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[#] Thu Jul 25 2013 13:19:10 EDT from schaap23 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

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I logged in as the admin. Checked the global address book (via show all rooms -> global address book) and saw that each user had at least 3 entries. So each user had multiple vcards.

It seems like each time when you edit someones global address book entry as an admin, a new vcard is made for that user when you click on save.
Having to many vcards for each user apparently overloads citadel when it has to resolve a user to an email address.
Removing all the vcards in the global address book room, resolved my issue.
Emails are properly mapped to a user again and arrive in the correct mailbox.

Tue Jul 23 2013 17:06:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

 

Tue Jul 23 2013 15:29:15 EDT from schaap23 @ Uncensored Subject: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

I cannot receive email anymore.

 

when I send an email to my citadel server I get the following error:

 

Technical details of permanent failure:

Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the relay smtp.domainname.nl by smtp.domainnamer.nl. [x.x.x.x].


The error that the other server returned was:
550 Invalid recipient: schaap23@domainname.nl
 
 
I dont understand this. Since the user exists on citadel!
How can the recipient be invalid when it actually exists?


try

sendcommand qdir schaap23@domainname.nl

to see what it returns.

try editing your personal vcard (or simply saving it again)



 



[#] Fri Jul 26 2013 13:18:58 EDT from curry @ Uncensored

Subject: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Hello,

thank you for this nice piece of software.

I just installed Citadel-Suite 8.14 on Raspberry PI and everything seems to work but:

Is it intended that normal users (e.g. network users) cant create new messages/post to a private room (invite only, using webcit)?
They are of course invited into that room and the room itself is not readonly.

When i click on "enter a message" it just happens nothing (tested with opera and firefox).

It only works if the user is set as room aide. 



[#] Sat Jul 27 2013 12:01:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi. This is an unexpected twist to our story. I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this!

[#] Sat Jul 27 2013 14:32:44 EDT from mxhess @ Uncensored

Subject: wishlist item

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I do have one wishlist item for citadel... replication of all data within citadel between citadel sites. I would love to be able to setup multiple geographically redundant systems and a load balanacer and have all data available at all sites.



[#] Sun Jul 28 2013 01:15:26 EDT from curry @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Sat Jul 27 2013 12:01:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user
Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi. This is an unexpected twist to our story. I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this!

sarcasm?

from a good source: "For a simple BBS, 256 MB of memory might be just fine."



[#] Sun Jul 28 2013 14:49:42 EDT from billsmith @ Uncensored

Subject: Latest versions/source?

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?Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi.  This is an unexpected twist to our story.  I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this"

Indeed!  Great software, and ideal for an emergency-response application server in a battery-operated wi-fi mesh network. 

Where can the latest version (or source) be downloaded?  Version 8.17 reportedly fixes data entry/prompting problems with cellphones, but the

raspberry pi repository supports 8.14.   The Citadel website (running v8.13?) only contains a URL stub for source.

 

My attempt to reply from an email subscription generated the response that the mail server bounced the post with the message "not a member of the group."

Or, most recently, "550 This mailing list only accepts posts from subscribers."

Bill



[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 16:05:30 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: 502 Bad Gateway

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Hi,

I'm running nginx and Citadel on Linux 13.04 Server Edition. The mail server part works, but I can not get to Webcit. When I enter the URL I get 

502 Bad Gateway

What could the problem be? I have googled it and it has been asked in this forum, but it was back in June of 2012 and I am not able to go that far back to find the post.

 



[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 16:07:07 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored

Subject: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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I'm new to Citadel and new to servers and mail servers in particular.  Over the past few weeks, I've successfully set up my Citadel email server and have migrated my personal domain over and its running quite well.  While I've been proud of how fast this old man has picked up on all of this, I'm now humbled as I can't figure out how to get citadel to work with my mobile phone (I have a Windows Phone 8 device).  In my reading, I've found numerous references to the Funambol connector and Funambol sync server.  However, when I click on the link in the FAQ, it is no longer valid.  I opened the Google cache version of the page and found the following:  "As of 2012, the Citadel email connector is unsupported due to the lack of client and server support for newer smartphones and Funambol releases."

 

Is there now an alternative to Funambol for accessing imap email from a mobile device?  What are others doing?  Am I missing something?

 

I greatly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

Thanks! 


 




[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 17:52:31 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Remove all login options except native

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Hi,

How do I remove all login options except for the Citadel native one? We do not want users to use any other login than the native Citadel one, but if the options are there users will try and ultimately ask about it.



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 00:07:36 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored

Subject: switched public domains

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 /var/log shows thousands of

Jul 29 22:52:21 mail citserver[2539]: CC[0]failed to open /var/spool/citadel/network/spoolout// for reading due to Is a directory; skipping.

 

I would assume this is happening because of the extra forward slash.

 

Is there anyway to "blank" all the mail rules and set them back to default?  Switching domains apparently left some old messages as it tries to send out from the old domain.

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 01:12:06 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 502 Bad Gateway

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I believe webcit uses apache.  You may have to do header forwarding to direct it to the right location.



