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[#] Wed Jul 24 2013 07:07:14 EDT from Eric Wagner @ Uncensored

Subject: No notification for permanent failure.

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I'm running Citadel 8.14 on Debian 7.

I don't receive failure messages for some permanent failures.  I'm not sure if this is the fault of the receiving mail server (not sending proper

or expected failure message).

 

When sending mail to an undeliverable yahoo address, I don't get notified of the failure.

 

Here is log entry:

Jul 22 06:57:25 mail citserver[1746]: SMTPC:IO[404]CC[404]S[86059][33] connecting to mta7.am0.yahoodns.net [66.196.118.33]:25 ...

Jul 22 06:57:25 mail citserver[1746]: SMTPC:IO[404]CC[404]S[86059][33] Delivery failed permanently; giving up. Time[0.868163s] Recipient <someUser> @ <yahoo.com> (someUser) Status message: delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (someUser@yahoo.com) [-5] - mta1008.mail.bf1.yahoo.com

Jul 22 06:57:25 mail citserver[1746]: Context: [404]SRV[SMTP_Send] Session ended.

Here is an early message that failed, with no notification email sent:

Jun 28 12:38:41 mail citserver[2055]: SMTPC:IO[598]CC[598]S[83017][87] connecting to valiantsolutions-com.mail.eo.outlook.com [207.46.163.215]:25 ...

Jun 28 12:38:46 mail citserver[2055]: SMTPC:IO[598]CC[598]S[83017][87] Delivery failed permanently; giving up. Time[6.186813s] Recipient <user> @ <valiantsolutions.com> (user) Status message: 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [192.210.138.124] blocked using Blocklist 1; To request removal from this list please forward this message to delist@messaging.microsoft.com

Jun 28 12:38:47 mail citserver[2055]: Context: [598]SRV[SMTP_Send] Session ended.

 

Jun 28 12:38:47 mail citserver[2055]: Context: [598]SRV[SMTP_Send] Session ended.

 

 

 

Since there is no 5xx error, is there anyway that I may be notified that the message was not sent?

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 24 2013 07:22:23 EDT from assand @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

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Wed Jul 24 2013 02:23:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Tue Jul 23 2013 18:44:44 EDT from assand @ Uncensored Subject: Using Citadel and Pushover App

Hey everybody!

I tried to use the citadel notification api in cominbation with the Pushover-App for iOS.

I wrote my own php-script and saved it to a public (apache-place) on the same server. I used in the Administration:

'http://mydomain.tld/push.php' and I've set my users configuration to 'Use Custom Notification (...) by Admin'

If I send now an eMail to my account nothing happens, but when I trigger the Page bymyself in the browser, it works fine.

 

Any reasons or must it be a batch/python/whatever-script?

 

Thanks everybody



last time I've tried it I used this config setting:

:http://citadel.org/test.php?user=^notifyuser&syncs=^syncsource&msgid=^msgid&msgnum=^msgnum

note the : in front of everything? you can put a filename in there if you want to post it. Same cheap tokens are used in there.

it should send you an aide message if it fails to send the notification.



Now I've changed my external pager tool to ':http://citadel.org/push.php?auser=^notifyuser&asyncs=^syncsource&amsgid=^msgid&amsgnum=^msgnum'

Nothing happens, again. Where should I find the aide-message? And in which folder must the file be? Or does it work the same way: work /home/push.sh ?

 

Thanks for your help so far.



[#] Wed Jul 24 2013 10:27:20 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

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Wed Jul 24 2013 07:22:23 EDT from assand @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Wed Jul 24 2013 02:23:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Tue Jul 23 2013 18:44:44 EDT from assand @ Uncensored Subject: Using Citadel and Pushover App

Hey everybody!

I tried to use the citadel notification api in cominbation with the Pushover-App for iOS.

I wrote my own php-script and saved it to a public (apache-place) on the same server. I used in the Administration:

'http://mydomain.tld/push.php' and I've set my users configuration to 'Use Custom Notification (...) by Admin'

If I send now an eMail to my account nothing happens, but when I trigger the Page bymyself in the browser, it works fine.

 

Any reasons or must it be a batch/python/whatever-script?

 

Thanks everybody



last time I've tried it I used this config setting:

:http://citadel.org/test.php?user=^notifyuser&syncs=^syncsource&msgid=^msgid&msgnum=^msgnum

note the : in front of everything? you can put a filename in there if you want to post it. Same cheap tokens are used in there.

it should send you an aide message if it fails to send the notification.



Now I've changed my external pager tool to ':http://citadel.org/push.php?auser=^notifyuser&asyncs=^syncsource&amsgid=^msgid&amsgnum=^msgnum'

Nothing happens, again. Where should I find the aide-message? And in which folder must the file be? Or does it work the same way: work /home/push.sh ?

 

Thanks for your help so far.

the aide room has the error messages.

