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[#] Wed May 27 2015 11:01:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Install issue when trying to use OpenLDAP

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As Les Harvey used to say:
"And NOW you know the REST of the story."
<evil grin>

Yup. They've been doing that for years, too. The whole company is built around that kind of douchebaggery.

[#] Wed May 27 2015 11:06:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Why easyinstall downloads outdated libraries ?

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I understand that maybe the latest release can break code and do not
introduce something that is useful to citadel but when there is
security updates included or there is backports or the citadel should
be updated.

The latest versions should work fine, and if you're interested in having the latest -- particularly if you use your Linux distribution's package manager to keep them updated -- you can definitely go with that.

The versions distributed with Easy Install have, quite simply, been *tested* by the distributor. From time to time they are refreshed to the latest available versions and tested again, but we avoid the practice of simply grabbing the latest version and assuming it will work.

To use versions of the libraries other than those distributed, you can download the source tarballs and build them against what's already on your system.

[#] Wed May 27 2015 17:43:20 EDT from JBSavage @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

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Tue May 26 2015 13:56:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

You're probably mixing up a .deb install with an easy install.

You have to choose for one.

For users with lesser linux experience going the .deb way is easier.



Thanks. I have tried both ways. The .deb method does seem to install Citadel, but when I try to log in as "admin" or "ADMIN" or "Admin" it says user "admin" not found" I do believe the software is working, i am just unable to access administrator functionality. Any help is appreciated.



[#] Thu May 28 2015 06:51:51 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

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Wed May 27 2015 17:43:20 EDT from JBSavage @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

 

Tue May 26 2015 13:56:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

You're probably mixing up a .deb install with an easy install.

You have to choose for one.

For users with lesser linux experience going the .deb way is easier.



Thanks. I have tried both ways. The .deb method does seem to install Citadel, but when I try to log in as "admin" or "ADMIN" or "Admin" it says user "admin" not found" I do believe the software is working, i am just unable to access administrator functionality. Any help is appreciated.



easy install will behave the same after it installed successfully.

The behaviour is expected that way.

You're intended to 'create a new account' which then will become the admin.

have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started



[#] Fri May 29 2015 11:05:46 EDT from JBSavage @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

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Thu May 28 2015 06:51:51 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

 

Wed May 27 2015 17:43:20 EDT from JBSavage @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

 

Tue May 26 2015 13:56:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

You're probably mixing up a .deb install with an easy install.

You have to choose for one.

For users with lesser linux experience going the .deb way is easier.



Thanks. I have tried both ways. The .deb method does seem to install Citadel, but when I try to log in as "admin" or "ADMIN" or "Admin" it says user "admin" not found" I do believe the software is working, i am just unable to access administrator functionality. Any help is appreciated.



easy install will behave the same after it installed successfully.

The behaviour is expected that way.

You're intended to 'create a new account' which then will become the admin.

have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started



Wow. Guess I am a moron for having so much trouble installing an easy to install package. lol. I have tried adding a user named admin and also administrator but was never able to get administrative options to setup domain, etc. SO, i removed the installation and tried to reinstall using the .deb install. I added:deb http://debian.citadel.org/debian/ jessie main to my sources.list and then tried to run:  apt-get install citadel-suite

and got the following:

root@debian:/home/john# apt-get install citadel-suite
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package citadel-suite
root@debian:/home/john# apt-get install citadel-server
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package citadel-server

I HAVE PASTED MY CURRENT SOURCES.LIST BELOW IN HOPES THAT IT MAY HELP.

#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
deb http://debian.citadel.org/debian/ jessie main

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib



[#] Fri May 29 2015 16:19:11 EDT from "Panagiotis Palias" <panagos81@gmail.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Libcitadel installation failure

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You should first run "sudo apt-get update" to download the new available packages.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:05 PM, JBSavage <JBSavage@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:

 

Thu May 28 2015 06:51:51 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

 

Wed May 27 2015 17:43:20 EDT from JBSavage @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

 

Tue May 26 2015 13:56:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Libcitadel installation failure

You're probably mixing up a .deb install with an easy install.

You have to choose for one.

For users with lesser linux experience going the .deb way is easier.



Thanks. I have tried both ways. The .deb method does seem to install Citadel, but when I try to log in as "admin" or "ADMIN" or "Admin" it says user "admin" not found" I do believe the software is working, i am just unable to access administrator functionality. Any help is appreciated.



easy install will behave the same after it installed successfully.

The behaviour is expected that way.

You're intended to 'create a new account' which then will become the admin.

have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started



Wow. Guess I am a moron for having so much trouble installing an easy to install package. lol. I have tried adding a user named admin and also administrator but was never able to get administrative options to setup domain, etc. SO, i removed the installation and tried to reinstall using the .deb install. I added:deb http://debian.citadel.org/debian/ jessie main to my sources..list and then tried to run:  apt-get install citadel-suite

and got the following:

root@debian:/home/john# apt-get install citadel-suite
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package citadel-suite
root@debian:/home/john# apt-get install citadel-server
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package citadel-server

I HAVE PASTED MY CURRENT SOURCES.LIST BELOW IN HOPES THAT IT MAY HELP.

