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[#] Wed Jun 06 2012 05:57:16 PM EDT from s3cr3to @ Uncensored

Subject: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

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In Citadel 7.86 with WebCit 7.86, server build c08adcea52e85d6139ad158c17eb3d1941df2eb5

I'm looking for set this:

  • for POP users, make that Citadel clean their "Sent Items" every N-days
  • for some users (Pop/Imap), I need protect their "Mail(Inbox)" so the autopurge or them DON'T delete messages in the inbox, those mails need to be stored for ages.

For the first point, I can't find or don't know if is possible to configure Citadel to accomplish it.

For the second point, I wonder if my only solution is to forward every mail to another room. ¿BUT Citadel will duplicate every mail or just do a reference to each mail without waste disk space? This mailbox is used to receive invoices; so my intention is to protect every invoice received for many years to come. And I'm afraid that autopurge will affect the backup room/account.

Regards



[#] Wed Jun 06 2012 07:56:28 PM EDT from norbus @ Uncensored

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Ygorl -- Are you still a room topic Nazi?

[#] Thu Jun 07 2012 04:33:08 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

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Wed Jun 06 2012 17:57:16 EDT from s3cr3to @ Uncensored Subject: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

In Citadel 7.86 with WebCit 7.86, server build c08adcea52e85d6139ad158c17eb3d1941df2eb5

I'm looking for set this:

  • for POP users, make that Citadel clean their "Sent Items" every N-days
  • for some users (Pop/Imap), I need protect their "Mail(Inbox)" so the autopurge or them DON'T delete messages in the inbox, those mails need to be stored for ages.

For the first point, I can't find or don't know if is possible to configure Citadel to accomplish it.

For the second point, I wonder if my only solution is to forward every mail to another room. ¿BUT Citadel will duplicate every mail or just do a reference to each mail without waste disk space? This mailbox is used to receive invoices; so my intention is to protect every invoice received for many years to come. And I'm afraid that autopurge will affect the backup room/account.

Regards



well, the first is only possible individualy per user / room

then the second won't appear anyways.

a copy of the mail when done the smart way won't change disk usage. citadel knows howto have several references to the same mail.



[#] Thu Jun 07 2012 01:06:55 PM EDT from Will94 @ Uncensored

Subject: SSL over port 2000?

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I've just discovered Citadel and setup my first server.  I would like to know if I can implement SSL over port 2000 instead of 443?  If this is answered in an FAQ somewhere, a URL would be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance!

Will N.

Bryan, Texas  USA



[#] Thu Jun 07 2012 02:17:32 PM EDT from s3cr3to @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

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Thu Jun 07 2012 04:33:08 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

 

Wed Jun 06 2012 17:57:16 EDT from s3cr3to @ Uncensored Subject: How to protect "Mail(inbox)" & purge the "Sent Items" automatically

In Citadel 7.86 with WebCit 7.86, server build c08adcea52e85d6139ad158c17eb3d1941df2eb5

I'm looking for set this:

  • for POP users, make that Citadel clean their "Sent Items" every N-days
  • for some users (Pop/Imap), I need protect their "Mail(Inbox)" so the autopurge or them DON'T delete messages in the inbox, those mails need to be stored for ages.

For the first point, I can't find or don't know if is possible to configure Citadel to accomplish it.

For the second point, I wonder if my only solution is to forward every mail to another room. ¿BUT Citadel will duplicate every mail or just do a reference to each mail without waste disk space? This mailbox is used to receive invoices; so my intention is to protect every invoice received for many years to come. And I'm afraid that autopurge will affect the backup room/account.

Regards

well, the first is only possible individualy per user / room

then the second won't appear anyways.

a copy of the mail when done the smart way won't change disk usage. citadel knows howto have several references to the same mail.

dothebart,

When I log in webcit as the user and I try to edit the room "Sent Items", "message expire policy" -  "(*)Expire by message age" - "Number os messages or days" = 15

I got a message on the top corner that says: "Higher access requiered", but of course this users aren't Aide level

I try using citadel as the user owner of this rooms, I enter to the "Sent Items" room, but I don't know how to change the "message expire policy"; if posible how?

or is possible that I as administrator/Aide can't go to the users rooms (sent items) and I can edit their message expire policy? -- how?

Regards



[#] Fri Jun 08 2012 03:25:58 AM EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Send Mail to Citadel-room from external address

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[#] Fri Jun 08 2012 05:34:15 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: SSL over port 2000?

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Thu Jun 07 2012 13:06:55 EDT from Will94 @ Uncensored Subject: SSL over port 2000?

I've just discovered Citadel and setup my first server.  I would like to know if I can implement SSL over port 2000 instead of 443?  If this is answered in an FAQ somewhere, a URL would be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance!

Will N.

Bryan, Texas  USA



whether or not SSL is added to the port is a question of specifying -s or not.

You're free in choice which port to use.

