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[#] Fri Aug 23 2013 13:06:14 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Question about mailing lists.

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Hi,

 

I have set up a couple of mailing lists without problems. Let's say one of them is called 'mylist'. However when I try to send mail (using Thunderbird) to the list at 'mylist@mydomain.com' it gets rejected with:

"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  Invalid recipient: mylist. Please check the message recipient mylist@mydomain.com and try again."

What am I doing wrong since it's not possible to send to the list I am subscribed to?

Also I would like subscription to be moderated so that after users subscribe in webcit admin or aide has to approve the subscription before the user can post to the list. It would also work if I could set it so that only local users can subscribe and post.

Otherwise Citadel is working great as far as webcit and mail delivery is concerned.



[#] Fri Aug 23 2013 13:59:18 EDT from mxhess @ Uncensored

Subject: xmpp server to server port not available in webcit admin

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I'd like to be able to message others on IM services such as google chat but it would appear that I cannot enable the server to server port in the web interface. There is a box for the 5222 client port but there is no box below allowing me to enable/set the 5269 port for communication. Is there another way to enable this?

 

 



[#] Sun Aug 25 2013 23:25:56 EDT from snorkasaurus @ Uncensored

Subject: Name and email address in alias

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Greetings,

I would like to be able to setup different identities for my mailbox, each with its own name and email address. For example, if my real name is "Joe Schmoe" then I would like to create a Citadel user who has the name Joe Schmoe, and the email address joe.schmoe@mydomain.com.  Then I would like to create aliases for this user such as Joe with the email address joe@mydomain.com and Gary with the email address cheapskate@mydomain.com and Larry with the email address onebadeye@mydomain.com.  I have tried to set this up by creating a user and then providing additional email addresses in the "Internet e-mail aliases" box of the Citadel admin page.  Unfortunately when I send messages from an IMAP client such as SeaMonkey, the sender name and email address are changed to my display name and primary email address.  Is there a way to have "aliased messages" arrive at the recipient's mailbox with no reference to the primary account?

S.



[#] Mon Aug 26 2013 14:45:46 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Delete a floor in Webcit

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Hi,

 

I want to delete a floor in Webcit. But when I go Administration > Add, change, or delete floors I see the two floors I have, but no option to delete either one of them. Another strange thing is that it says that the floor I want to delete has 5 rooms. As far as I know it shouldn't have any. Anyhow, all I want is to delete it and every room it supposedly contains.



[#] Mon Aug 26 2013 18:55:27 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Name and email address in alias

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Is there a way to have "aliased messages" arrive at the recipient's mailbox with no reference to the primary account?

If you request that this is done automagically, it is impossible at the moment, but at least an interesting feature. I had requested the same thing once.

What you can do is: Create an extra profile for each alias in your mail client, set it up accordingly, but use your real account name for auth purposes. Then it should work. Maybe you need to disable a check in Citadel somewhere, since this autocorrection is a feature, too. (So that noone can abuse your server to send mail as "Steve Ballmer" ceo@douchebag.com)

PS: Of course, setting an extra profile for each alias is a pita.



[#] Tue Aug 27 2013 08:55:50 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Has "citmail" changed?

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While running 8.16 on my CentOS 6 system, I created a symlink "/usr/sbin/sendmail" which pointed at "/usr/local/citadel/citmail".

I'm not running any other MTA on this system, and this setup allowed system messages, like output from cronjobs, to appear in my Aide> room.

Since the upgrade to 8.20, the nightly system report no longer appears in my Aide room...investigation shows that invoking citmail results in the following error:

citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.

I've tried running with the -d, and get the following output:

[mburger@bbs ~]$ /usr/local/citadel/citmail -d -t freakdog
> 220 bbs.bubbanfriends.org ESMTP Citadel server ready.
data
testing
< LHLO bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250-Greetings and joyous salutations.
> 250-HELP
> 250-SIZE 51200000
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> 250 8BITMIME
< MAIL From: mburger@bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250 Sender ok
< RCPT To: freakdog
> 550 No recipients specified.
< DATA
> 503 Need RCPT command first.
citmail: DATA command failed
citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.
< QUIT
> 221 Goodbye...

Since I'm using the -t and it shows the recipient, which just happens to be my login name, and as this worked prior to the upgrade from 8.16 to 8.20, I'm at a loss.



