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[#] Wed Jun 01 2016 08:46:30 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored

Subject: Newer packages for Ubuntu?

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I realised I'm running a rather old version of Citadel, 8.24 whereas the sources are at 9.0.something..

Has anyone produced a .deb that I could use to upgrade my installation - if not, does someone happen to have a list of all the -dev packages I need to build the current version from source (and/or any other helpful build info for Ubuntu)?
 

Sampsa

 



[#] Wed Jun 01 2016 09:06:28 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

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Wed Jun 01 2016 08:23:20 EDTfrom kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Jabber configuration?

I'm running version 8.24 of Citadel (the one that is in the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS repo) but am having problems setting up Jabber.

First of all, there is no option (either in the text mode UI or web UI) for setting a Jabber server port (which I assume is used to talk to other Jabber servers).

This is because there is no such thing as a jabber server port in Citadel. One does not simply connect to another jabber server...

In Citadel, xmpp is only used to communicate with users on the citadel system. It is sadly not possible (yet) to communicate across servers.

If you want to do that, you need to set up a separate jabber daemon, turn off the one in citadel and use external user access (ldap, active directory or local system accounts).



[#] Wed Jun 01 2016 10:10:28 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

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Wed Jun 01 2016 09:06:28 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 08:23:20 EDTfrom kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Jabber configuration?

I'm running version 8.24 of Citadel (the one that is in the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS repo) but am having problems setting up Jabber.

First of all, there is no option (either in the text mode UI or web UI) for setting a Jabber server port (which I assume is used to talk to other Jabber servers).

This is because there is no such thing as a jabber server port in Citadel. One does not simply connect to another jabber server...

In Citadel, xmpp is only used to communicate with users on the citadel system. It is sadly not possible (yet) to communicate across servers.

If you want to do that, you need to set up a separate jabber daemon, turn off the one in citadel and use external user access (ldap, active directory or local system accounts).



Ah ok, thanks, the Web UI was a tad confusing - any idea why my client won't connect to the Jabber server over 5222/tcp though?

Sampsa

 



[#] Wed Jun 01 2016 10:23:39 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

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Wed Jun 01 2016 10:10:28 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 09:06:28 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 08:23:20 EDTfrom kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Jabber configuration?

I'm running version 8.24 of Citadel (the one that is in the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS repo) but am having problems setting up Jabber.

First of all, there is no option (either in the text mode UI or web UI) for setting a Jabber server port (which I assume is used to talk to other Jabber servers).

This is because there is no such thing as a jabber server port in Citadel. One does not simply connect to another jabber server...

In Citadel, xmpp is only used to communicate with users on the citadel system. It is sadly not possible (yet) to communicate across servers.

If you want to do that, you need to set up a separate jabber daemon, turn off the one in citadel and use external user access (ldap, active directory or local system accounts).



Ah ok, thanks, the Web UI was a tad confusing - any idea why my client won't connect to the Jabber server over 5222/tcp though?

Sampsa

 



 

How odd - it took a while to connect over iMessage but it did connect. 

Probably some weird problem between libPurple (same as Pidgin, Adium is basically just a COCOA OS X skin for it) and Citadel.

Well it works in any case now.

 



[#] Wed Jun 01 2016 10:34:45 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

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Wed Jun 01 2016 10:23:39 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 10:10:28 EDT from kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 09:06:28 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Jabber configuration?

 

Wed Jun 01 2016 08:23:20 EDTfrom kermit @ Uncensored Subject: Jabber configuration?

I'm running version 8.24 of Citadel (the one that is in the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS repo) but am having problems setting up Jabber.

First of all, there is no option (either in the text mode UI or web UI) for setting a Jabber server port (which I assume is used to talk to other Jabber servers).

This is because there is no such thing as a jabber server port in Citadel. One does not simply connect to another jabber server...

In Citadel, xmpp is only used to communicate with users on the citadel system. It is sadly not possible (yet) to communicate across servers.

If you want to do that, you need to set up a separate jabber daemon, turn off the one in citadel and use external user access (ldap, active directory or local system accounts).



Ah ok, thanks, the Web UI was a tad confusing - any idea why my client won't connect to the Jabber server over 5222/tcp though?