Usually you rather use proxy mode of the webserver binding port 443, since the non custom ports tend to make problems in firewall traversal.

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:installation:apacheproxy#how.can.i.install.webcit.so.it.runs.alongside.apache.nginx.lighthttpd.on.port.80.443

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:cmdman:webcit



[#] Fri Jun 08 2012 11:14:21 PM EDT from norbus @ Uncensored

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Apparently so... OI. OI. OI.

[#] Sat Jun 09 2012 03:47:33 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ygorl -- Are you still a room topic Nazi?

Ygorl only visits occasionally nowadays.

[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 01:10:24 AM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: SSL over port 2000?

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Fri Jun 08 2012 05:34:15 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: SSL over port 2000?

 

Thu Jun 07 2012 13:06:55 EDT from Will94 @ Uncensored Subject: SSL over port 2000?

I've just discovered Citadel and setup my first server.  I would like to know if I can implement SSL over port 2000 instead of 443?  If this is answered in an FAQ somewhere, a URL would be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance!

Will N.

Bryan, Texas  USA



whether or not SSL is added to the port is a question of specifying -s or not.

You're free in choice which port to use.

Usually you rather use proxy mode of the webserver binding port 443, since the non custom ports tend to make problems in firewall traversal.

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:installation:apacheproxy#how.can.i.install.webcit.so.it.runs.alongside.apache.nginx.lighthttpd.on.port.80.443

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:cmdman:webcit



I had no luck proxying SSL from Apache to WebCit. I got some sort of error about the SSL cert chain being too long or something.



[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 07:46:03 AM EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Webcit/Citadel password: trailing underscore(s) ignored!

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Hi,

Apparently citadel or webcit ignore trailing underscore(s) in passwords.

regards,
henning

[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 12:16:52 PM EDT from rajesh @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel mail server on CentOS

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Hello

Can anyone help to install and configure Citadel mail server on CentOS.

 

Thanks Rajesh Dolani



[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 01:23:28 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel mail server on CentOS

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[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 04:51:06 PM EDT from hh @ Uncensored

Subject: SyncKolab Calendar syncing problems

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Hi,

I refer to this thread because I recently ran in the same problem. I have tried various combinations of versions of thunderbird/synckolab/lightning but it won't work!

If I add a new date to my local calendar it will be synced as something like

4 - New event:
From: henning@hollermann.eu
Reply-To:
Bcc:
To: synckolab@no.tld
Subject: iCal d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3
Date: Mon, 11 June 2012 22:30:04 +0200
Content-Type: text/calendar;
  charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 2.0.1

BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
PRODID:-//Mozilla.org/NONSGML Mozilla Calendar V1.1//EN
BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
TZID:Africa/Accra
X-LIC-LOCATION:Africa/Accra
BEGIN:STANDARD
TZOFFSETFROM:+0000
TZOFFSETTO:+0000
TZNAME:GMT
DTSTART:19700101T000000
END:STANDARD
END:VTIMEZONE
BEGIN:VEVENT
CREATED:20120611T202941Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20120611T202947Z
DTSTAMP:20120611T202947Z
UID:d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3
SUMMARY:Test from Lightning
DTSTART;TZID=Africa/Accra:20120611T210000
DTEND;TZID=Africa/Accra:20120611T220000
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR

to the citadel-server. On a second sync synckolab complaints about a invalid subject (it appears to be something like Subject: =?UTF-8?B?TmV1ZXIgVGVybWlu?=) of the date in the imap-folder like:

72 - Message Test from Lightning (dateInSeconds: 1339448400) has flags: 129 flag imap_deleted? 0

Message 'Test from Lightning' has an invalid subject!

and consequently the date is apparently deleted by synckolab and NOT written anew in my local calendar:

1 - nextUpdate assumes 'delete on server', better don't write event:d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3

Is the subject-thing due to the citadel-server or a synckolab-made thing? Because the log of the first sync says that it is synced with a non-cryptic subject-header.

regards,

Henning



[#] Mon Jun 11 2012 05:31:08 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: SyncKolab Calendar syncing problems

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Mon Jun 11 2012 16:51:06 EDTfrom hh @ Uncensored Subject: SyncKolab Calendar syncing problems

Hi,

I refer to this thread because I recently ran in the same problem. I have tried various combinations of versions of thunderbird/synckolab/lightning but it won't work!