[#] Tue Aug 27 2013 09:22:54 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel freezes up once every one or two days.

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Hi,

On a Ubuntu 13.04 Citadel 8.14 freezes up once every one or two days. When I try to restart the citadel service I get something like this:

sudo service citadel restart
sendcommand: started (pid=25446) connecting to Citadel server at /var/run/citadel/citadel-admin.socket

and sometimes:

/etc/init.d/citadel: line 73: 10521 Alarm clock             sendcommand "DOWN"

Usually Citadel comes back after a while, but it takes longer and longer for it to be back.

What could be wrong?

 

 



[#] Tue Aug 27 2013 13:53:30 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Webcit not starting from /etc/init.d/webcit anymore

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Hi,

The problem I am having is thatb Webcit doesn't start using the startup script /etc/init.d/webcit, so when I do 'sudo service webcit start' it appears to start but doesn't and I get this in the syslog:


Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Text domain Charset: UTF8
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Message catalog directory: /usr/share//locale
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: Attempting to bind to port 8080...
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: Can't bind: Address already in use
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Attempting to bind to port 4343...

If i simply start webcit from the command line with 'webcit' it works and I get this in the syslog:

 
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Message catalog directory: /usr/share//locale
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Attempting to bind to port 2000...
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Listening on socket 6

I have no idea what happened since I know I have run webcit using the service command without problems.






[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 08:42:03 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Webcit not starting from /etc/init.d/webcit anymore

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Tue Aug 27 2013 01:53:30 PM EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored Subject: Webcit not starting from /etc/init.d/webcit anymore

Hi,

The problem I am having is thatb Webcit doesn't start using the startup script /etc/init.d/webcit, so when I do 'sudo service webcit start' it appears to start but doesn't and I get this in the syslog:


Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Text domain Charset: UTF8
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Message catalog directory: /usr/share//locale
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: Attempting to bind to port 8080...
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26598]: Can't bind: Address already in use
Aug 27 12:49:13 concerto webcit[26601]: Attempting to bind to port 4343...

If i simply start webcit from the command line with 'webcit' it works and I get this in the syslog:

 
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Message catalog directory: /usr/share//locale
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: No Site-local Stylesheet [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Attempting to bind to port 2000...
Aug 27 12:50:40 concerto webcit[27645]: Listening on socket 6

I have no idea what happened since I know I have run webcit using the service command without problems.

So, what other process do you have running that is already using ports 8080 and 4343?



[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 15:00:35 EDT from cup @ Uncensored

Subject: How do you access webcit from an external browser

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[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 17:15:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: How do you access webcit from an external browser

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WebCit runs on port 2000 by default. Try http://example.com:2000

[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 18:13:13 EDT from Lido @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Owncloud with Citadel

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Thu Aug 22 2013 00:30:33 EDT from pengrus @ Uncensored Subject: Owncloud with Citadel

I apologize if this has been answered before somwhere, I truly truly googled the hell out of this, and have tried every solution I found to no avail.

I am trying to run citadel alongside nginx (specifcally owncloud).

The root of my problem is not being able to proxy the nginx or the citadel properly, so that the subdomain mail.mydomain.com directs to citadel.  I have tried multiple times in different ways to use the "how do I run citadel alongside apache/nginx/lighttpd" config file given on the documentation page, but I am not having any luck.

I have also tried several different configurations I could find in tutorials or whathaveyou on the interwebs, but again, no luck.

I have the nginx listening on 80 and forcing ssl.  Citadel is listening on 2000 and 4343 for plain and SSL.  If I go to mydomain.com:4343, it works, but again, I'd prefer to have the subdomain functioning properly instead.

I hope I've provided enough information to help diagnose this issue, please let me know if not!

Thanks to all in advance!



I believe I'm doing this currently (nginx serving a few domains and webcit handling one). I'm using Tomato on my router and have quite a few port forwards to make things work, but I'm pretty sure I got it working by installing an additional ethernet card. Webcit uses eth0 and nginx uses eth1 IIRC.

 

In etc/network/interfaces:

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp


Try this in sites-available:

server {
    server_name yourdomain.com;
    listen 192.168.0.5

    etc etc.

}

 

Then I can't remember where I set citadel to only listen on 192.168.0.4, but I must have been able to set that somewhere (or eth0 if that's how that's done).



