Yep, restarting Webcit did the trick.  It is now current with the citiadel.

The purge is not working for me. In "Aide" appears one message saying that say "105 messages were delete" but really they are not.

I monitored the server and appear many temporary files in data directory until no disk space (of 16GBytes). Stay some time like that and return to 16Gbytes free space. But the emails that must been deleted remained. Two days like that.

Sun May 17 2026 04:39:11 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

This works really good for me. I have different purge rules for different folders. The purge will done with

 

 

 

Will done on Auto-Purge Job. 

 

 

My Citadel Version is 1022 now for a long time. 

 

If you want know more about my settings, let me know. 

Greeintngs

Mike

 

So Mai 17 2026 04:03:52 EDT von luisgo Betreff: Re: Size of Data Files.

I think you are providing a semi-featured Citadel. The purge is not working. It supposed to purge the messages from 1st of February and it is not doing.

 

 

 

Mon May 11 2026 10:56:43 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

You can define a purge rule for every folder. Also a rule to move it to archive. 

 

So Mai 10 2026 04:53:26 EDT von luisgo Betreff: Re: Size of Data Files.

I want to shrink by purging the older emails previous deleted manually. I has the Auto-Purge setting.

I suppose that I can not do it configuring "Default message expire policy for private mailboxes". Or can I? I suppose that is to delete and purge active messages.

Seldom times appear notifications of purged messages at Aide and if so only one purged message or EEDI (??)

Mon May 04 2026 19:25:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

 

Are there some way to shrink the size of the main citadel data file without compromizing the citadel stability?

Do you have the auto-purger configured to delete "old" messages?

You can do this at the site-wide level, or on an individual room (such as your trash folder).

If new data is arriving at approximately the same rate old data is expiring, then yes, eventually you will reach an equilibrium where the database files stabilize in size.

Do look in the Aide room for messages confirming this.  The helpful Citadel Aide will tell you how many objects are being deleted during the nightly purger run.

 

 

 

 

I upgraded my VPS plan. Now it is working Ok. I think that it was mainly the passing of 2 cores to 4 cores that fixed the problem. 3GBytes RAM->4 GBytes. +25GBytes of Disk. 

sáb mai 23 2026 23:37:03 EDT de luisgo Assunto: Re: Size of Data Files.

The purge is not working for me. In "Aide" appears one message saying that say "105 messages were delete" but really they are not.

I monitored the server and appear many temporary files in data directory until no disk space (of 16GBytes). Stay some time like that and return to 16Gbytes free space. But the emails that must been deleted remained. Two days like that.

 

 

Sun May 17 2026 04:39:11 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

This works really good for me. I have different purge rules for different folders. The purge will done with

 

 

 

Will done on Auto-Purge Job. 

 

 

My Citadel Version is 1022 now for a long time. 

 

If you want know more about my settings, let me know. 

Greeintngs

Mike

 

So Mai 17 2026 04:03:52 EDT von luisgo Betreff: Re: Size of Data Files.

I think you are providing a semi-featured Citadel. The purge is not working. It supposed to purge the messages from 1st of February and it is not doing.

 

 

 

Mon May 11 2026 10:56:43 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

You can define a purge rule for every folder. Also a rule to move it to archive. 

 

So Mai 10 2026 04:53:26 EDT von luisgo Betreff: Re: Size of Data Files.

I want to shrink by purging the older emails previous deleted manually. I has the Auto-Purge setting.

I suppose that I can not do it configuring "Default message expire policy for private mailboxes". Or can I? I suppose that is to delete and purge active messages.

Seldom times appear notifications of purged messages at Aide and if so only one purged message or EEDI (??)

Mon May 04 2026 19:25:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Size of Data Files.

 

Are there some way to shrink the size of the main citadel data file without compromizing the citadel stability?

Do you have the auto-purger configured to delete "old" messages?

You can do this at the site-wide level, or on an individual room (such as your trash folder).

If new data is arriving at approximately the same rate old data is expiring, then yes, eventually you will reach an equilibrium where the database files stabilize in size.

Do look in the Aide room for messages confirming this.  The helpful Citadel Aide will tell you how many objects are being deleted during the nightly purger run.

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,

I am unable to upgrade to the latest version of citadel

error:

Testing for OpenSSL...

Testing for iconv...

iconv.h is present and requires no additional libraries

Testing for lresolv...

Testing for lintl...

Testing for lcrypt...

Testing for Berkeley DB...

Berkeley DB v18.0 or newer not found

Testing for LMDB...

LMDB not found

ERROR: No compatible database backend (Berkeley DB >= 18 or LMDB) was found.

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.

Hi,

Citadel is installed on debian bullseye (v-server)

extract from log:

...

Built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>

MAKE is /usr/bin/gmake

 Downloading Berkeley DB... 

 Installing Berkeley DB... 

checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

...

...

full log is attached to previous post

Hi and thx for your answer,

I don't like docker, seems time for a reinstallation with aktual debian has come

PS: last upgrade to version: 17792232 has run without any problems

regards robert

I upgraded the server to debian bookworm and that did the trick, latest version of citadel is up an running

thx a lot

regards robert

I'm using docker via calima on MacBook Pro M1. Works fine on the initial run but not working after stopping and starting.

Did the following.

mkdir /usr/local/citadel

docker run -d --restart=unless-stopped --network host --volume=/usr/local/citadel:/citadel-data --name=citadel citadeldotorg/citadel

# Stopped citadel

docker stop citadel

# Start citadel

docker start citadel

# Result when trying to connect from browser

This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.

Read More...

Am I stopping and starting Citadel wrong?

Does Citadel have a search function?

Solved the issue by using OrbStack instead of Colima

ShinyToaster

Neither did i, looked it up, seems like a alternative to 'docker desktop' for OSX devices. 

Sun Jun 28 2026 14:17:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: How to stop and start Citadel in docker

I'm glad you figured it out because I have no idea what any of those things are. :)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

Thank you,

  --ftest

XMPP Clients will work with Citadel, but not in SSL and I don't recommend to use it. XMPP Service is not federated, its stand alone. Its better to install a free XMPP Server or Service without Citadel. 

Greetings

Mike

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

OpenFire is pretty easy to setup, and is federated.  I know citadel will become federated someday, but unsure about xmpp federation, may just be mastodon style instead.  

I recommend Prosody as XMPP Server.

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

Tue Jul 07 2026 18:34:32 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

XMPP Clients will work with Citadel, but not in SSL and I don't recommend to use it. XMPP Service is not federated, its stand alone. Its better to install a free XMPP Server or Service without Citadel. 

Greetings

Mike

 

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

 

Ah well. I appreciate the answer none the less.