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:40:06 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 502 Bad Gateway

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Tue Jul 30 2013 16:05:30 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored Subject: 502 Bad Gateway

Hi,

I'm running nginx and Citadel on Linux 13.04 Server Edition. The mail server part works, but I can not get to Webcit. When I enter the URL I get 

502 Bad Gateway

What could the problem be? I have googled it and it has been asked in this forum, but it was back in June of 2012 and I am not able to go that far back to find the post.

 



it means that nginx can't reach webcit where you configured it to.

have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:apacheproxy

and

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:42:24 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: switched public domains

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Wed Jul 31 2013 00:07:36 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored Subject: switched public domains

 /var/log shows thousands of

Jul 29 22:52:21 mail citserver[2539]: CC[0]failed to open /var/spool/citadel/network/spoolout// for reading due to Is a directory; skipping.

I would assume this is happening because of the extra forward slash.

Is there anyway to "blank" all the mail rules and set them back to default?  Switching domains apparently left some old messages as it tries to send out from the old domain.

hm, generaly you shouldn't get those if you don't use citadel networking or maybe list digest subscribers.

are you using the .debs? or .rpms? which host os? which version?



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:44:45 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Remove all login options except native

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Tue Jul 30 2013 17:52:31 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored Subject: Remove all login options except native

Hi,

How do I remove all login options except for the Citadel native one? We do not want users to use any other login than the native Citadel one, but if the options are there users will try and ultimately ask about it.



you can edit & overrule login.html.

have a look at http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:customize_webcit#customizing.webcit for details.



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:46:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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Tue Jul 30 2013 16:07:07 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored Subject: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

I'm new to Citadel and new to servers and mail servers in particular.  Over the past few weeks, I've successfully set up my Citadel email server and have migrated my personal domain over and its running quite well.  While I've been proud of how fast this old man has picked up on all of this, I'm now humbled as I can't figure out how to get citadel to work with my mobile phone (I have a Windows Phone 8 device).  In my reading, I've found numerous references to the Funambol connector and Funambol sync server.  However, when I click on the link in the FAQ, it is no longer valid.  I opened the Google cache version of the page and found the following:  "As of 2012, the Citadel email connector is unsupported due to the lack of client and server support for newer smartphones and Funambol releases."

 

Is there now an alternative to Funambol for accessing imap email from a mobile device?  What are others doing?  Am I missing something?

 

I greatly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

Thanks! 

doesn't your client have a native imap app available?



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 07:15:27 EDT from Eric Wagner @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: No notification for permanent failure.

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While I don't get any notification the the address was rejected by the remote server using Citadel.

 

I do get a 554 error if I send a message to the same non-existing user, via gmail.

 

 


Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: user@yahoo.com Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain yahoo.com by mta5.am0.yahoodns.net. [98.136.217.202]. The error that the other server returned was: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (user@yahoo.com) [-5] - mta1374.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
 

 

 

Am I missing configuration entries for handling these errors????

 


[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 08:54:36 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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Wed Jul 31 2013 04:46:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

 

Tue Jul 30 2013 16:07:07 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored Subject: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

I'm new to Citadel and new to servers and mail servers in particular.  Over the past few weeks, I've successfully set up my Citadel email server and have migrated my personal domain over and its running quite well.  While I've been proud of how fast this old man has picked up on all of this, I'm now humbled as I can't figure out how to get citadel to work with my mobile phone (I have a Windows Phone 8 device).  In my reading, I've found numerous references to the Funambol connector and Funambol sync server.  However, when I click on the link in the FAQ, it is no longer valid.  I opened the Google cache version of the page and found the following:  "As of 2012, the Citadel email connector is unsupported due to the lack of client and server support for newer smartphones and Funambol releases."

 

Is there now an alternative to Funambol for accessing imap email from a mobile device?  What are others doing?  Am I missing something?

 

I greatly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

Thanks! 

doesn't your client have a native imap app available?



 

Thanks for taking the time to reply. In reading your question, I realized that I failed to actually describe the problem I'm having. I can successfully retrieve and send mail via imap in both outlook and thunderbird on my desktop computer. However, with the same mail settings applied in the native imap app on my phone, I get the email header only and the app just hangs attempting to download the body of the message, regardless of size. I've had no problems accessing mail from other servers via imap using the same native client. 

 

Perhaps I've incorrectly concluded that it has something to do with push functionality. Suggestions?

Thanks!



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 10:06:31 EDT from Mathew McBride @ comalies

Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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Tue Jul 30 2013 08:07:07 PM UTC from snakefisher @ Uncensored Subject: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

I'm new to Citadel and new to servers and mail servers in particular.  Over the past few weeks, I've successfully set up my Citadel email server and have migrated my personal domain over and its running quite well.  While I've been proud of how fast this old man has picked up on all of this, I'm now humbled as I can't figure out how to get citadel to work with my mobile phone (I have a Windows Phone 8 device).  In my reading, I've found numerous references to the Funambol connector and Funambol sync server.  However, when I click on the link in the FAQ, it is no longer valid.  I opened the Google cache version of the page and found the following:  "As of 2012, the Citadel email connector is unsupported due to the lack of client and server support for newer smartphones and Funambol releases."

