Not that it matters, and i know you cant support incoming via a TOR out-port since its out of your control, but just to add after some testing and paying better attention:

Logging in seems to work 99% of the time. But sometimes i get a 'not found' which i guess does happen sometimes.  Posting, when it does not work, i finally saw the message today relating to not posting an empty post.  Been taking a copy of the post first, so i can easily redo easily if it bombs. Seems like on the 3rd try it works. 

I know its my problem not yours, but still be neat if you added a TOR proxy to go along with the I2P proxy. ( since i have never had any luck getting to the outside via I2P, tho i read its possible, somehow )

Regular VPNs work fine.  There are a lot of cheap ones, and some free ones too.  Might be enough for you to hide behind? ( not slamming.. just donno how far you have to hide..)

Without it, its not like things are unusable,  just it would speed access up a little and prevent me from having to re-post when it gets eaten. Just me, not worth effort really, but it might increase traffic too. I'm sure  i am not the only person hiding inside the onion... 

Thu Jan 22 2026 23:40:03 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

If I put Uncensored on a .onion proxy, would that be beneficial to you?

I'm insolent. I can use the onion... I understand it - but I want them to know - and I want to know they know, but don't really care, as long as I stay in my lane. It is a lot of extra effort to use TOR, just to make them MORE interested in what you may or may not be doing. 

I am a "security through opacity" kind of guy. If they can see it - without TOR and VPNs - they don't care. If I start making it difficult to track and watch - then they might pay more attention and something they would otherwise miss - might be caught. 

For things like this, 'reaching out' TOR is brain dead easy.  Just fire up the TOR browser. Done.  ( sure there are other ways, but why futz with it? )   For incoming, its not really hard either, but does limit your audience greatly if its the ONLY route in since fewer people will know about you.

And some of us, well, we have our reasons for doing it.

Sat Jan 24 2026 06:19:22 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

I'm insolent. I can use the onion... I understand it - but I want them to know - and I want to know they know, but don't really care, as long as I stay in my lane. It is a lot of extra effort to use TOR, just to make them MORE interested in what you may or may not be doing. 

I am a "security through opacity" kind of guy. If they can see it - without TOR and VPNs - they don't care. If I start making it difficult to track and watch - then they might pay more attention and something they would otherwise miss - might be caught. 

 

Hi Ignatius,

do you habe a quick hint for me, how to redirect the webcit http service to https ?

webcit -x1 -p 80 -g ? 

Also i have question to your http to telnet webservice. What Tool are you using ?

Citadel is now fully stable running for 1 year. It was the best dession for all my needs :)

o/

Mike

Do Mai 01 2025 09:26:51 UTC von Motobike Betreff: Re: First Room

Hi Ignatius,

but where will it be defined ? First start citadel, it will defined in a config that starts webcit with parameters X. 

 

Do Feb 13 2025 23:38:47 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: First Room

What you mean with [other options] ?

WebCit is normally called with options to specify the port number it's listening on, whether to enable HTTPS, and the directory where Citadel Server can be found.

For example, here are the commands we are using to start WebCit here:

webcit -x1 -s -p 443 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data
webcit -x1 -p 80 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data

(Most sites will have two, one for HTTP and one for HTTPS, but if you have Citadel sitting behind a proxy or if you have some other webserver redirecting HTTP to HTTPS you might only have one.)

 

My solution is this:

[Unit]

Description=Citadel WebCit HTTP Redirect

After=citadel.target

[Service]

ExecStart=/usr/local/webcit/webcit \

    -p80 \

    -R https://%H \

    uds /usr/local/citadel

KillMode=process

Restart=always

RestartSec=3

[Install]

WantedBy=multi-user.target

Di Jan 27 2026 20:04:40 UTC von Motobike Betreff: Re: First Room

Hi Ignatius,

do you habe a quick hint for me, how to redirect the webcit http service to https ?

webcit -x1 -p 80 -g ? 

Also i have question to your http to telnet webservice. What Tool are you using ?

 

Citadel is now fully stable running for 1 year. It was the best dession for all my needs :)

o/

Mike

Do Mai 01 2025 09:26:51 UTC von Motobike Betreff: Re: First Room

Hi Ignatius,

but where will it be defined ? First start citadel, it will defined in a config that starts webcit with parameters X. 

 

Do Feb 13 2025 23:38:47 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: First Room

What you mean with [other options] ?

WebCit is normally called with options to specify the port number it's listening on, whether to enable HTTPS, and the directory where Citadel Server can be found.

For example, here are the commands we are using to start WebCit here:

webcit -x1 -s -p 443 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data
webcit -x1 -p 80 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data

(Most sites will have two, one for HTTP and one for HTTPS, but if you have Citadel sitting behind a proxy or if you have some other webserver redirecting HTTP to HTTPS you might only have one.)

 

 

Hi,

User harry could not reply to an email and was shown this message: 

You do not have permission to send Internet mail.

Please let me send email.

Cheers,

Harry

Dear team,

We had been running Citadel since 2008 and now preparing a new Citadel server to replace the old one because of the age and capacity.

We setup and configurared a new VM for Citadel, copied most of the running settings to it, and it works well internally, however it just not responsing to external messages.

That is, it successfully send messages, but not receiving any from outside.

Confirm all necessary ports are opened.

Running MX tool SMTP check on internet shows the server is not responding.

However if we telnet the server IP address, it responses.  

May I ask whether there are missing configuration we needed?