Sampsa

 



 

How odd - it took a while to connect over iMessage but it did connect. 

Probably some weird problem between libPurple (same as Pidgin, Adium is basically just a COCOA OS X skin for it) and Citadel.

Well it works in any case now.

 



Actually I spoke too early - the client connects but shows the other user as Offline even though it's possible to send messages between them..

Anyone know if the Jabber code has changed significantly between version 8 and 9? 



[#] Thu Jun 02 2016 02:57:13 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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iirc, there was some improvement, I might even remember IG fixing an annoying bug, but I am not sure.

In any case, xmpp always had some issues. There is a guide on how to configure pidgin, try to replicate that in adium.



[#] Thu Jun 02 2016 14:23:10 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Outbound email address?

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I've got a weird problem with my Citadel install - outbound email
works perfectly well, but it uses the node name instead of the FQDN?

Any idea how I get it to use the actual FQDN - I've looked through
the FAQ/knowledgebase, checked pretty much every option but I can't
figure this out?

First, make sure that you've gone into the Administration menu then to the Domain names and Internet mail configuration submenu. In the Local host aliases section, make sure you've added any/all domains and/or FQDNs for which you want to receive mail.

Then, in your user, go to the Advanced menu and select "Update your contact information". At teh bottom, enter your primary internet email address and any additional email addresses.

Lastly, go back to the Advanced menu and Preferences and Settings submenu and select your Preferred email address.

Now, any email you send should come from user@fqdn.

[#] Sat Jun 04 2016 09:17:12 EDT from hagar @ Uncensored

Subject: pop3 collector esnds back to Return path as well

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I am trying to use citadel as a pop3 collector.

But when downloading certain emails from the pop3 site it stalls on certain emails.

It cant send to the Return-path so it registers as failed. It then keeps the email on the original server.

Upon investigation it seems to be doing this for all emails.

I have tried this with fetchmail, mpop and citadels pop3 collector - same results - citadel keeps double sending all emails.

 

Thanks

Hagar



[#] Sun Jun 05 2016 08:47:33 EDT from spooker @ Uncensored

Subject: The Citadel server process (citserver) terminated unexpectedly

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Hi I am running Citadel 8.24 with WebCit 8.24, server build 8.24 on fresh installation using a Raspberry pi on Jessie.

I have configured everything and everything works. The only thing I have noticed is that on every stop of the service (sudo service citadel stop)

I get an email

The Citadel server process (citserver) terminated unexpectedly.
 
 This could be the result of a bug in the server program, or some external
factor.
 
 You can obtain more information about this by enabling core dumps.
 
 For more information, please see:
 
 http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#how.do.i.make.my.system.produce.core-files
 
 If you have already done this, the core dump is likely to be found at /var/run/citadel/core.478
 
I have enabled ulimit on /etc/init.d/citadel
but no core files are generated under /var/run/citadel/ 
Any clues as to what this is and how can I get more information? 


[#] Sun Jun 05 2016 13:43:38 EDT from spooker @ Uncensored

Subject: The Citadel server process (citserver) terminated unexpectedly

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Hi I am running Citadel 8.24 with WebCit 8.24, server build 8.24 on fresh installation using a Raspberry pi on Jessie.

I have configured everything and everything works. The only thing I have noticed is that on every stop of the service (sudo service citadel stop)

I get an email

The Citadel server process (citserver) terminated unexpectedly.
 
 This could be the result of a bug in the server program, or some external
factor.
 
 You can obtain more information about this by enabling core dumps.
 
 For more information, please see:
 
 http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#how.do.i.make.my.system.produce.core-files
 
 If you have already done this, the core dump is likely to be found at /var/run/citadel/core.478
 
I have enabled ulimit on /etc/init.d/citadel
but no core files are generated under /var/run/citadel/ 
Any clues as to what this is and how can I get more information? 


[#] Mon Jun 06 2016 00:24:39 EDT from hagar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: pop3 collector esnds back to Return path as well

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I have solved this by having to use mpop and msmtp

I found that fetchmail did not work as too sendmail and citmail did not give me as much control.

neither did the internal pop3 collector.

