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[#] Tue Apr 11 2017 13:36:49 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Sending and receiving

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Wed Mar 29 2017 07:10:54 PM EDT from tank100 @ Uncensored Subject: Sending and receiving

I can't seem to send or receive mail from external sources.  I have port forwarded port 25 and my isp claims that they have unblocked it; so any suggestions?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Test+remote+smtp+send



[#] Fri Apr 14 2017 10:01:17 EDT from 9lives @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Crash: cursor still in progress on cdb XX

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Hi,

had the same problem after database corruption and a failed attempt to easy-install/upgrade from 902 to 903.

Recovery with db_recover and database cleanup prevented citserver from crashing on startup but it always exited with "cursor still in progress on cdb 02".

So I downloaded the citserver source and compiled it against the easy-install libraries after commenting the cdb_abort line as shown below.

This article was helpful to set up the compilation environment:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall:homebrew

I then ran it from the compilation location with:
# ./citserver -h/usr/local/citadel

let it flush the fulltext index to disk and set a DB checkpoint:
citserver[968]: fulltext: flushing index cache to disk (100% complete)
citserver[968]: db: -- checkpoint --

CTRL+C to the foreground process and start the "normal" citserver process with the init script.

All data is still still available!

It was however necessary to restore some files (messages etc.) from the backup and reconfigure the server options, probably caused by the easy_install script
not fully recognizing the previous installation and overwriting them during the installation.

So far, no problems have occured *knock wood*

Thanks for the useful hint!

Regards,
9lives

Thu Dec 01 2016 09:03:15 EST from raidrroh @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Crash: cursor still in progress on cdb XX

Hallo,

some problem occured during my upgrade from 9.01 to 902.

I changed

static void bailIfCursor(DBC ** cursors, const char *msg)
{
    int i;

    for (i = 0; i < MAXCDB; i++)
        if (cursors[i] != NULL) {
            syslog(LOG_EMERG, "bdb(): cursor still in progress on cdb %02x: %s", i, msg);
            //cdb_abort(); generates error in cdb.02 during upgrade from 9.01 to 902 or 903
        }
}

in citadel/database.c and comiled a temporary citserver.

You should start this temporary citserver only once to cleanup the "open transaction problem" for cdb02. After this cleanup You should use the unchanged citserver (902 or 903).



 



[#] Tue Apr 18 2017 07:15:26 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Hello,

As I had posted few days ago, i am trying to setup a Citadel server to work as a relay of my email server (for both incoming and outgoing emails) with local delivery of emails in Citadel behind a DSL Line.

Test Citadel Server setup is OK.

However I am at a loss, cannot follow the instructions of the wiki.

Tried to follow these links:

  1. Regarding Relay http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:relay?s[]=relay
  2. and remote retrieval of emails http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve?s[]=remote&s[]=retrieval

But nothing happens..

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Evangelos

 



[#] Tue Apr 18 2017 09:53:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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vnaster, are you trying to configure Citadel to send all outbound email through an external relay, perhaps one that requires authentication?

I'm looking at that wiki page and realizing it's a little less than clear, and should be rewritten. Here's the summary:

You can use any of the following syntaxes as your smart-host (starting with Citadel Server version 907 or newer, since we now let libcurl do all the work:

123.456.789.012 (dotted quad IP address of your smart-host)
mail.relayer.com (domain name of your smart-host)
smtp://username:password@mail.relayer.com (smart host that you have to log in to)
smtp://username:password@mail.relayer.com:587 (smart host that you have to log in to, on a different port number)
smtps://username:password@mail.relayer.com (smart host with login and SSL)

Give that a try, and once we get it working we can work on the other direction.

[#] Tue Apr 18 2017 10:24:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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I've rewritten http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:relay to be a bit clearer and to match the options that are available in the latest Citadel Server.

[#] Tue Apr 18 2017 11:25:01 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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yay! Documentation rarely gets any love these days...

Tue Apr 18 2017 10:24:18 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
I've rewritten http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:relay to be a bit clearer and to match the options that are available in the latest Citadel Server.

 



[#] Tue Apr 18 2017 13:48:11 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Dear Ignatius,

With your help I was able to send a hello world email from test Citadel server, through remote SMTP, to my email client, using the 4th example.

However i wasn't able to have the test server working as yet and would like assistance in two more things and would appreciate a Good/Bad idea Opinion.

  1. The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?
  2. Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Thanks from all three of us, greatly appreciate this,

Vnaster

 

Tue Apr 18 2017 09:53:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
vnaster, are you trying to configure Citadel to send all outbound email through an external relay, perhaps one that requires authentication?

