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[#] Mon Jul 02 2012 10:38:22 EDT from "Andreas Schneider" <andreas.schneider@aksdb.de> to Citadel Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Retrieving external mail

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Hello,

I may have send this message to the wrong room before, so here I go
again:

I'm currently trying to setup external mail retrieval for some of my
users. The internal fetch-mail of Citadel doesn't quite fit our needs,
since it doesn't post-process messages (filter and spam check) and it
is pop3 only.

My next choice was getmail and fetchmail. Unfortunately, I can't
figure out how to correctly use them with Citadel. Configuring the
source is not the problem, but I don't know what the correct target
is. Since Citadel stores emails in an internal DB I don't have a
maildir to put mails into. I also wasn't able to find Citadel's MDA to
deliver local mails ... i.e. the procmail equivalent of Citadel.

Can someone give me a few hints on how to configure getmail or
fetchmail to correctly deliver (fetched) mails to a specific room of a
specific Citadel user?

Thanks!

--
Best Regards,
Andreas

[#] Mon Jul 02 2012 10:49:42 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Retrieving external mail

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have a look at these faqs:

http://citadel.org/doku.php?do=search&id=fetchmail

please let us know what didn't fit your needs there, if you have stuff to add, feedback is welcome.

generaly speaking *mailretriever*->lmtp->citserver is the way to go.



[#] Mon Jul 02 2012 12:11:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Retrieving external mail

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Yes, that -- what dothebart said. Read the fetchmail docs regarding delivery via LMTP, and know that Citadel offers two LMTP sockets (one filtered and one unfiltered) for you to use in that capacity. The configuration should be relatively straightforward.

[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 07:29:27 EDT from "Andreas Schneider" <andreas.schneider@aksdb.de> to Citadel Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Retrieving external mail

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On Monday, July 2, 2012, at 18:11 IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
Yes, that -- what dothebart said. Read the fetchmail docs regarding delivery
via LMTP, and know that Citadel offers two LMTP sockets (one filtered and
one unfiltered) for you to use in that capacity. The configuration should
be relatively straightforward.

Indeed that seems to be what I was looking for. I don't know why I
didn't see that part of the FAQ before ... now I kinda hate myself for
asking something that was already answered before :-/

In that regard: thanks for your answer and the patience ;-)

Btw.: are there plans (or already an option?) to have Webcit's "Remote
Retrieval" pre/post-process mails (i.e. spam check and filter them)?

Oh and also: thanks for developing and supporting such a great product
.... Citadel is really a charm to use and lightweight at that!! :-)

--
Best Regards,
Andreas

[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 07:47:10 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Retrieving external mail

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Tue Jul 03 2012 07:29:27 EDTfrom "Andreas Schneider" <andreas.schneider@aksdb.de> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Retrieving external mail
On Monday, July 2, 2012, at 18:11 IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
Yes, that -- what dothebart said. Read the fetchmail docs regarding delivery
via LMTP, and know that Citadel offers two LMTP sockets (one filtered and
one unfiltered) for you to use in that capacity. The configuration should
be relatively straightforward.

Indeed that seems to be what I was looking for. I don't know why I
didn't see that part of the FAQ before ... now I kinda hate myself for
asking something that was already answered before :-/

In that regard: thanks for your answer and the patience ;-)

Btw.: are there plans (or already an option?) to have Webcit's "Remote
Retrieval" pre/post-process mails (i.e. spam check and filter them)?
 
hm, interesting idea. Maybe while implementing TLS and imap aggregation this might be an option to add.


Oh and also: thanks for developing and supporting such a great product
.... Citadel is really a charm to use and lightweight at that!! :-)


--
Best Regards,
Andreas

tnx, nice to hear ;-)



[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 12:24:44 EDT from "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: 'Too many open files' errors after upgrade to 8.11-2 on Debian

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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:40 AM, dothebart
<dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Fri Jun 22 2012 20:45:55 EDTfrom "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:06 AM, dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
current GIT Master contains several changes to the citadel networking
module.

can you retest with it whether this fixes your problems?
You need to upgrade libcitadle too;

I just did a 'git pull' on the clone I originally did awhile ago;
commit bcbaf2800c778043c12f9fd2d719ca9271ac6cb4 is showing as the
most recent. Build with that? ....

yes, this version hopefully shouldn't loose fds anymore; plus messages
should go out quicker.