#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
deb http://debian.citadel.org/debian/ jessie main

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib




--
-p


[#] Fri May 29 2015 17:23:02 EDT from apritiki @ Uncensored

Subject: journaling

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email collected at journaling account does not have recipient field filled, it it a feature?



[#] Sat May 30 2015 10:35:18 EDT from mclaughton @ Uncensored

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Good Morning

 

I do have few issues in my email,

1   when I try to reply or reply to all , I am not able to type my message ,even when I tried to send an new email I am not able to type my message, please advice

 

2 Trash always have more than 1000 messages, when I delete it ,it is gone, later when I log in again I see all the message back Why ? I am not able to delete it please advice

 

Thanks response would be much appreciated

 



[#] Mon Jun 01 2015 15:56:45 EDT from majo @ Uncensored

Subject: password length on citadel 9.01

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Hello,

I have a strange symptom.

Connections to citadel  (9.01) direct fail but connection over webcit succeed.

For direct connections passwords can not be longer then 13 chars (e.g. 1234567890123 is okay but 12345678901234 fails).

Direct connects work if password is shorter then 14 chars.

Regards maj_o



[#] Mon Jun 01 2015 17:08:00 EDT from majo @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: password length on citadel 9.01

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After a while I figured out, that password length must be 13 chars. In this case Jabber, WebCit and GroupDav work.

Just mail does not work. Seams for mail password length must be less then 13 - what a pitty.



[#] Tue Jun 02 2015 09:54:15 EDT from Tim @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel Update

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Hi,

 

I would like to know if it is possible to update an existing citadel server and how I would go about doing this?

 

I am not sure if easy install was initially used.

 

 



[#] Tue Jun 02 2015 11:37:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel Update

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I am not sure if easy install was initially used.

If you have all of the following directories, and they contain the *active* copies of your Citadel system, then you are probably looking at an Easy Install:

/usr/local/citadel
/usr/local/webcit
/usr/local/ctdlsupport

If that is the case, then you can simply run Easy Install again to update everything automatically.

I'm sure you have already planned to do a full backup of your system first.
:)

[#] Tue Jun 02 2015 13:08:33 EDT from "Marcelo Teixeira" <marcelo.teixeira@actumplus.com.br> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Citadel Update

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How can I leave this forum ?

On 02/06/2015 12:37, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
I am not sure if easy install was initially used.

If you have all of the following directories, and they contain the *active*
copies of your Citadel system, then you are probably looking at an Easy Install:


/usr/local/citadel
/usr/local/webcit
/usr/local/ctdlsupport

If that is the case, then you can simply run Easy Install again to update
everything automatically.

I'm sure you have already planned to do a full backup of your system first.
:)

[#] Wed Jun 03 2015 11:25:26 EDT from idlisten @ Uncensored

Subject: Easy install update failed

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I've been running citadel for a while and it's been great. I backed up my data, then tried to update my system via easy install. My root partition was totally full (surprise!), so the update failed.

Since then, I've deleted some files and freed up a few GB. Then, I tried to update via easy install again. But, when I try to connect via Webcit, I get "0 Received unexpected answer from Citadel server; bailing out."

How can I fix this? Thanks.



[#] Wed Jun 03 2015 13:24:35 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

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Wed Jun 03 2015 11:25:26 AM EDT from idlisten @ Uncensored Subject: Easy install update failed

I've been running citadel for a while and it's been great. I backed up my data, then tried to update my system via easy install. My root partition was totally full (surprise!), so the update failed.

Since then, I've deleted some files and freed up a few GB. Then, I tried to update via easy install again. But, when I try to connect via Webcit, I get "0 Received unexpected answer from Citadel server; bailing out."

How can I fix this? Thanks.

Remove the current contents of /usr/local/citadel, estore your previous installation, start Citadel and retry the EasyInstall upgrade.



[#] Wed Jun 03 2015 14:32:16 EDT from idlisten @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

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Wed Jun 03 2015 13:24:35 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

 

Remove the current contents of /usr/local/citadel, estore your previous installation, start Citadel and retry the EasyInstall upgrade.


I only backed up my /data subdirectory (oops). Can I delete the current installation, reinstall, and restore /data files to get running again?



[#] Wed Jun 03 2015 17:59:53 EDT from idlisten @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

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Well, I backed up my (apparently corrupted) citadel directories. I tried to stop the citadel process, but it wouldn't stop normally. I had to pkill the processes I could find. I deleted the *.sum files and forced Easy Install to overwrite the installation. I cranked along for a while and came back with "stopping citadel ... failed". Then it continued for a bit and hit "starting citadel ... ok" and that's where it hung. Now, I get "this webpage is not available" when trying to access citadel.

Any thoughts?



[#] Thu Jun 04 2015 11:51:53 EDT from idlisten @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

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If I delete the citadel installation, reinstall it, and copy my database into the new installation, would that restore my messages?

Thanks



[#] Thu Jun 04 2015 11:58:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Citadel Update

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How can I leave this forum ?

http://uncensored.citadel.org/listsub

[#] Thu Jun 04 2015 12:00:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Easy install update failed

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Unfortunately there is more to a Citadel installation than just what is stored in Berkeley DB. Of paramount importance are the citadel.config and citadel.control files, which are crucial to the system's operation.

Are you able to connect to Citadel using anything other than WebCit? (text client, imap/smtp, etc)

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