 

My .mpoprc is -

 

defaults
tls on
tls_trust_file /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
tls_starttls off
 
account mypopaccount
host mypopmailserver
user mypopusername
password mypoppassword
delivery mda /usr/bin/msmtp --dsn-notify=off --dsn-return=off --host=localhost --from='%F' -- mylocalusername

 


[#] Tue Jun 07 2016 11:04:44 EDT from jiacovelli @ Uncensored

Subject: Question/Request for Referral re Data Recovery

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We had a mail server crash (citadel 8.23). We've restored the server from a very old backup. We're trying to determine whether the mail that was processed between the time of the backup and the crash still exists in the "bad" cdb.## files we copied off the server before restoration from the backup. Below is a summary of events and the steps we took to examine the files. If that data still exists, we're looking either for suggestions on restoring or exporting that data ourselves, or for a referral to someone we can pay to do the work. Thanks.

  • The crash: it appears the /tmp partition had a fault and was mounted read only at a point that one of the big cdb files was written; our cdb.08 file is 29GB, as listed below.
  • The immediate effect was that our cdb.00, 01, 04, 05, 06 and 07 files appear to have been truncated to 8K; cdb.02 and 03 to 16K.
  • Unfortunately, and to our shame, after physically moving the server approximately a year ago, the nightly rsync backups were no longer maintained.
  • As mentioned, we restored from those backups from a year ago.
  • The old backups function fine, but we are attempting to recover, if possible the mail since then.
  • We have rsync'd out the "bad" data directory and worked on it.
  • We can place the backup set's cdb.00 thru 07 in place on another server, then copy the later version of cdb.08 up, then using citadel and the bdb utilities, we can:
  1. Do a successful db_dump... but not a db_recover (error states that the records are encrypted, but we assume it's actually stumbling on the compresssion.
  2. Do a successful db_stat on cdb.08. (below)
  3. Successfully load citadel, with all users and emails up to a year ago visible.
 
Notes: output of the dump, stats and various file listings appear below.
 
  (snapshot of the state of the original "bad" files)
 
    >ls -lh
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 18:20 cdb.00
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 31 08:50 cdb.01
    -rw-------    1 root     root       16.0K May 31 08:50 cdb.02
    -rw-------    1 root     root       16.0K May 31 08:50 cdb.03
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 18:20 cdb.04
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 31 08:50 cdb.05
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 17:34 cdb.06
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 17:34 cdb.07
    -rw-------    1 root     root       28.9G May 31 09:58 cdb.08
    -rw-------    1 root     root      590.8M May 30 18:46 cdb.09
    -rw-------    1 root     root        2.8M May 30 17:55 cdb.0a
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 18:20 cdb.0b
    -rw-------    1 root     root        8.0K May 30 17:56 cdb.0c
    -rw-------    1 root     root       10.0M Aug 23  2015 log.0000030964
    -rw-------    1 root     root       10.0M Aug 29  2015 log.0000031446
    -rw-------    1 root     root       10.0M May 31 08:50 log.0000056197
 
 
    (below: runs after deleting the first two log files in that list; dbd utils added to PATH)
 
    >/data/ctdlsupport/bin/db_recover -c -f -v
    BDB2526 Finding last valid log LSN: file: 56198 offset 7936312
    recovery 33% completeBDB1514 Recovery starting from [56198][28]
    recovery 100% completeBDB1518 Recovery complete at Fri Jun  3 11:12:48 2016
    BDB1519 Maximum transaction ID 80000034 recovery checkpoint [56198][7936312]
 
    (below: dbstat of the big cdb file)
 
   >/data/ctdlsupport/bin/db_stat -d  cdb.08
    Sun Jun  5 12:19:14 2016        Local time
    53162   Btree magic number
    9       Btree version number
    Little-endian   Byte order
            Flags
    2       Minimum keys per-page
    4096    Underlying database page size
    1007    Overflow key/data size
    3       Number of levels in the tree
    464039  Number of unique keys in the tree
    464039  Number of data items in the tree
    33      Number of tree internal pages
    48866   Number of bytes free in tree internal pages (63% ff)
    4722    Number of tree leaf pages
    6225448 Number of bytes free in tree leaf pages (67% ff)
    0       Number of tree duplicate pages
    0       Number of bytes free in tree duplicate pages (0% ff)
    7559764 Number of tree overflow pages
    956M    Number of bytes free in tree overflow pages (96% ff)
    0       Number of empty pages
    7979    Number of pages on the free list
 
