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[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 07:37:57 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 isalready bound.. but it isn't

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yes, i have permission. the server has been working correctly for over a year previous to this issue.

after running your netstat command, i see that webcit IS running.. however.. if i kill it and then start it again, i still see the same status that shows webcit failed and i still can't use it.

so basically, i issue: service webcit start

and the result is that webcit runs AND shows 'failed' in it's status output.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 07:46:29 EST from "Panagiotis Palias" <panagos81@gmail.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000isalready bound.. but it isn't

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Better don't kill the process, rather issue the "service webcit restart" to make sure that no leftovers are left and a clean stop is performed.

Στις 21 Δεκ 2015 13:38, ο χρήστης "urasoul" <urasoul@uncensored.citadel.org> έγραψε:

yes, i have permission. the server has been working correctly for over a year previous to this issue.

after running your netstat command, i see that webcit IS running.. however.. if i kill it and then start it again, i still see the same status that shows webcit failed and i still can't use it.

so basically, i issue: service webcit start

and the result is that webcit runs AND shows 'failed' in it's status output.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:17:51 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000isalready bound.. but it isn't

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i killed the process because it appeared to be a zombie.. or at least it is unresponsive and not behaving as intended. in any case, restarting, killing, stopping and starting are making no difference at all here.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:18:29 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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hm, sounds like you should run database_cleanup.sh ;

Webcit is stateless, but without citserver it can only show you the message that citserver is away.

You need to fix the database issue; most probably database_cleanup.sh can do that for you.

ps: keep a backup - have a look at: http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.lhfs.rpm.deb.installs.put.them



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:34:36 EST from steveE @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel suite on Android....

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I'm trying to compile citadel suite on Android and, admittedly, I'm a dummy.

Can anyone walk me through the process ??



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:40:49 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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ok, well - the /var/lib/citadel/data/ folder is 55GB and i only have 100GB on the server!

the 55GB mostly appeared overnight, since yesterday - so obviously i don't need most of it. is there a way to clean that folder out before backing up?



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:44:38 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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most probably you have lots of logfiles because of unsuccessfull attempts to open the database?

you will need at least the space for the cdb* files extra, since thats where the dump from database_cleanup is going.

regarding a backup you will probably be able to compress stuff pretty well since it should be mostly ascii - so at least 1/8th should be possible.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:45:16 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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oh, and if its systemd, tell it to stop citserver, so it doesn't reattempt to start it over and over again.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:47:58 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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there are lots of 10MB log files in there, yes. is there any problem with just deleting them all?



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:48:44 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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you may also try to run

db5.3_recover (or without 5.3 in its name depending on your distro)

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17275_01/html/programmer_reference/transapp_archival.html

may help getting rid of unneccesary logfiles.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:50:49 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I'm afraid deleting logfiles may harm your current database integrity. the tools will need them to tell howto continue.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:53:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel suite on Android....

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since citadel is a server software, android is most probably not the desired target audience. Use a regular linux distro on your hardware, and use i.e. debian.org pre-compiled .debs.

If you want the client side on android, install stuff like the ssh client.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gnuroot.debian may help you to compile locally if you want to do it anyways.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 08:57:13 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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F20 does use systemD, yes - but there is no citserver service listed. do you mean the citadel service?

thanks for the oracle link - i am reading through it. i do notice that the recover function that you mentioned is not explicitly named on that page anywhere.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 09:11:21 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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oh, i can see citserver running as a process - but the command: service citserver stop - results in:

Redirecting to /bin/systemctl stop  citserver.service
Failed to issue method call: Unit citserver.service not loaded.



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 09:55:28 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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so i have backed up the data (i think) and now have come to run database_cleanup.sh. however, i have searched the entire filesystem and there is no file with that name present. i have looked in the paths that are output by: whereis citadel

and the script is not in there. what am i missing!?



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 10:19:05 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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running: db_recover -v

only produced:
BDB2526 Finding last valid log LSN: file: 1 offset 28

and made no obvious change to the data folder



[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 12:09:17 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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which installation method did you choose? rpm or easy install?

this is the raw script:  http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob_plain;f=citadel/database_cleanup.sh.in;hb=HEAD

You need to replace

@MAKE_DATA_DIR@

and possibly specify the db_* util name. See the debian version which should be similar to a rpm version.


database_cleanup.sh (application/x-shellscript, 4273 bytes) [ View | Download ]
[#] Mon Dec 21 2015 12:57:55 EST from urasoul @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

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thanks - it was a long time ago that i installed citadel, so i'm not 100% sure how i did it now.

i ran the script and followed it's advice to run the command: cd /var/lib/citadel/data; /usr/bin/db_recover -c
and the terminal stream got stuck, with no output.

i am not able to run the cleanup process because the stated hard drive space that is needed is over 50GB, which i do not have available. :(

 

Mon Dec 21 2015 12:09:17 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: webcit cannot start - says port 2000 is already bound.. but it isn't

which installation method did you choose? rpm or easy install?

this is the raw script:  http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob_plain;f=citadel/database_cleanup.sh.in;hb=HEAD

You need to replace

@MAKE_DATA_DIR@

and possibly specify the db_* util name. See the debian version which should be similar to a rpm version.


 



database_cleanup.sh (application/x-shellscript, 4273 bytes) [ View | Download ]
[#] Tue Dec 22 2015 13:02:30 EST from warbaby @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Maximum attachment size?

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1) Log into webcit with an Admin account

2) Click Administration > Edit site-wide configuration > Settings

3) Edit 'Maximum Message Length' to the size you'd like (in bytes). 

You can use one of the online megabytes to bytes converters to find the number of bytes for a specific number of megs. 

 

Sat Dec 19 2015 11:35:27 PM EST from toysareforboys @ Uncensored Subject: Maximum attachment size?

What is the maximum attachment size for Citadel? How do I increase it?

 

-Jamie M.



 



[#] Tue Dec 22 2015 13:31:21 EST from Ramzu @ Uncensored

Subject: how do i get to WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network"

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 Can someone please tell me how do i get to WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network" as it says in the message i get when trying to install and run Citadel? I want to remove some services that i do not need that are trying to access ports in use by other programs. Thank you all in advance



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