If I add a new date to my local calendar it will be synced as something like

4 - New event:
From: henning@hollermann.eu
Reply-To:
Bcc:
To: synckolab@no.tld
Subject: iCal d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3

 

this is probably some md5 hash which is put into the message subject; its abusing it, sort of

 


Date: Mon, 11 June 2012 22:30:04 +0200
Content-Type: text/calendar;
  charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 2.0.1

BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
PRODID:-//Mozilla.org/NONSGML Mozilla Calendar V1.1//EN
BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
TZID:Africa/Accra
X-LIC-LOCATION:Africa/Accra
BEGIN:STANDARD
TZOFFSETFROM:+0000
TZOFFSETTO:+0000
TZNAME:GMT
DTSTART:19700101T000000
END:STANDARD
END:VTIMEZONE
BEGIN:VEVENT
CREATED:20120611T202941Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20120611T202947Z
DTSTAMP:20120611T202947Z
UID:d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3
SUMMARY:Test from Lightning
DTSTART;TZID=Africa/Accra:20120611T210000
DTEND;TZID=Africa/Accra:20120611T220000
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR

to the citadel-server. On a second sync synckolab complaints about a invalid subject (it appears to be something like Subject: =?UTF-8?B?TmV1ZXIgVGVybWlu?=) of the date in the imap-folder like:

this is a general quoted printeable encoded email subject as its perfectly legal; when decoded it contains the human readable version of the ical subject. you can i.e. use the libcitadel unit tests to decypher them:

echo '=?UTF-8?B?TmV1ZXIgVGVybWlu?='|./stringbuf_conversion_test -i


     CUnit - A Unit testing framework for C - Version 2.1-0
     http://cunit.sourceforge.net/

the ugly multi:>Neuer Termin<
the ugly multi:><

 

72 - Message Test from Lightning (dateInSeconds: 1339448400) has flags: 129 flag imap_deleted? 0

Message 'Test from Lightning' has an invalid subject!

and consequently the date is apparently deleted by synckolab and NOT written anew in my local calendar:

1 - nextUpdate assumes 'delete on server', better don't write event:d9f94127-bde0-4b81-914f-1e360cd870a3

Is the subject-thing due to the citadel-server or a synckolab-made thing? Because the log of the first sync says that it is synced with a non-cryptic subject-header.

regards,

Henning



its probably an undefined space, which was chosen by one to contain an id string, and by the other to contain what its name sugests: the subject.



[#] Tue Jun 12 2012 04:50:12 AM EDT from Stefan @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel mail server on CentOS

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Mon Jun 11 2012 12:16:52 EDT from rajesh @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel mail server on CentOS

Hello

Can anyone help to install and configure Citadel mail server on CentOS.

Thanks Rajesh Dolani

Go to http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:rpm and click on the Link to install Citadel. Choose your OS and version and execute the commands (which will add a repository and install citadel with its dependencies). It's the same procedure for webcit and/or citadel-client.

Adjust the settings in /etc/sysconfig/citadel and /etc/sysconfig/webcit to your needs. Then run '/etc/init.d/citadel setup' to configure citadel. If you need webcit (citadel's webserver), then start it with '/etc/init.d/webcit start'. Now you're ready to access citadel by its client or via webbrowser.

Enjoy.



[#] Tue Jun 12 2012 09:07:01 AM EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> to room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Lightning and Citadel groupdav calendar

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Hi,

I would like to access my calendars via groupdav-interface because
synckolab/citadel seem to have problems with whitespaces and timezones
(as reported before), but as accessed with thunderbird/lightning there
is an error reported. The calendar http://domain/groupdav/Calendar is
offered as iso-encoded, not utf-8 (which seems strange, because all my
systems are configured to use utf-8) and cannot be read as utf-8. Is
there some workaround or fix for this?

regards,
Henning

[#] Tue Jun 12 2012 11:10:11 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Lightning and Citadel groupdav calendar

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Tue Jun 12 2012 09:07:01 EDT from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de> Subject: Lightning and Citadel groupdav calendar
Hi,

I would like to access my calendars via groupdav-interface because
synckolab/citadel seem to have problems with whitespaces and timezones
(as reported before), but as accessed with thunderbird/lightning there
is an error reported. The calendar http://domain/groupdav/Calendar is
offered as iso-encoded, not utf-8 (which seems strange, because all my
systems are configured to use utf-8) and cannot be read as utf-8. Is
there some workaround or fix for this?

regards,
Henning

Citadel doesn't alter the contents when storing ical elements.

The only way when its changed is when you edit it in webcit; which only understands different charsets, but writes utf-8.

So you have to search somewhere else on the way in who is storing iso.



[#] Tue Jun 12 2012 01:39:06 PM EDT from leagle @ Uncensored

Subject: Can Citadel co-exist with OpenMediaVault on Debian Squeeze?

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OpenMediaVault is Debian based NAS distro that I use on my home fileservers. I'm interested in running Citadel on the same machine. As long as I make sure that both services aren't listening on the same port, is there any reason you can see that they would not happily co-exist on the same machine?

 

Thanks.



[#] Tue Jun 12 2012 02:44:19 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Can Citadel co-exist with OpenMediaVault on Debian Squeeze?

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http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking

contains a list of ports citserver can bind, but except for 504 doesn't have to (if you want to use s.th. else for such a service...)

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them

you should just be able to install the .debs with apt or whatever.



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