I'm looking at that wiki page and realizing it's a little less than clear, and should be rewritten. Here's the summary:

You can use any of the following syntaxes as your smart-host (starting with Citadel Server version 907 or newer, since we now let libcurl do all the work:

123.456.789.012 (dotted quad IP address of your smart-host)
mail.relayer.com (domain name of your smart-host)
smtp://username:password@mail.relayer.com (smart host that you have to log in to)
smtp://username:password@mail.relayer.com:587 (smart host that you have to log in to, on a different port number)
smtps://username:password@mail.relayer.com (smart host with login and SSL)

Give that a try, and once we get it working we can work on the other direction.

 



[#] Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



[#] Thu Apr 20 2017 07:25:30 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Many Thanks IGgnatius!

Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available, how is this possible?

You gave me a good lead i will try out what you have suggested. Scary as it may seem, to me as as accountant, I will try to host an email myself.

Possibly a custom MX record could do the trick and host not the primary emails, risking total oblivion, but a subdomain email.


By the way, I have noticed that my very very new test Citadel server has version 8.24 despite the fact that it was created three days ago..

REMARK/QUESTION: Don't we get the latest version of CITADEL by writing in Debian Terminal the following:

su

apt-get install citadel-mta

apt-get install citadel-suite

It there something in your repository probably that needs updating? Possibly wrong set of commands inputted?

I will check to see on your wiki to see how i update is made properly

Thanks again,

Vnaster

 

 

Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



 



[#] Thu Apr 20 2017 12:30:40 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Vnaster,

 

Often the best way to get the most current version is to use Easy Install method, rather than the packages in the repository. Often those packages in the repository are at the mercy of the time of those who have maintained them, and if I remember correctly, the Debian ones have not really been touched since 2015 at least.

 

IG could probably provide more info...

Thu Apr 20 2017 07:25:30 AM EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Many Thanks IGgnatius!

Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available, how is this possible?

You gave me a good lead i will try out what you have suggested. Scary as it may seem, to me as as accountant, I will try to host an email myself.

Possibly a custom MX record could do the trick and host not the primary emails, risking total oblivion, but a subdomain email.


By the way, I have noticed that my very very new test Citadel server has version 8.24 despite the fact that it was created three days ago..

REMARK/QUESTION: Don't we get the latest version of CITADEL by writing in Debian Terminal the following:

su

apt-get install citadel-mta

apt-get install citadel-suite

It there something in your repository probably that needs updating? Possibly wrong set of commands inputted?

I will check to see on your wiki to see how i update is made properly

Thanks again,

Vnaster

 

 

Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



 



 



[#] Thu Apr 20 2017 13:36:47 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

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Good afternoon, gents.

Just a note...the last couple of EasyInstall based updates/upgrades have clobbered my hello and goodbye files (as well as everything else).

This is a recent occurrence and one, I'm sure, is an unintended byproduct of something.

Can we fix it, though, prior to the next EasyInstall drop?

Thanks.



[#] Thu Apr 20 2017 15:07:19 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

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It probably happened with the upgrade of configs going into the database. 

Thu Apr 20 2017 01:36:47 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

Good afternoon, gents.

Just a note...the last couple of EasyInstall based updates/upgrades have clobbered my hello and goodbye files (as well as everything else).

This is a recent occurrence and one, I'm sure, is an unintended byproduct of something.

Can we fix it, though, prior to the next EasyInstall drop?

Thanks.



 



[#] Sat Apr 22 2017 04:02:13 EDT from "Dirk Heinrichs" <dirk.heinrichs@altum.de> to room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] [WebCit] Compose message broken?

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Am 06.04.2017 um 16:22 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs:

while I could post here using the web UI last week, it doesn't work
anymore. Tried with Konqueror and Chromium. See attached screenshot.

Just tried again, still doesn't work.

Bye...

Dirk

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[#] Sat Apr 22 2017 19:11:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available,
how is this possible?

I appreciate the offer, but we maintain Citadel simply for the love of the craft. There aren't even any expenses to cover because I have access to a data center.

If you are happy with Citadel, the best thing you can do for us is spread the word about it. We are one of the oldest open source projects in the world (founded in 1981!) but have never been as well-known as one would expect.

[#] Sat Apr 22 2017 19:11:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

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Just a note...the last couple of EasyInstall based updates/upgrades
have clobbered my hello and goodbye files (as well as everything
else).

It happens on my system too and is a nuisance. Will look into it.

[#] Sun Apr 23 2017 11:48:47 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

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Thank you :)

Sat Apr 22 2017 07:11:58 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents
Just a note...the last couple of EasyInstall based updates/upgrades
have clobbered my hello and goodbye files (as well as everything
else).

It happens on my system too and is a nuisance. Will look into it.

 



[#] Sun Apr 23 2017 15:51:55 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Dear Citadel Community,

Managed to install Citadel to the latest version on Trisquel (scraped Debian) following Easy-install instructions and not apt-get .

Also managed to download emails from remote POP3 using directions below.

However I still cannot understand some functions of Citadel after reading FAQ and would greatly appreciate further assistance.