Alan Lau

Hi Alan,

Harry received an email from the internet but did not have permission to send a reply. Who can give me permission? What port numbes are is used for Citadel emails in and out?

Thanks for your help.

Harry

Dear team,

We had been running Citadel since 2008 and now preparing a new Citadel server to replace the old one because of the age and capacity.

We setup and configurared a new VM for Citadel, copied most of the running settings to it, and it works well internally, however it just not responsing to external messages.

That is, it successfully send messages, but not receiving any from outside.

Confirm all necessary ports are opened.

Running MX tool SMTP check on internet shows the server is not responding.

However if we telnet the server IP address, it responses.  

May I ask whether there are missing configuration we needed?

Alan Lau

Harry are you asking me about your question?

As long as you described, it looks like your account in Citadel was created with "Permission to send internet mail" option checked.

If you are not your Citadel administrator, you will need to found him to open that option for you.

Just my 2 cents

Alan

Tue Mar 17 2026 08:51:47 AM UTC from alanlau Subject: Re: Received not sent

Harry are you asking me about your question?

As long as you described, it looks like your account in Citadel was created with "Permission to send internet mail" option checked.

If you are not your Citadel administrator, you will need to found him to open that option for you.

Just my 2 cents

Alan

Sorry I mean "not checked" instead of "checked"

Thanks Alan for the help.

Harry

Tue Mar 17 2026 08:53:54 UTC from alanlau Subject: Re: Received not sent

 

Tue Mar 17 2026 08:51:47 AM UTC from alanlau Subject: Re: Received not sent

Harry are you asking me about your question?

As long as you described, it looks like your account in Citadel was created with "Permission to send internet mail" option checked.

If you are not your Citadel administrator, you will need to found him to open that option for you.

Just my 2 cents

Alan

Sorry I mean "not checked" instead of "checked"

Tue Mar 17 2026 08:51:47 AM UTC from alanlau Subject: Re: Received not sent

Harry are you asking me about your question?

As long as you described, it looks like your account in Citadel was created with "Permission to send internet mail" option checked.

If you are not your Citadel administrator, you will need to found him to open that option for you.

Just my 2 cents

Alan

Sorry I mean "not checked" instead of "checked"

Hi, 

you checked the DNS for a A Record and a AAAA Record ?

Some ISP will use AAAA only.

If you can telnet the port 25, it looks fine. Also you can check with mxtoolbox.

Greetings

Mike

Di Mär 17 2026 02:43:59 UTC von alanlau Betreff: New Citadel Installation not receiving mail nor response to external SMTP check

Dear team,

We had been running Citadel since 2008 and now preparing a new Citadel server to replace the old one because of the age and capacity.

We setup and configurared a new VM for Citadel, copied most of the running settings to it, and it works well internally, however it just not responsing to external messages.

That is, it successfully send messages, but not receiving any from outside.

Confirm all necessary ports are opened.

Running MX tool SMTP check on internet shows the server is not responding.

However if we telnet the server IP address, it responses.  

May I ask whether there are missing configuration we needed?

Alan Lau

 

Hi Mike,

I used to run the mentioned MX test by MXTOOLBOX and having the result of server not responding.

All DNS records were not changed as with the existing old Citadel server.  Everything works fine on old one, but just not the case if I directly replace a new Citadel with it.

I install and tested the new server on both Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04, as I wonder it is the OS lead to not responding instead of Citadel.

Any idea on it?

Yeah,

i know the Problem. I got such problem with Ubuntu too. I think, the UFW is turned off. I fixed the incoming MTA and use Postfix -> rspamD -> SMTP Citadel 2025. For more compatibility, try a normal Debian installation for a Citadel only installation. 

Oherwise check what the logs say..

tail -f /var/log/syslog 

and trace it to a file to analyse whats going on. 

Mike

Mo Mär 23 2026 02:32:44 UTC von alanlau Betreff: Re: New Citadel Installation not receiving mail nor response to external SMTP check

Hi Mike,

I used to run the mentioned MX test by MXTOOLBOX and having the result of server not responding.

All DNS records were not changed as with the existing old Citadel server.  Everything works fine on old one, but just not the case if I directly replace a new Citadel with it.

I install and tested the new server on both Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04, as I wonder it is the OS lead to not responding instead of Citadel.

Any idea on it?

Thanks for suggestion, and it confirmed one of my suspicion: its the OS broke it instead of Citadel  ;>

Since I'm not too familier on Debian I may need some time to test this configuration and will come up again once I am able to test it.

Mon Mar 23 2026 08:10:30 AM UTC from Motobike Subject: Re: New Citadel Installation not receiving mail nor response to external SMTP check

Yeah,

i know the Problem. I got such problem with Ubuntu too. I think, the UFW is turned off. I fixed the incoming MTA and use Postfix -> rspamD -> SMTP Citadel 2025. For more compatibility, try a normal Debian installation for a Citadel only installation. 

Oherwise check what the logs say..

tail -f /var/log/syslog 

and trace it to a file to analyse whats going on. 

 

Mike

 

Mo Mär 23 2026 02:32:44 UTC von alanlau Betreff: Re: New Citadel Installation not receiving mail nor response to external SMTP check

Hi Mike,

I used to run the mentioned MX test by MXTOOLBOX and having the result of server not responding.

All DNS records were not changed as with the existing old Citadel server.  Everything works fine on old one, but just not the case if I directly replace a new Citadel with it.

I install and tested the new server on both Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04, as I wonder it is the OS lead to not responding instead of Citadel.

Any idea on it?