If not, you should see some requests in your webservers request log.

In doubt, you should use an IP instead of a hostname.



[#] Wed Jul 24 2013 11:14:15 EDT from assand @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

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Wed Jul 24 2013 10:27:20 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Wed Jul 24 2013 07:22:23 EDT from assand @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Wed Jul 24 2013 02:23:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Using Citadel and Pushover App

 

Tue Jul 23 2013 18:44:44 EDT from assand @ Uncensored Subject: Using Citadel and Pushover App

Hey everybody!

I tried to use the citadel notification api in cominbation with the Pushover-App for iOS.

I wrote my own php-script and saved it to a public (apache-place) on the same server. I used in the Administration:

'http://mydomain.tld/push.php' and I've set my users configuration to 'Use Custom Notification (...) by Admin'

If I send now an eMail to my account nothing happens, but when I trigger the Page bymyself in the browser, it works fine.

 

Any reasons or must it be a batch/python/whatever-script?

 

Thanks everybody



last time I've tried it I used this config setting:

:http://citadel.org/test.php?user=^notifyuser&syncs=^syncsource&msgid=^msgid&msgnum=^msgnum

note the : in front of everything? you can put a filename in there if you want to post it. Same cheap tokens are used in there.

it should send you an aide message if it fails to send the notification.



Now I've changed my external pager tool to ':http://citadel.org/push.php?auser=^notifyuser&asyncs=^syncsource&amsgid=^msgid&amsgnum=^msgnum'

Nothing happens, again. Where should I find the aide-message? And in which folder must the file be? Or does it work the same way: work /home/push.sh ?

 

Thanks for your help so far.

the aide room has the error messages.

If not, you should see some requests in your webservers request log.

In doubt, you should use an IP instead of a hostname.



I changed it to ':http://127.0.0.1/push.php?auser=^notifyuser&asyncs=^syncsource&amsgid=^msgid&amsgnum=^msgnum'


The aide-room gives no information. Only 'The global system configuration has been edited by admin.'

I really start to become desperate of this :/



[#] Wed Jul 24 2013 17:56:23 EDT from alexgro @ Uncensored

Subject: "Edit side-wide configuration" shows error PAge connection has been rs

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I just installed Citadel and wanted to configure the system. For some reason I am unable to open the 'site wide configuration' page. Anyone who could point me in the right direction?



[#] Thu Jul 25 2013 02:33:40 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: "Edit side-wide configuration" shows error PAge connection has been rs

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Wed Jul 24 2013 17:56:23 EDT from alexgro @ Uncensored Subject: "Edit side-wide configuration" shows error PAge connection has been rs

I just installed Citadel and wanted to configure the system. For some reason I am unable to open the 'site wide configuration' page. Anyone who could point me in the right direction?



try re-running setup and re-specify the user which is to become aide.

if you're using debian, try

dpkg-reconfigure citadel-server

 



[#] Thu Jul 25 2013 05:04:14 EDT from alexgro @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: "Edit side-wide configuration" shows error PAge connection has been rs

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Thanks for the advise. Will try it right away.



[#] Thu Jul 25 2013 13:19:10 EDT from schaap23 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

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I logged in as the admin. Checked the global address book (via show all rooms -> global address book) and saw that each user had at least 3 entries. So each user had multiple vcards.

It seems like each time when you edit someones global address book entry as an admin, a new vcard is made for that user when you click on save.
Having to many vcards for each user apparently overloads citadel when it has to resolve a user to an email address.
Removing all the vcards in the global address book room, resolved my issue.
Emails are properly mapped to a user again and arrive in the correct mailbox.

Tue Jul 23 2013 17:06:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

 

Tue Jul 23 2013 15:29:15 EDT from schaap23 @ Uncensored Subject: cannot receive email 550 Invalid recipient:

I cannot receive email anymore.

 

when I send an email to my citadel server I get the following error:

 

Technical details of permanent failure:

Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the relay smtp.domainname.nl by smtp.domainnamer.nl. [x.x.x.x].


The error that the other server returned was:
550 Invalid recipient: schaap23@domainname.nl
 
 
I dont understand this. Since the user exists on citadel!
How can the recipient be invalid when it actually exists?


try

sendcommand qdir schaap23@domainname.nl

to see what it returns.

try editing your personal vcard (or simply saving it again)



 



[#] Fri Jul 26 2013 13:18:58 EDT from curry @ Uncensored

Subject: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Hello,

thank you for this nice piece of software.

I just installed Citadel-Suite 8.14 on Raspberry PI and everything seems to work but:

Is it intended that normal users (e.g. network users) cant create new messages/post to a private room (invite only, using webcit)?
They are of course invited into that room and the room itself is not readonly.

When i click on "enter a message" it just happens nothing (tested with opera and firefox).

It only works if the user is set as room aide. 



[#] Sat Jul 27 2013 12:01:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi. This is an unexpected twist to our story. I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this!