REMARK/PROPOSAL: At the first try of Easyinstall, I was hitting my head against the wall, because I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it (had continuous errors) now working properly on my system. In the end I found your article referring to Debian/Ubuntu prerequisites and solved every problem. Perhaps you could move the Ubuntu/Debian prerequisites article on the FAQ Section since there are awful a lot of people using variants of these OS today.

QUESTION(1): How can we make a small donation to Citadel project?

QUESTION(2): Are there any scripts/rules like outlook for categorizing/moving emails between Rooms? I am asking because although remote POP3 download worked (see below) however it worked on a different folder than the default inbox folder (the one marked MAIL on My folders - POP3 download wouldn't work by no means in any version) on citadel. I was hoping to automatically move emails between rooms and avoid fragmented incoming emails which it is a recipe for Information Overload.

Thanks for everything

Vnaster

 

Thu Apr 20 2017 12:30:40 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Vnaster,

 

Often the best way to get the most current version is to use Easy Install method, rather than the packages in the repository. Often those packages in the repository are at the mercy of the time of those who have maintained them, and if I remember correctly, the Debian ones have not really been touched since 2015 at least.

 

IG could probably provide more info...

Thu Apr 20 2017 07:25:30 AM EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Many Thanks IGgnatius!

Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available, how is this possible?

You gave me a good lead i will try out what you have suggested. Scary as it may seem, to me as as accountant, I will try to host an email myself.

Possibly a custom MX record could do the trick and host not the primary emails, risking total oblivion, but a subdomain email.


By the way, I have noticed that my very very new test Citadel server has version 8.24 despite the fact that it was created three days ago..

REMARK/QUESTION: Don't we get the latest version of CITADEL by writing in Debian Terminal the following:

su

apt-get install citadel-mta

apt-get install citadel-suite

It there something in your repository probably that needs updating? Possibly wrong set of commands inputted?

I will check to see on your wiki to see how i update is made properly

Thanks again,

Vnaster

 

 

Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



 



 



 



[#] Sun Apr 23 2017 18:08:45 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Found this and seems really interesting:http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:everydayuse:sieve#createaddarule

Does this apply to sent items too?  We are trying to save sent emails per room.

I suggest you add this to the FAQ too including in the title the world rule, so that everyone understands that the all functionality is there

Thanks,

Sun Apr 23 2017 15:51:55 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Dear Citadel Community,

Managed to install Citadel to the latest version on Trisquel (scraped Debian) following Easy-install instructions and not apt-get .

Also managed to download emails from remote POP3 using directions below.

However I still cannot understand some functions of Citadel after reading FAQ and would greatly appreciate further assistance.

REMARK/PROPOSAL: At the first try of Easyinstall, I was hitting my head against the wall, because I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it (had continuous errors) now working properly on my system. In the end I found your article referring to Debian/Ubuntu prerequisites and solved every problem. Perhaps you could move the Ubuntu/Debian prerequisites article on the FAQ Section since there are awful a lot of people using variants of these OS today.

QUESTION(1): How can we make a small donation to Citadel project?

QUESTION(2): Are there any scripts/rules like outlook for categorizing/moving emails between Rooms? I am asking because although remote POP3 download worked (see below) however it worked on a different folder than the default inbox folder (the one marked MAIL on My folders - POP3 download wouldn't work by no means in any version) on citadel. I was hoping to automatically move emails between rooms and avoid fragmented incoming emails which it is a recipe for Information Overload.

Thanks for everything

Vnaster

 

Thu Apr 20 2017 12:30:40 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Vnaster,

 

Often the best way to get the most current version is to use Easy Install method, rather than the packages in the repository. Often those packages in the repository are at the mercy of the time of those who have maintained them, and if I remember correctly, the Debian ones have not really been touched since 2015 at least.

 

IG could probably provide more info...

Thu Apr 20 2017 07:25:30 AM EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Many Thanks IGgnatius!

Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available, how is this possible?

You gave me a good lead i will try out what you have suggested. Scary as it may seem, to me as as accountant, I will try to host an email myself.

Possibly a custom MX record could do the trick and host not the primary emails, risking total oblivion, but a subdomain email.


By the way, I have noticed that my very very new test Citadel server has version 8.24 despite the fact that it was created three days ago..

REMARK/QUESTION: Don't we get the latest version of CITADEL by writing in Debian Terminal the following:

su

apt-get install citadel-mta

apt-get install citadel-suite

It there something in your repository probably that needs updating? Possibly wrong set of commands inputted?

I will check to see on your wiki to see how i update is made properly

Thanks again,

Vnaster

 

 

Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



 



 



 



 



[#] Mon Apr 24 2017 11:31:37 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

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Please note that filters/rules did not work for incoming emails via remote POP3.

At least I couldn't make it work. Any idea if i am if doing something wrong?