 
    (below: listing of the dump files created with db_dump)
 
    >ls -lh citadel_restore
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      344.2M Jun  2 09:43 cdb.00dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       17.0K Jun  2 09:43 cdb.01dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      239.7K Jun  2 09:43 cdb.02dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        8.7K Jun  2 09:43 cdb.03dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        5.6M Jun  2 09:43 cdb.04dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      249.1K Jun  2 09:43 cdb.05dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        9.4K Jun  2 09:43 cdb.06dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          58 Jun  2 09:43 cdb.07dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       55.6G Jun  2 12:20 cdb.08dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      942.0M Jun  2 12:24 cdb.09dump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      904.9K Jun  2 12:24 cdb.0adump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        3.0K Jun  2 12:24 cdb.0bdump
    -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          58 Jun  2 12:24 cdb.0cdump
    -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        1.5K Jun  2 09:40 dumpit.sh



[#] Sun Jun 12 2016 05:13:25 EDT from andr3sito @ Uncensored

Subject: Version 9.02 for raspbian

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Does anyone know when the raspbian repositories will be updated to serve the newest version of Citadel? (9.02)



[#] Tue Jun 14 2016 09:14:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Version 9.02 for raspbian

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Raspbian repositories are updated automatically from the Debian repositories.
Debian packages are maintained by dothebart, so he can probably answer that better. Citadel is also moving to a rolling release cycle, so I don't know what that implies for Debian packages.

[#] Tue Jun 14 2016 12:09:40 EDT from boli @ Uncensored

Subject: Aliases seem to not be working anymore

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Hello Citadel Support,

I used to be able to add aliases to email accounts by adding them in the user vCard through webcit. I don't know what happened but now when I try to edit the list of aliases it simply doesnt get updated (when I go back, the new alias is not there).

Can you give me any pointers how can I debug this and what may be happening? I'm using debian jessie.

Thanks!



[#] Tue Jun 14 2016 20:21:38 EDT from pansophy @ Uncensored

Subject: Task List in 'Summary' View

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Hello Citadel & Folks! I'm new to Citadel but like what I see and can do with it. I have two questions, though:

1) the Summary view does not show my tasks I created, even if I assign them a due date

2) my created Notes under Citadel 8.24 with WebCit 8.24, server build 8.24 show '+' instead of 'SPACE'

What do I do wrong? Also, does the new build support CalDAV ?

Thanks!



[#] Wed Jun 15 2016 10:22:04 EDT from sndavis1 @ Uncensored

Subject: creating a global contacts list

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WHen I add new mail users, I want their names to show up the the contacts list. This way their names can be easily entered into the To: field when sending email.

How do I bulk add users into the contacts list?

 

Thank you



[#] Wed Jun 15 2016 15:58:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: creating a global contacts list

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How do I bulk add users into the contacts list?

Enter them into the "Global Address Book" room.

[#] Thu Jun 16 2016 01:15:32 EDT from pansophy @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Task List in 'Summary' View

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Tue Jun 14 2016 20:21:38 EDT from pansophy @ Uncensored Subject: Task List in 'Summary' View
 
Also, does the new build support CalDAV ?


To answer one of my own questions: Even the older 8.x Version supports CalDAV in a way. Under Mozilla Thunderbird with Lightning extension, all works well. It is important to add the trailing '/' to the Room names, though. And add them as 'iCal' File.

Rainlendar does a good job as well.


e.g.:

https://your.citadel.server/groupdav/Calendar/

https://your.citadel.server/groupdav/Tasks/

https://your.citadel.server/groupdav/Roomxyz/

 

Hope that helps somebody in the future. ;)



[#] Thu Jun 16 2016 11:32:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Task List in 'Summary' View

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That's correct; it supports a standard "icalendar" format (which basically syncs the whole calendar at once, rather than one item at a time). It works fine with Thunderbird/Lightning. We are in the process of a major overhaul of WebCit which is fundamentally built on a DAV/REST design and will support the full CalDAV/CardDAV protocols, but a finished release is some time away.

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