[#] Sat Jul 27 2013 14:32:44 EDT from mxhess @ Uncensored

Subject: wishlist item

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I do have one wishlist item for citadel... replication of all data within citadel between citadel sites. I would love to be able to setup multiple geographically redundant systems and a load balanacer and have all data available at all sites.



[#] Sun Jul 28 2013 01:15:26 EDT from curry @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user

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Sat Jul 27 2013 12:01:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: not able to enter a message (private room) as an invited network user
Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi. This is an unexpected twist to our story. I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this!

sarcasm?

from a good source: "For a simple BBS, 256 MB of memory might be just fine."



[#] Sun Jul 28 2013 14:49:42 EDT from billsmith @ Uncensored

Subject: Latest versions/source?

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?Wow, it does seem that a lot of people are installing Citadel on Raspberry Pi.  This is an unexpected twist to our story.  I guess Citadel's small resource footprint is to be credited for this"

Indeed!  Great software, and ideal for an emergency-response application server in a battery-operated wi-fi mesh network. 

Where can the latest version (or source) be downloaded?  Version 8.17 reportedly fixes data entry/prompting problems with cellphones, but the

raspberry pi repository supports 8.14.   The Citadel website (running v8.13?) only contains a URL stub for source.

 

My attempt to reply from an email subscription generated the response that the mail server bounced the post with the message "not a member of the group."

Or, most recently, "550 This mailing list only accepts posts from subscribers."

Bill



[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 16:05:30 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: 502 Bad Gateway

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Hi,

I'm running nginx and Citadel on Linux 13.04 Server Edition. The mail server part works, but I can not get to Webcit. When I enter the URL I get 

502 Bad Gateway

What could the problem be? I have googled it and it has been asked in this forum, but it was back in June of 2012 and I am not able to go that far back to find the post.

 



[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 16:07:07 EDT from snakefisher @ Uncensored

Subject: Funambol connector? Push alternatives?

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I'm new to Citadel and new to servers and mail servers in particular.  Over the past few weeks, I've successfully set up my Citadel email server and have migrated my personal domain over and its running quite well.  While I've been proud of how fast this old man has picked up on all of this, I'm now humbled as I can't figure out how to get citadel to work with my mobile phone (I have a Windows Phone 8 device).  In my reading, I've found numerous references to the Funambol connector and Funambol sync server.  However, when I click on the link in the FAQ, it is no longer valid.  I opened the Google cache version of the page and found the following:  "As of 2012, the Citadel email connector is unsupported due to the lack of client and server support for newer smartphones and Funambol releases."

 

Is there now an alternative to Funambol for accessing imap email from a mobile device?  What are others doing?  Am I missing something?

 

I greatly appreciate any help that you can provide.

 

Thanks! 


 




[#] Tue Jul 30 2013 17:52:31 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored

Subject: Remove all login options except native

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Hi,

How do I remove all login options except for the Citadel native one? We do not want users to use any other login than the native Citadel one, but if the options are there users will try and ultimately ask about it.



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 00:07:36 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored

Subject: switched public domains

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 /var/log shows thousands of

Jul 29 22:52:21 mail citserver[2539]: CC[0]failed to open /var/spool/citadel/network/spoolout// for reading due to Is a directory; skipping.

 

I would assume this is happening because of the extra forward slash.

 

Is there anyway to "blank" all the mail rules and set them back to default?  Switching domains apparently left some old messages as it tries to send out from the old domain.

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 01:12:06 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 502 Bad Gateway

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I believe webcit uses apache.  You may have to do header forwarding to direct it to the right location.



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:40:06 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 502 Bad Gateway

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Tue Jul 30 2013 16:05:30 EDT from cdysthe @ Uncensored Subject: 502 Bad Gateway

Hi,

I'm running nginx and Citadel on Linux 13.04 Server Edition. The mail server part works, but I can not get to Webcit. When I enter the URL I get 

502 Bad Gateway

What could the problem be? I have googled it and it has been asked in this forum, but it was back in June of 2012 and I am not able to go that far back to find the post.

 



it means that nginx can't reach webcit where you configured it to.

have a look at:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:apacheproxy

and

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking



[#] Wed Jul 31 2013 04:42:24 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: switched public domains

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Wed Jul 31 2013 00:07:36 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored Subject: switched public domains

 /var/log shows thousands of

Jul 29 22:52:21 mail citserver[2539]: CC[0]failed to open /var/spool/citadel/network/spoolout// for reading due to Is a directory; skipping.

I would assume this is happening because of the extra forward slash.

Is there anyway to "blank" all the mail rules and set them back to default?  Switching domains apparently left some old messages as it tries to send out from the old domain.

hm, generaly you shouldn't get those if you don't use citadel networking or maybe list digest subscribers.

are you using the .debs? or .rpms? which host os? which version?



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