Hopefully a remote POP3 email script could be written.

Any idea where to start from? How to try, and where to look?

A script example could come in handy.

Thank you,

Vnaster

Sun Apr 23 2017 18:08:45 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Found this and seems really interesting:http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:everydayuse:sieve#createaddarule

Does this apply to sent items too?  We are trying to save sent emails per room.

I suggest you add this to the FAQ too including in the title the world rule, so that everyone understands that the all functionality is there

Thanks,

Sun Apr 23 2017 15:51:55 EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Dear Citadel Community,

Managed to install Citadel to the latest version on Trisquel (scraped Debian) following Easy-install instructions and not apt-get .

Also managed to download emails from remote POP3 using directions below.

However I still cannot understand some functions of Citadel after reading FAQ and would greatly appreciate further assistance.

REMARK/PROPOSAL: At the first try of Easyinstall, I was hitting my head against the wall, because I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it (had continuous errors) now working properly on my system. In the end I found your article referring to Debian/Ubuntu prerequisites and solved every problem. Perhaps you could move the Ubuntu/Debian prerequisites article on the FAQ Section since there are awful a lot of people using variants of these OS today.

QUESTION(1): How can we make a small donation to Citadel project?

QUESTION(2): Are there any scripts/rules like outlook for categorizing/moving emails between Rooms? I am asking because although remote POP3 download worked (see below) however it worked on a different folder than the default inbox folder (the one marked MAIL on My folders - POP3 download wouldn't work by no means in any version) on citadel. I was hoping to automatically move emails between rooms and avoid fragmented incoming emails which it is a recipe for Information Overload.

Thanks for everything

Vnaster

 

Thu Apr 20 2017 12:30:40 EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Vnaster,

 

Often the best way to get the most current version is to use Easy Install method, rather than the packages in the repository. Often those packages in the repository are at the mercy of the time of those who have maintained them, and if I remember correctly, the Debian ones have not really been touched since 2015 at least.

 

IG could probably provide more info...

Thu Apr 20 2017 07:25:30 AM EDT from vnaster @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails

Many Thanks IGgnatius!

Can we make small donation to Citadel? Is there an IBAN available, how is this possible?

You gave me a good lead i will try out what you have suggested. Scary as it may seem, to me as as accountant, I will try to host an email myself.

Possibly a custom MX record could do the trick and host not the primary emails, risking total oblivion, but a subdomain email.


By the way, I have noticed that my very very new test Citadel server has version 8.24 despite the fact that it was created three days ago..

REMARK/QUESTION: Don't we get the latest version of CITADEL by writing in Debian Terminal the following:

su

apt-get install citadel-mta

apt-get install citadel-suite

It there something in your repository probably that needs updating? Possibly wrong set of commands inputted?

I will check to see on your wiki to see how i update is made properly

Thanks again,

Vnaster

 

 

Wed Apr 19 2017 12:54:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Server Relaying and Local delivery of Emails
The email had a From Field that was admin@citadel and thus couldn't be possibly replied to. Can this be fixed?  I tried  site-wide-configuration -> SMTP Servers -> Correct Forged From -> Only Change the From (...)  but no luck. Any idea how this is fixed?

Keep in mind that when you use a smart-host that requires authentication, very often the smart-host will rewrite the sender's email address to "what it's supposed to be".  Citadel itself will do this, if you use it as a smart-host.   Another example: if you use gmail as a smart-host, it'll rewrite the sender's email address, but not the display name.

If the message is going out from Citadel as "admin@citadel" then you need to set your fully-qualified domain name in the global system configuration, and then edit your account to have a proper email address in that domain.

 

Also any idea how I can receive and categorize emails in Citadel from remote POP3? Tried clicking Rooms -> Mail, then Advanced -> Edit (..) this Room -> Remote Retrieval, there i filled the host, user details, ect but no luck.. any idea how these details are filled properly?

You're in the correct place.  And the newest version of Citadel will try both POP3 and POP3S.  Maybe turn up your logging to "debug" and watch it try to fetch?

 

OPINION - Hosting Citadel on Raspberry pi: Good Idea (Easy to use for 10-emails-a-day , Scale-able, replaceable,) or Bad Idea (Potentially painfully slow and unworkable, SD card : doggy drive VS HDD ect, death trap ect.)

Lots of people do this.  It seems to work fine.  I'd suggest running it on a "real disk" (either HDD or SSD) rather than on an SD card, though.

 



 



 



 



 



 



[#] Mon Apr 24 2017 15:30:53 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents

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Sat Apr 22 2017 07:11:58 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Minor issue with EasyInstall overwriting messages directory contents
Just a note...the last couple of EasyInstall based updates/upgrades
have clobbered my hello and goodbye files (as well as everything
else).

It happens on my system too and is a nuisance. Will look into it. 

Gracias!



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