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 13:02:32 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: sorry for causing inconvenience

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I have to say sorry to all of those who got a bunch of mails from my rss feeds - I've mixed up stuff on my test system.



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 13:09:44 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Has "citmail" changed?

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yes, citmail changed - but afair thats been a while; its been switched from using citadel protocol to simply talking smtp via the lmtp unix domain socket.

in general you could use msmtp for that purpose - its more sophisticated with special options then the very simple citmail.

does

sendcommand qdir freakdog give you usefull replies?

I guess adding a domain name could resolve the problem.

Tue Aug 27 2013 08:55:50 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Has "citmail" changed?

While running 8.16 on my CentOS 6 system, I created a symlink "/usr/sbin/sendmail" which pointed at "/usr/local/citadel/citmail".

I'm not running any other MTA on this system, and this setup allowed system messages, like output from cronjobs, to appear in my Aide> room.

Since the upgrade to 8.20, the nightly system report no longer appears in my Aide room...investigation shows that invoking citmail results in the following error:

citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.

I've tried running with the -d, and get the following output:

[mburger@bbs ~]$ /usr/local/citadel/citmail -d -t freakdog
> 220 bbs.bubbanfriends.org ESMTP Citadel server ready.
data
testing
< LHLO bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250-Greetings and joyous salutations.
> 250-HELP
> 250-SIZE 51200000
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> 250 8BITMIME
< MAIL From: mburger@bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250 Sender ok
< RCPT To: freakdog
> 550 No recipients specified.
< DATA
> 503 Need RCPT command first.
citmail: DATA command failed
citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.
< QUIT
> 221 Goodbye...

Since I'm using the -t and it shows the recipient, which just happens to be my login name, and as this worked prior to the upgrade from 8.16 to 8.20, I'm at a loss.



 



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 13:16:30 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel mailserver can't send email

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did you set up an mx record for your mailserver?

please have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:i_want_to_be_a_whitehead

and the referenced articles.



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 15:24:50 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Problem creating room/mailing list on the right floor.

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Hi,

I have a floor called "lists" with two rooms (mailing lists) in it: 'commercial' and 'staff'. I did also create a room called 'business' yesterday on the main floor which I deleted and wanted to recreate it today but on the lists floor. However,  it ends up on the main floor even if I save it in Webcit to the lists floor. Why can't I save it to the lists floor?



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 21:40:13 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

Subject: Re: Has "citmail" changed?

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Thu Aug 29 2013 01:09:44 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Has "citmail" changed?

yes, citmail changed - but afair thats been a while; its been switched from using citadel protocol to simply talking smtp via the lmtp unix domain socket.

in general you could use msmtp for that purpose - its more sophisticated with special options then the very simple citmail.

does

sendcommand qdir freakdog give you usefull replies?

I guess adding a domain name could resolve the problem.

Tue Aug 27 2013 08:55:50 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Has "citmail" changed?

While running 8.16 on my CentOS 6 system, I created a symlink "/usr/sbin/sendmail" which pointed at "/usr/local/citadel/citmail".

I'm not running any other MTA on this system, and this setup allowed system messages, like output from cronjobs, to appear in my Aide> room.

Since the upgrade to 8.20, the nightly system report no longer appears in my Aide room...investigation shows that invoking citmail results in the following error:

citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.

I've tried running with the -d, and get the following output:

[mburger@bbs ~]$ /usr/local/citadel/citmail -d -t freakdog
> 220 bbs.bubbanfriends.org ESMTP Citadel server ready.
data
testing
< LHLO bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250-Greetings and joyous salutations.
> 250-HELP
> 250-SIZE 51200000
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> 250 8BITMIME
< MAIL From: mburger@bbs.bubbanfriends.org
> 250 Sender ok
< RCPT To: freakdog
> 550 No recipients specified.
< DATA
> 503 Need RCPT command first.
citmail: DATA command failed
citmail: error #6 occurred while sending mail.
Please check your Citadel configuration.
< QUIT
> 221 Goodbye...

Since I'm using the -t and it shows the recipient, which just happens to be my login name, and as this worked prior to the upgrade from 8.16 to 8.20, I'm at a loss.