 

Is there now an alternative to Funambol for accessing imap email from a mobile device?  What are others doing?  Am I missing something?

 

I greatly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

Thanks!

Firstly, you can use POP and IMAP to access email on your device as you would with a desktop email client. What you cannot do is 'push email' - where the email server notifies your device when new mail has arrived.

The Funambol Email connector was my doing (I am still maintaining the contacts/calendar module for Funambol) - and what you have said is correct - push email via Funambol is no longer supported as there are no clients for modern mobile OSes. (The last supported OSes were Windows Mobile, J2ME, S60 and BlackBerry 4)

I think someone was developing ZPush (ActiveSync) for Citadel, which would be the best way to do it these days, as long as you aren't somewhere where Microsoft can enforce their patents against you. IMAP IDLE would be another alternative, but no one has attempted to add that into Citadel, unfortunately.

The push notification feature is still in Citadel if you want to work out a way to deliver new email notifications seperately.

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 17:13:37 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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Wed Jul 31 2013 10:06:31 EDT from Mathew McBride @ comalies Subject: Re: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

 

Firstly, you can use POP and IMAP to access email on your device as you would with a desktop email client. What you cannot do is 'push email' - where the email server notifies your device when new mail has arrived.

The Funambol Email connector was my doing (I am still maintaining the contacts/calendar module for Funambol) - and what you have said is correct - push email via Funambol is no longer supported as there are no clients for modern mobile OSes. (The last supported OSes were Windows Mobile, J2ME, S60 and BlackBerry 4)

I think someone was developing ZPush (ActiveSync) for Citadel, which would be the best way to do it these days, as long as you aren't somewhere where Microsoft can enforce their patents against you. IMAP IDLE would be another alternative, but no one has attempted to add that into Citadel, unfortunately.

The push notification feature is still in Citadel if you want to work out a way to deliver new email notifications seperately.

 

 



I appreciate the clarification.  If I understand you correctly, both imap and pop3 should work without any additional accommodation for mobile devices.  If that's the case, do you have any suggestions on how to solve the problem that I described to dothebart, of not being able to fetch the entire message from the server?  

 

It doesn't seem to matter whether the message is an incoming email message or one that I sent that's located in my 'sent' folder.  I've also deleted the account from my phone and re-added it, to no avail.  

 

See the screenshot below - it doesn't matter how long I wait for the remaining 24KB (on my 1.5MB wifi connection), it never actually downloads the body of the message.  

 

Any help is appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

Screenshot

 

 



[#] Sat Aug 03 2013 03:25:54 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: switched public domains

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I am using debian repository.

root@mail:/var/log# uname -a
Linux mail.local 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux

The problem I am having now is that 'service citadel start' fills up the avail 40 session in seconds with the following (because SYS_SMTP_SEND is busy doing something)


Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 29990: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 29992: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 29994: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 29996: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 29999: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30000: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30002: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30004: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30006: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30007: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30010: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail citserver[6274]: SMTPCQ: Msg No 30012: already in progress!
Aug  3 02:20:19 mail rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid 6274 due to rate-limiting

Again I have switched from maildomain1 to maildomain2 and I want maildomain1 to eventually fade. So I went into the global Citadel settings and changed everything I could find to maildomain2, removed maildomain1 but apparently SYS_SMTP_SEND is trying to send stuff out like mad.  How can I keep my archived messages and start this mess over?

I can't even run ./citadel because I get as SOON as it starts. But if I let the service stop for an hour I can get back in via CLI and use it. (webcit, different story) I am still trying to figure out how to use NGINX on port 80 and keep webcit on 80 as well (looks like it uses Apache).

Please help

root@mail:/var/log# service citadel start
root@mail:/var/log# citadel
Attaching to server...
Can't connect: No such file or directory
root@mail:/var/log# citadel
Attaching to server...
Can't connect: No such file or directory
root@mail:/var/log# citadel
Attaching to server...
mail: Too many users are already online (maximum is 40)
root@mail:/var/log# citadel
Attaching to server...
mail: Too many users are already online (maximum is 40)
root@mail:/var/log# service citadel stop

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Wed Jul 31 2013 04:42:24 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: switched public domains

 

Wed Jul 31 2013 00:07:36 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored Subject: switched public domains

 /var/log shows thousands of

Jul 29 22:52:21 mail citserver[2539]: CC[0]failed to open /var/spool/citadel/network/spoolout// for reading due to Is a directory; skipping.

I would assume this is happening because of the extra forward slash.

Is there anyway to "blank" all the mail rules and set them back to default?  Switching domains apparently left some old messages as it tries to send out from the old domain.

hm, generaly you shouldn't get those if you don't use citadel networking or maybe list digest subscribers.

are you using the .debs? or .rpms? which host os? which version?

 


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