I was able to do a package build of libcitadel but ended up with
failures attempting to build citadel itself. Found that 8.12-1 had
been put online at the citadel.org repo, so since I needed Citadel
working again I went ahead and installed that instead. That has
resolved the 'Too many open files' issue.



--
Robert J. Clay
rjclay@gmail.com

[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 13:47:48 EDT from "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Building from the Citadel git repository

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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:40 AM, dothebart
<dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:


Fri Jun 22 2012 20:45:55 EDTfrom "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: 'Too many open files' errors after
upgrade to 8.11-2 on Debian
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:06 AM, dothebart
<dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:

Thu Jun 21 2012 02:31:09 EDTfrom "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com>

So, build libcitadel, install libcitadel-dev; then build the
versions of webcit & citadel? (Although you didn't actually say that
I need to do webcit as well...).


right, since there aren't any changes to webcit recently its unimportant
whether you replace it or not.



heres howto compile the debs:

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:debian#tobuildfromsource

That doesn't seem very helpful to me for building from the git
repository... Perhaps it could use another section?

Note that I am used to doing a source build from a git repo using
git-buildpackage, then using pbuilder for a binary build...


I don't know about git-buildpackage. If you succeed using it, share how to
do it; we'll add it to the wiki.

I'm not familiar with how to handle multiple debian directories in
the same branch with git-buildpackage (presuming it's possible), as
the current layout in the git repository has it (left over, perhaps,
from the old svn repository?) and I didn't have time to try separating
libcitadel, citadel, & webcit into their own branches or repositories.

I created a local branch to work in, then used git-dch to create
snapshot changelog entries (8.11+1e6264-1) for citadel & libcitadel.
Then used debuild to create a source build of libcitadel and then
pbuilder for the 64 bit build. Put the results of that into my local
package repo so that my pbuilder setup could find it. No problem
doing a source build of citadel but the binary build failed
('undefined reference' errors), so I ended up using the 8.12-1 debian
package made available at the citadel.org site.





--
Robert J. Clay
rjclay@gmail.com
jame@rocasa.us

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[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 15:49:55 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Building from the Citadel git repository

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well, then git-buildpackage doesn't like our repository layout... we lived without for quiet a while now ;-) so we will survive more, since a simple dpkg-buildpackage for each directory simply does the job.



[#] Tue Jul 03 2012 22:33:54 EDT from "Robert J. Clay" <rjclay@gmail.com> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Building from the Citadel git repository

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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, dothebart
<dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
well, then git-buildpackage doesn't like our repository layout...

I still wonder, btw, since the version numbers are apparently
being kept in sync; why the separate debian directories are even
being kept...

we lived
without for quiet a while now ;-) so we will survive more, since a simple
dpkg-buildpackage for each directory simply does the job.

<shrug> I like using the available tools and I like being able to
build a debian package (including the orig archive ) directly from a
git repo. I'd like to take a look at easier (for me. at least) ways
of building the Citadel packages, in case I need to try it again.
When I can do so and if I'm successful at it, I'll post about it.




--
Robert J. Clay
rjclay@gmail.com

[#] Wed Jul 04 2012 02:58:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Building from the Citadel git repository

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we have the buildpackages shellcripts for that; it creates the tarballs for the distribution with the version number in the directoryname, or it also can wrap dpkg-buildpackage.

so, basicaly, we have a tool which is _that_ simple ;-)

just call it ./buildpackage debian

and it bootstraps, sets directory symlinks, changes to these symlinks, and builds the package.

the debian/ directories are kept around for our debian/ubuntu repo, which can serve you like backports when the upstream distribution is frozen/stable and doesn't accept updates anymore.

I use them for my personal development system to configure citadel to work in lhfs-mode.



[#] Wed Jul 04 2012 05:39:23 EDT from nitinkadam @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel server din't start

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hi,

I am new to linus and citadel.

I have installed ubuntu 12.04 server , then used apt-get to install citadel, the message says " setup is finished, but the Citadel server failed to start. go back and check your configuration"

how to I proceed to start the citadel server???