Looks like the issue may be inside of Citadel, not citmail. I tried the sendcommand qdir with just the username, username@nodename, username@ 2 different FQDNs, and it rejected all of them:

[mburger@bbs ~]$ sudo /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand qdir freakdog
sendcommand: started (pid=20245) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dogpound2 Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
qdir freakdog
570 freakdog was not found.
sendcommand: processing ended.
[mburger@bbs ~]$ sudo /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand qdir freakdog@dogpound2
sendcommand: started (pid=20247) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dogpound2 Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
qdir freakdog@dogpound2
570 freakdog@dogpound2 was not found.
sendcommand: processing ended.
[mburger@bbs ~]$ sudo /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand qdir freakdog@dogpound2.citadel.org
sendcommand: started (pid=20250) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dogpound2 Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
qdir freakdog@dogpound2.citadel.org
570 freakdog@dogpound2.citadel.org was not found.
sendcommand: processing ended.
[mburger@bbs ~]$ sudo /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand qdir freakdog@bbs.bubbanfriends.org
sendcommand: started (pid=20252) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dogpound2 Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
qdir freakdog@bbs.bubbanfriends.org
570 freakdog@bbs.bubbanfriends.org was not found.
sendcommand: processing ended.

Mailing from another system sends the email to freakdog@bbs.bubbanfriends.org but rejects freakdog@dogpound2.citadel.org with relaying denied (I can fix that).

But the rejections from Citmail are not good.



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 22:03:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Problem creating room/mailing list on the right floor.

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I have a floor called "lists" with two rooms (mailing lists) in it:
'commercial' and 'staff'. I did also create a room called 'business'
yesterday on the main floor which I deleted and wanted to recreate it
today but on the lists floor. However,  it ends up on the main floor
even if I save it in Webcit to the lists floor. Why can't I save it
to the lists floor?

That sounds like it could be a bug. Have you tried moving it using the text mode client?

[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 22:55:20 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored

Subject: Anyone use 'larch' to copy imap folders to gmail?

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I'm trying to use the Ruby on Rails script "larch" to copy folders from Citadel to Gmail. Information on larch can be found here:

  https://github.com/rgrove/larch/tree/release-1.1.2

However what happens is that larch loops/retries trying to (unsuccessfully) pull headers from Citadel. Here is debug output from larch:

[22:26:53] [debug] [<] updating mailboxes
[22:26:53] [debug] [<] connecting...
[22:26:54] [info] [<] connected to 127.0.0.1 on port 143
[22:26:54] [debug] [<] authenticating using LOGIN
[22:26:55] [debug] [<] authenticated using LOGIN
[22:26:55] [debug] [>] connecting...
[22:26:55] [info] [>] connected to imap.gmail.com on port 993 using SSL
[22:26:55] [debug] [>] looks like Gmail
[22:26:55] [debug] [>] authenticating using PLAIN
[22:26:56] [debug] [>] authenticated using PLAIN
[22:26:56] [debug] [>] updating mailboxes
[22:26:56] [info] 127.0.0.1/INBOX/misc/personal -> imap.gmail.com/INBOX/misc/personal
[22:26:56] [debug] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: getting mailbox status
[22:26:57] [debug] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: examining mailbox
[22:26:57] [info] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: fetching message headers 1 through 15...

[22:34:06] [debug] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: getting mailbox status
[22:34:07] [info] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: fetching message headers 1 through 15...
[22:40:58] [debug] [>] INBOX/misc/personal: getting mailbox status
[22:40:58] [debug] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: getting mailbox status
[22:40:59] [info] [<] INBOX/misc/personal: fetching message headers 1 through 15...

The larch script loops here indefinitely, retrying every several minutes.  None of the messages make it to gmail, though the target folder is created. Has anyone here had success using this or know of a similar tool that works with Citadel? I have to copy a pretty large and complex folder heirarchy from Citadel to gmail for one of our users, doing it manually via an imap client such as Thunderbird is going to be slow and cumbersome.



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 23:30:51 EDT from Brett @ Uncensored

Subject: Thunderbird config with Citadel

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I have a freshly installed citadel server running on Debian 7.0. Mail works from webcit, but when I attempt to create a mail account with Thunderbird, I'm getting "Configuration could not be verified -- Is the username or password wrong?." Ports are all set to default and i'm using STARTTLS. I've tried variations of my username with and without the domain name, with and without the node name after user@, but no luck. Is this something that has to be enabled per account? How would I go about troubleshooting this issue?


Thanks!



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