that parses it, and it is becoming problematic in builds on various platforms.

Note that this does NOT mean we're discontinuing the inbox filters. We're just removing the ability for users to write their own Sieve scripts, which hopefully is a very rare practice.

** If you are using "inbox rules" in WebCit, your rules will be automatically upgraded to the new system. **


[#] Fri Jul 03 2020 18:51:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet

e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'?


"Edit address book entry --> Internet e-mail aliases" is an administrator command to edit the Internet email addresses of any user on your system.

"Edit configuration --> Internet e-mail aliases" is a regular user level command to edit YOUR addresses.

[#] Fri Jul 03 2020 18:53:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: sieve2_license error

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Any way I can make easyinstall ignore the "checking for
sieve2_license in -lsieve... no" error and continue because it lloks
like libsieve is properly installed, just not the license file?

I'm not sure why the build would fail there, but one thing you can do is download the Easy Install script and the libSieve tarball and try to hack the script yourself. Not the answer you were probably looking for, but ---

If you've read a couple of messages above, you'll know that we've decided to abandon libSieve, because it's becoming old and problematic. Hopefully this will take care of your issue soon.

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 15:19:39 EDT from bennabiy1 @ Uncensored

Subject: unable to log in to uncensored with my username

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Hi IG... I am unable to log into the board with bennabiy because I think back in the day I used AIM auth, and it does not seem to be working anymore. Any way to recover that account?



[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 05:46:06 EDT from BenM @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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Sorry, I am still a little confused. I was just referring to the options displayed under 'Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts', beneath the list of users when logged in as the administrator.

The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access level for the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?

Thanks,

Ben

 

Fri Jul 03 2020 18:51:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet

e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'?


"Edit address book entry --> Internet e-mail aliases" is an administrator command to edit the Internet email addresses of any user on your system.

"Edit configuration --> Internet e-mail aliases" is a regular user level command to edit YOUR addresses.

 



[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 15:53:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access level
for
the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet

e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the

current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?

Ok, I see where the confusion is, and I think we'll have to do something about it.

The following two screens DO NOT edit your email addresses on the Citadel Server:

* Advanced --> Update your contact information
* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit address book entry

Those screens edit your vCard, which is just contact information.

To edit the addresses at which a user can actually receive mail from the Internet, use:

* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit configuration
Then you can change the "Primary Internet e-mail address" and "Internet e-mail aliases" (as many as will fit, separated by commas)

My previous answer was not exactly correct. Sorry about that. These screens are a bit confusing and we will find a way to fix that.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 16:48:36 EDT from bgerum2 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: sieve2_license error

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This sounds good to me. I really thougt about doing more hacking to the script (I already made it install the dependencies on openSUSE) but I was setting up a lubuntu vm on my server for the sole purpose of running citadel on it ...

Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?

 

Fri Jul 03 2020 18:53:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: sieve2_license error
Any way I can make easyinstall ignore the "checking for
sieve2_license in -lsieve... no" error and continue because it lloks
like libsieve is properly installed, just not the license file?

I'm not sure why the build would fail there, but one thing you can do is download the Easy Install script and the libSieve tarball and try to hack the script yourself. Not the answer you were probably looking for, but ---

If you've read a couple of messages above, you'll know that we've decided to abandon libSieve, because it's becoming old and problematic. Hopefully this will take care of your issue soon.

 



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 10:00:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: sieve2_license error

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Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?

This effort is front and center, but I wouldn't hold off on a new install while waiting for it.

Remember that if you set up your Citadel system using Easy Install, your database can simply be copied over to another system without exporting it first. Easy Install will also be able to export to a future Dockerized version.

[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 12:35:18 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> to IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>,Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued in the nextrelease

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I'm waiting for the Docker version; but maybe after this change, I could
set up a test server and see if the migration by copying the database
will work in our case.

I use to write sieve scripts (with some issues), but I can bite the
bullet. If as you said: The option "Filter it according to rules
selected below" in "Advanced | View/edit server-side mail filters" for
each user, will still work.

Thank you!


On 7/3/20 4:49 PM, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:

This is an important announcement that will hopefully have very little effect.


OWe've decided to discontinue our use of the "Sieve" inbox filtering language
in Citadel. This is being done for compatibility reasons -- no one is maintaining
the library that parses it, and it is becoming problematic in builds on various
platforms.

Note that this does NOT mean we're discontinuing the inbox filters. We're
just removing the ability for users to write their own Sieve scripts, which
hopefully is a very rare practice.

** If you are using "inbox rules" in WebCit, your rules will be automatically
upgraded to the new system. **

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