If I try to login through firefox browser "This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.Read More..." error message...

pl help

 



[#] Wed Jul 04 2012 10:30:08 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel server din't start

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[#] Thu Jul 05 2012 09:20:33 EDT from SergeantPony @ R.F.Ringer Computers

Subject: are we linked?

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Strange.. no messages since June 14th??

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[#] Thu Jul 05 2012 11:39:54 EDT from severgun @ Uncensored

Subject: LDAP Auth.

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What am I doing wrong?

I have installed slapd in Debian.

I create user by ldif:

dn: uid=test, dc=localserver

cn: test

gidNumber: 1000

homeDirectory: /home/test

objectClass: top

objectClass: account

objectClass: posixAccount

uid: test

uidNumber: 1000

 

Install password for test user.

All like in RFC2307 example. Also I did dpkg-reconfigure citadel-server and configure it to use LDAP Auth.

IP 127.0.0.1

Port 389

Base DN: dc=localserver

Bind DN: (clear)

Password: (clear)

 

So I still can't login with "test".

Where I can see debug info about citadel-ldap interaction?

Also is there any plans of optimisation web interface? It is not usable with mobile browsers at all. And ugly a little bit.



[#] Fri Jul 06 2012 08:22:33 EDT from severgun @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: LDAP Auth.

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Thu Jul 05 2012 11:39:54 EDT from severgun @ Uncensored Subject: LDAP Auth.

What am I doing wrong?

I have installed slapd in Debian.

I create user by ldif:

dn: uid=test, dc=localserver

cn: test

gidNumber: 1000

homeDirectory: /home/test

objectClass: top

objectClass: account

objectClass: posixAccount

uid: test

uidNumber: 1000

 

Install password for test user.

All like in RFC2307 example. Also I did dpkg-reconfigure citadel-server and configure it to use LDAP Auth.

IP 127.0.0.1

Port 389

Base DN: dc=localserver

Bind DN: (clear)

Password: (clear)

 

So I still can't login with "test".

Where I can see debug info about citadel-ldap interaction?

Also is there any plans of optimisation web interface? It is not usable with mobile browsers at all. And ugly a little bit.



I fix this by selecting Auth mode LDAP RFC2307 in web interface.

But now I can't login with admin user.



[#] Fri Jul 06 2012 08:53:04 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: LDAP Auth.

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Fri Jul 06 2012 08:22:33 EDT from severgun @ Uncensored Subject: Re: LDAP Auth.

 

Thu Jul 05 2012 11:39:54

I fix this by selecting Auth mode LDAP RFC2307 in web interface.

But now I can't login with admin user.

use setup to choose the aide user; next time you log in as this user he will get aide rights.



[#] Fri Jul 06 2012 11:24:29 EDT from severgun @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: LDAP Auth.

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use setup to choose the aide user; next time you log in as this user he will get aide rights.



Thx. Will try.

 

Can anybody explain, why citadel not always resolve short host name in address?

For example:

Server hostname: mailserver

FQDN: mailserver.local.net

 

If I'm trying to send mail from "citadeluser_1" to "citadeluser". All works normal.

If I'm using "citadeluser@mailserver.local.net" All works normal too.

But if I'm trying to send to "citadeluser@mailserver" sometimes it sends normally but more often it says: "Invalid recepient"



[#] Fri Jul 06 2012 14:18:57 EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: LDAP, but compiled without LDAP -- revert settings?

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I just changed the user-auth settings in webcit to ldap, because I
recently configured an ldap-server to handle my authentications. But as
I tried to start citadel, it said it wasn't compiled with ldap-support.

Not I can't start it anymore! Can you adjust the settings while citadel
is not running?

kind regards,
Henning

[#] Fri Jul 06 2012 16:24:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: LDAP, but compiled without LDAP -- revert settings?

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Not I can't start it anymore! Can you adjust the settings while citadel

is not running?

Yes, you can run the setup program again and specify a different auth mode.

[#] Sat Jul 07 2012 05:08:05 EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: LDAP, but compiled without LDAP -- revert settings?

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Via easy-install as well? I found /usr/local/citadel/setup, but it
want's the citserver running...

On 06.07.2012 22:24, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
Not I can't start it anymore! Can you adjust the settings while citadel

is not running?

Yes, you can run the setup program again and specify a different auth mode.

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